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ReturnOfTheRAT
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Black Mamba
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Can we stop talking about the offense. Shooting near 50% and 89 points at the beginning of the 4th.
The problem is 100% defense. And has been that way for a while, now.
Phx with over 100 and only 2 TOs and shooting a high % from 3.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
was Kobe really this much of a defensive presence for this team?? I mean jesus
Black Mamba
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It really sucks how the Lakers offense is good now and their defense is complete shit.
At least it's a bit more fun to watch them lose this way.
Pau has 20.
No, he's been part of the problem, too. The entire team has stopped for a month.
At least it's a bit more fun to watch them lose this way.
Pau has 20.
No, he's been part of the problem, too. The entire team has stopped for a month.
1st Team All Defense.
Just having him stand infront of players alone is a defensive asset.
I'm not sure he makes a difference on the 3s but Brown/Redd would have had to guard him too thus reducing their energy for offense. He also gets guys in foul trouble.
We're not talking about the offensive system - just how they look and execute without Kobe's presence. There is a difference.
Black Mamba
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You're telling me taking out one of the all-time great offensive players changes how the offense looks?
I hear water is wet, too. Confirm?
That's a lot too, but I guess someone had to pick up the slack. Seems to have had a good game too.
Black Mamba
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Cuz that's the defensive design. The big is supposed to hedge hard, but the bigs aren't hedging anymore. They're not helping Ramon like they're supposed to do.
122. lmao.
When has that EVER Worked??? Didn't they do the same thing with chris paul? Seriously? I know it's a freaking defensive design....doesn't mean it's any less stupid. Again, why would you leave a big on steve nash?
Dominican Power
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The Insane Dufresne
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Redd, Telfair, & Brown had 60 total points. 60! LMAO!
Lakers deserved to lose this game.
Lakers deserved to lose this game.
Black Mamba
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No and yes, Phil's defensive design was to either talk and switch or go under, with the big positioned in a way to make the guy think about going the other way.
Under Brown, the bigs are supposed to hedge hard, giving a pseudo-double, with hands up to prevent pass until the PG gets back in position, then big runs back (with the other big or SF helping him until then).
But the bigs have completely stopped doing it most of the game. Notice how many times Laker bigs are guarding PGs the last few weeks versus the first 2 months?
The team has made a conscience effort to stop playing defense hard. Whether they're tired or saving themselves, I dunno, but they're not playing with the same mentality. When they had Fisher, he was so bad on offense that they had to play hard every night. Now with Ramon (and even Ron scoring more), they scaled back
At least, I hope they're saving it. Because if they're not, they've fucked in the playoffs.
edit: Memphis has a real shot at the 3 seed now. If that happens, look out.
CoffeeJanitor
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Who is Jason Smith and why did he destroy the Timberwolves?
Then why the fuck are you talking about the offense?
Mamba, this happened all through the playoffs and everytime we play the clippers during this regular season or any other team that has been smart enough to design that play.
Black Mamba
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I'm not? I'm talking about defense.
Guarding CP3 is impossible. What else do you want them to do? if they go over the screen, CP3 has a step and gets in the paint.
It's impossible to play singular defense against anyone with screens in today's NBA. Notice how Ramon has gotten a bunch of layups off a screen and his defender going over it?
Speed does that. You can only really counter that with elite athleticism and length.
That's what they are supposed to do but have never done. I'd rather we leave a guy like gortat open inside the paint where another big can cover him than leave a guy like nash or paul with a big.
EDIT: And it's pretty much what miami does to force turn overs.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Shabazz managed to destroy his team's offense to get a scoring record in a terrible loss for Team USA, what a baller.
Black Mamba
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Yes, that is exactly what Brown's defense is designed to do. But the bigs aren't doing it the last few weeks. They're actively not following the defense, leaving Ramon out to dry.
