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2012 NBA Finals |OT| Good Job, Good Effort

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Carlbeego

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jman2050 said:
So what would it take for the Heat to, you know, actually win a game to you guys?
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This is what happens when a close game is decided by some bullshit calls. Teams lose all the time in the playoffs. It just when refs decide to bail players out, like LeBron clearly elbowing the shit out of Harden, it gets annoying.

As time passes no one will give a damn. Hell, Jordan use to get phantom calls all the time. Just didn't have internet forums to speak out about it.
 
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obijkenobi

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Black Mamba said:
Which is why I add the FT fluke to the discussion. Miami shoots 80%, they lose. OKC shoots 75%, they win. Both are still above or below their respective norms. It took one of the best and worst performances of the season at the same time to occur to give the game to Miami. The odds are that happening are so low...
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Each game is its own vibe though. You don't think it's possible that the Thunder are rattled in the first finals or that every so often the Heat will shoot above their average at the line sometimes? Especially since Joel Anthony isn't getting big minutes?
 
Vire

Vire

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I'm not taking anything for granted, we were up 2-1 last year. Doesnt mean shit.

Game 4 is going to be huge.
 
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jman2050

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Carlbeego said:
This is what happens when a close game is decided by some bullshit calls. Teams lose all the time in the playoffs. It just when refs decide to bail players out, like LeBron clearly elbowing the shit out of Harden, it gets annoying.

As time passes no one will give a damn. Hell, Jordan use to get phantom calls all the time. Just didn't have internet forums to speak out about it.
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Ask Utah fans how they feel about Michael Jordan and the refs. :p
 
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Vanillalite

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James Harden played 34:10 in terms of minutes and yet he went 2-10 from the floor and 0-4 from behind the arc. He ended up with only 9 points. If Harden doesn't totally blow then the Durant fouls to make him sit wouldn't have been as big of a deal.
 
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iamshadowlark

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obijkenobi said:
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That's kind of what I'm saying. Refs are shit. You just have to do your best and not give them a chance to affect the course of the game. Sometimes they do and those losses sting, but what can you do? It will always be like that in the NBA.
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I was agreeing. I just find it hilarious how this is being broken down as "flukes" and refs. OKC played pretty fucking bad, so did the Heat.

Whatever though we won.
 
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ThatCrazyGuy

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The Thunder played worse and lost the game. Everything about if this or this or this had happened, it would had been different.

No crap. If things played out different, things would turn out different. Thanks Doc Browns!

FThunder can still take the series if they score more points the next games.
 
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friskykillface

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wonder why Scott left YNB on the bench with Durant during that 3rd quarter stretch, Durant was in foul trouble but he wasn't



i know YNB struggles but the end of the 3rd quarter was horrible with Harden as the main option was awful.
 
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ph33nix

MWO
I think OKC is going to put Thabo on LeBron, YNB on Wade, and Durant on Chalmers to start games. Durant's going to annoy Chalmers and won't have to deal with LeBron, it seemed to work in some stretches in this game.
 
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iamshadowlark

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Brettison said:
James Harden played 34:10 in terms of minutes and yet he went 2-10 from the floor and 0-4 from behind the arc. He ended up with only 9 points. If Harden doesn't totally blow then the Durant fouls to make him sit wouldn't have been as big of a deal.
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Or maybe if durant would stop trying to hold players to prevent them from going around screens to get into foul trouble in the first place. Seriously he was like the only one in foul trouble and three of them were completely avoidable. He won't get shit for it though.
 
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Black Mamba

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obijkenobi said:
Each game is its own vibe though. You don't think it's possible that the Thunder are rattled in the first finals or that every so often the Heat will shoot above their average at the line sometimes? Especially since Joel Anthony isn't getting big minutes?
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No and No. The Thunder aren't rattled. This is just a story for convenience.

They were up 9 and Durant got called for another bad foul and he came out. The game turned. How were they rattled when they were going up 10 in the 2nd half?

As for the FTs, every team shoots above and below their average...that's how they get their average. But the Heat are shooting really above their average for 3 games. The likelihood of this happening is really low. Combine that with OKC shooting way below their average for 3 games, which is rare. Combined at the same time is probably in the 100k:1 zone if not worse.

