MorisUkunRasik
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I'd rather have Nate full time over Pringles. The decision is still mind boggling to me.
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2012-13 Oct/Nov NBA Season |OT| Mavericks Attempt To Defend Title
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I'd rather have Nate full time over Pringles. The decision is still mind boggling to me.
shira
Member
Who has the butterfly crown tatto?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Maybe KD depending on the lineup
Black Mamba
Member
Didn't you do the same with Pryzbilla?
Fuck that. nate plays the slowest pace in the league.
LegendofJoe
Member
His shot selection would probably be better if he wasn't competing with Crawford for playing time. I've been impressed with what he's done so far. I can't wait to see him and Wall on the court together. I hope I'll get to see it when you play us at the end of December in DC because I've got tickets to that game.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Nate plays what he thinks is best for his roster.
His Ray Allen, Brent Barry, Lewis team were not slow at all
Future PhaZe
Member
Mamba you're a nice kid but Kobes been living off of reputation for a few years now.
I mean I'd go as far as to say he's the worst perimeter defender in the league if he wasn't capable of turning it on when he really wants to.
Seriously, the shit this guy gets away with makes me blush sometimes. Flat out not guarding capable shooters, crashing the boards and leaving his man before the guy with the ball has even shot the ball, funneling players into help that isn't there and then screaming at them like it was their fault...list goes on.
He's a great player but it's part of what he has to do these days to keep his numbers up given his minutes/seasons played.
Which is why he's awful on D 95% of the time.
Other guys he likes to try hard against -- Paul and Westbrook for example after they inevitably carve up whatever Lakers point guard is playing at the time. Loves to duke it out against Pierce as well when Metta gets exposed.
I mean I'd go as far as to say he's the worst perimeter defender in the league if he wasn't capable of turning it on when he really wants to.
Seriously, the shit this guy gets away with makes me blush sometimes. Flat out not guarding capable shooters, crashing the boards and leaving his man before the guy with the ball has even shot the ball, funneling players into help that isn't there and then screaming at them like it was their fault...list goes on.
He's a great player but it's part of what he has to do these days to keep his numbers up given his minutes/seasons played.
Which is why he's awful on D 95% of the time.
Other guys he likes to try hard against -- Paul and Westbrook for example after they inevitably carve up whatever Lakers point guard is playing at the time. Loves to duke it out against Pierce as well when Metta gets exposed.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Okay, I will admit that Kobe is a better defender than Kevin Martin. Whatever.
I'm sorry to distract the posting from the fact that the Lakers passed up on Phil Jackson for Pringles or that the Spurs are going to score 120 tomorrow since those are more interesting topics.
I'm sorry to distract the posting from the fact that the Lakers passed up on Phil Jackson for Pringles or that the Spurs are going to score 120 tomorrow since those are more interesting topics.
Conflict NZ
Member
Just caught up on ESPN and they reported:
Looking at that makes this choice seem super bizarre, why did they not at least wait until the meeting today?
I don't think the Lakers make it out of the second round with Pringles and if they don't make it out of the second round I doubt Howard will resign on a team that will be even older. Could have just fucked the Lakers future with this choice.
- Phil Jackson did not ask for travel restrictions or team ownership, he did ask for personal decisions.
- Phil was told the job was his by the Lakers' FO,
- Phil had his agent fly in on the redeye last night and was fully intent on signing a deal today
- He wasn't going to press hard on the power issue and was going to sign regardless of whether he got those demands or not.
Looking at that makes this choice seem super bizarre, why did they not at least wait until the meeting today?
I don't think the Lakers make it out of the second round with Pringles and if they don't make it out of the second round I doubt Howard will resign on a team that will be even older. Could have just fucked the Lakers future with this choice.
Future PhaZe
Member
His shot selection isn't the problem. It's that it's almost TOO good, and when you don't have creators on the floor or you have guys taking dumb shots you're almost never going to find a good shot. As a result there are a large parts of the game where he's invisible.
Awesome, I'll probably go to that one also, MKG is my dude.
shira
Member
He's going to have so much more leverage if Pring fails
Black Mamba
Member
As I wrote, Woj refutes this as do some laker reporters I heard. Woj is saying both sides have agreed to pretend that the Lakers imply chose Mike D over Phil.