They're tired or saving their legs. That's what happens when you're relied on for 2 months. Tonight was 8th game in 11 nights, too.
sf2fanatic
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Miss the game.. What was the deal with Kobe sitting?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Shin
sf2fanatic
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Thx...Checked my fantasy league earlier and had no stats for him so I had to ask...TY
Anyway, i already admitted our team is not going anywhere. Atleast metta seems to have gotten out of his slump the past few games. His defence and offense have been equally superb. I'm hoping bynum gets traded next season but not sure who i'd want in return. He doesn't seem like he will ever grow up and that attitude in the playoffs is a recipe for failure.
Just got back from the Hornets/Wolves game. Great game. Jason smith makes some good jumpers, hustle plays to shut this wolves team down. Monty actually let's Gordon play once he knows the wolves want to tank more. I think Jarret and Vasquez should both have a spot on the Andre Miller all underrated pg team. Jack's been putting up good numbers consistently and Vasquez had a great game tonight with 10 assists and i believe 10 pts.
I know our second 1st pick people are saying we should take a chris paul successor but i think were good at pg for a while with those guys. Terrence jones would be a better option for that pick if we get MKG like were most likely to.
New Orleans Arena is actually way bigger than i thought and was probably about 30 to 45% full tonight. Great area outside the arena for a nice jazz band/ different contests to win free stuff. Best part looked to be a season ticket holder beer garden. While i didn't try any food they did look to have a great selection of different seafood and drinks. Also they should really change all the names back, new orleans jazz, Charlotte hornets, and just screw Utah over with the Bobcats. But a lot of jazz bands, one outside before, one inside during warm ups and random one outsides after.
Some nice touches, every time Kama scored they had a Chewbacca sound with a visual of Chewy. Funny moment where JJ tried to flop and the ref just put his hands up like "no bro that don't fly"
I know our second 1st pick people are saying we should take a chris paul successor but i think were good at pg for a while with those guys. Terrence jones would be a better option for that pick if we get MKG like were most likely to.
New Orleans Arena is actually way bigger than i thought and was probably about 30 to 45% full tonight. Great area outside the arena for a nice jazz band/ different contests to win free stuff. Best part looked to be a season ticket holder beer garden. While i didn't try any food they did look to have a great selection of different seafood and drinks. Also they should really change all the names back, new orleans jazz, Charlotte hornets, and just screw Utah over with the Bobcats. But a lot of jazz bands, one outside before, one inside during warm ups and random one outsides after.
Some nice touches, every time Kama scored they had a Chewbacca sound with a visual of Chewy. Funny moment where JJ tried to flop and the ref just put his hands up like "no bro that don't fly"
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Radical idea to improve the Lakers bench:
Bench Pau and Metta. Why?
- Barnes can actually hit wide open 3s while Metta can't and seems to have success when he gets touches around the hoop
- I feel Bynum and Pau just get in each other's way. Why not put Pau with the bench where he's not relegated to a jumpshooter?
- Put Ebanks and Goudelock back in the rotation. Why are we cutting it down to 8 guys when our big 3 play so many minutes?
Lineup would be:
Sessions/Kobe/Barnes/McBob/Bynum
Blake/Ebanks/Ron/Murphy/Pau with Goudelock getting PT
Bench Pau and Metta. Why?
- Barnes can actually hit wide open 3s while Metta can't and seems to have success when he gets touches around the hoop
- I feel Bynum and Pau just get in each other's way. Why not put Pau with the bench where he's not relegated to a jumpshooter?
- Put Ebanks and Goudelock back in the rotation. Why are we cutting it down to 8 guys when our big 3 play so many minutes?
Lineup would be:
Sessions/Kobe/Barnes/McBob/Bynum
Blake/Ebanks/Ron/Murphy/Pau with Goudelock getting PT
Red Blaster
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Just put Kobe on the bench and start Ebank
I'm more of a Blazers fan but i love the Hornets too and currently live in New Orleans.
sf2fanatic
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Looking for a Blake dunk on DMC..Getting physical down in the paint
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Cool, cool.
Dominican Power
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The Nuggets are a joke.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The Warriors finally won a game!
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Boston could easily take down Atlanta.
But Orlando will move back up now with Ryno back so its moot!
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