Look, a 70% FT team will shoot 80% at times. They will have a random game or 2 around 90%. But at the same time as the Thunder shooting 60%. That's extremely flukey.
 
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friskykillface

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finally a gif of the play

dat defense by Spo

but it didn't cause the brick , just funny to see :p


spod.gif
 
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Vanillalite

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iamshadowlark said:
Or maybe if durant would stop trying to hold players to prevent them from going around screens to get into foul trouble in the first place. Seriously he was like the only one in foul trouble and three of them were completely avoidable. He won't get shit for it though.
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I'm just saying that the Thunder could have made this a closer game and even won it if Harden didn't totally blow even beyond the Durant foul problems. Hell even beyond Harden sucking from the field he also made that dumb ass foul late game verses either a quick foul or not fouling at all. Instead the heat run down half the clock then Harden fouls.

SMH...
 
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Epsilon-delta

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Black Mamba said:
No and No. The Thunder aren't rattled. This is just a story for convenience.

They were up 9 and Durant got called for another bad foul and he came out. The game turned. How were they rattled when they were going up 10 in the 2nd half?

As for the FTs, every team shoots above and below their average...that's how they get their average. But the Heat are shooting really above their average for 3 games. The likelihood of this happening is really low. Combine that with OKC shooting way below their average for 3 games, which is rare. Combined at the same time is probably in the 100k:1 zone if not worse.

Look, a 70% FT team will shoot 80% at times. They will have a random game or 2 around 90%. But at the same time as the Thunder shooting 60%. That's extremely flukey.
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It's called The Finals for a reason. It's either you step up your game or let the other team win.

You call it flukey, I call it choking.
 
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Emwitus

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Black Mamba said:
No and No. The Thunder aren't rattled. This is just a story for convenience.

They were up 9 and Durant got called for another bad foul and he came out. The game turned. How were they rattled when they were going up 10 in the 2nd half?

As for the FTs, every team shoots above and below their average...that's how they get their average. But the Heat are shooting really above their average for 3 games. The likelihood of this happening is really low. Combine that with OKC shooting way below their average for 3 games, which is rare. Combined at the same time is probably in the 100k:1 zone if not worse.

Look, a 70% FT team will shoot 80% at times. They will have a random game or 2 around 90%. But at the same time as the Thunder shooting 60%. That's extremely flukey.
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EDIT: lol my bad, your talking about free throws.

surely, the thunder are rattled when they are shooting way below there average on free throws....
 
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Black Mamba

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huacst21 said:
It's called The Finals for a reason. It's either you step up your game or let the other team win.

You call it flukey, I call it choking.
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Except, it's not. Was Miami choking against the Celtics?

FT shooting has been the most consistent and least variable aspect of basketball for 40 years.

But you're going to have flukes. Lakers had one in game 3 vs OKC. And it's why they won. Net 2 games they are around their norm.

Flukes happen. It's just unfortunate it's happening in the Finals with the FT line.
 
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giri

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ToyMachine228 said:
Look at the Heat's shooting numbers. Wade, Bosh, and Chalmers all shot like shit. That's not going to happen again. OKC really missed an opportunity here.
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Uhhh... they've not been shooting well all play offs. And the thunder are a good defensive team.

It will probably be this way for the rest of the series.
 
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jman2050

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ToyMachine228 said:
Look at the Heat's shooting numbers. Wade, Bosh, and Chalmers all shot like shit. That's not going to happen again. OKC really missed an opportunity here.
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Bosh didn't shoot well but he's been a force in other important ways.

You figure Wade has to regress at some point, but this is three games now where he's played like a moron and almost cost his team. It's almost like Lebron and Wade switched places from last year's finals.
 
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Black Mamba

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Emwitus said:
EDIT: lol my bad, your talking about free throws.

surely, the thunder are rattled when they are shooting way below there average on free throws....
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No, it's called math. You're going to have outliers.

Was Horry rattled that one season he went like 1/27 from 3 in the playofffs? No, of course not. It's just probabilities playing out.

Flip a coin enough times, your going to get head 10 times in a row. It's just unfortunate the heat and thunder are fluking in opposite ways at the same time.
 
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