I'll trust those like Woj and whose job is to follow the lakers daily over ESPN right now.
I don't want to believe the Lakers passed on Phil if he was willing to simply coach without restrictions on travel.
It will be too late for him to return by then.
Don't need reputation when I watch him every night. I routinely complain about him being lazy on here. If you think he's a terrible defender compared to the rest of the wings, sigh.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
The Lakers roster isn't exactly quick or athletic.
Liquidsnake
Banned
See what I mean?
Dude please.
Wow. Just wow. You must be 18 or something.
This is where I bow out. You guys are just too much. I don't have the energy to revisit everything Kobe has done for the last 17 years that you would all like to erase.
Im out.
Red Blaster
Member
There are different degrees of shit defense
Kobe is a better defender than Kevin Martin
he's still trash on D
Kobe is a better defender than Kevin Martin
he's still trash on D
Ninja Scooter
Member
The Howard thing is a non-issue to me. I'll believe a player in his prime turns down $25 million when it happens.
The rest of the stuff, yeah it's bizarre because he likely was asking for a lot of that stuff. Now that it's happened you are probably going to see a lot of truth smearing from both sides. If Phil really was asking for a ton of power and future ownership stake I can't blame the Buss family for saying no, especially in this current state. This is why they should have fired Brown after last season, or just rolled with Bickerstaff the rest of this one. You need a full offseason to make these kinds of decisions, whether you decide on Phil or D'Antoni or anyone else.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
imagine when Dr. buss croaks.
thats when the real circus begins.
thats when the real circus begins.
lmao
what about that is wrong? he takes most of the game off on d - if he even bothers on the defensive end at all
i don't understand the takemyballandgohome mentality whenever someone says something i dont like. especially when its not even a concrete subject like russell westbrook's 'disability'
shira
Member
They sell the team to overseas investors?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Buss family will probably want to cash out. Maybe that's why they didn't want to give up any ownership stake to Phillip. If the Dodgers are worth $2 billy, how much is 60% of the Lakers?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Dr. Buss is part of the problem let whoever you in charge run it or don't step down
Yeah 12 years ago he was great d so we can't talk about his game now it's common sense
They argue it like all players don't.
The only wing who has been playing both ends is LBJ, and even then, only since he got to the Heat. He took plenty of time off in Cleveland.
Future PhaZe
Member
Damn why are you so salty? Kobe wins chips even while playing shitty D, so it's not like it's the biggest knock on the world against him.
Knux-Future
Banned
I don't see why dudes are catching feelings over soemone saying Kobe isn't as good of a defender as he was when he was younger...
I thought this was common knowledge.
It's really not anything to be mad about.
I thought this was common knowledge.
It's really not anything to be mad about.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
You must be 18
shira
Member
Imagine the day when the league decides he's done and he doesn't get any ref calls anymore.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He was pretty good true
Black Mamba
Member
no one is arguing against this.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Derek Jeter has a lot of gold gloves.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He has intangible gold gloves
Nobody can stand with Chuck Lidell
Don't mess with the jeterian jump throw.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Oh lawd...
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Serge Ibaka almost won Defensive Player of the Year. He must be great.
Knux-Future
Banned
The same defensive teams Chris Paul makes because he steals the ball a lot?
The same defensive team that Iggy only made like once despite shutting dudes down?
Those defensive teams? The same ones that have been popularity contests for a while?
Look Kobe was a gdlk defender in his day but those days are gone, dudes been in the league forever so of course he's not as good anymore...hell he doesn't he try sometimes because he has to conserve energy now.
Like why is this a thing?
The same defensive team that Iggy only made like once despite shutting dudes down?
Those defensive teams? The same ones that have been popularity contests for a while?
Look Kobe was a gdlk defender in his day but those days are gone, dudes been in the league forever so of course he's not as good anymore...hell he doesn't he try sometimes because he has to conserve energy now.
Like why is this a thing?
you could say the same about kobe
lazybones18
Banned
Old?
Old.
Old.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Brown was enshrined in the Basketball Hall of Fame as a coach on September 27, 2002 and is widely considered one of the greatest coaches in basketball history
wiki don't lie.
Avery Johnson has as many titles as Jerry Sloan, he must be a great coach.
shira
Member
Lenny Wilkins is the winningest.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Wasn't that funny the first time aroundOld?
Old.