It should really go to Battier at this point.
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2012 NBA Finals |OT| Good Job, Good Effort
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It should really go to Battier at this point.
MorisUkunRasik
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Looks like I chose a good day not to check in
iamshadowlark
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You won't find any heat fan undervaluing bosh.
End of days son, end of days...
CherryWoodFuton
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Damn this thread was almost in the verge of fuck. Don't ban Puddles though please 
Future PhaZe
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I couldn't believe Miami won with their fuckball 2k cheese style last night. Literally almost never fired off a mid-range jumpshot, just threw their bodies in the paint the entire night.
There's no chance the Thunder lose the next game.
There's no chance the Thunder lose the next game.
iamshadowlark
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Good Job. Good effort.
it's hard to understand how Miami won by going for high % shots in the paint?
I'd agree normally, but it's clear Brooks is clueless about who to play and who gives us the best chance to win, and this is the worst I've seen OKC looks since well before the playoffs. Definitely the worst back-to-back performances I've seen all year.
Ibaka only played 22 minutes, and one of the biggest problems OKC has was rim protection. Fisher has been playing far too much, and Collison should be getting Perk's minutes (although Perk had a decent game last night).
And when KD got his 4th foul, it was idiotic to sit YNB to "teach him a lesson," or whatever. We went 5 minutes without our two best scorers on the floor and coughed up a 10-point lead. Not sure if Brooks got the memo or not, but this is the NBA Fucking Finals and you play to win the games.
I think the Thunder "should" win Tuesday, but my expectations are incredibly low at this point.
Not a big fan of Westbrook, but agree with most analysts that Brooks took Westbrook out for no reason. Harden was struggling. Durant was sitting cause of foul trouble (CONSPIRACY!) and you also bench the only other offensive option/weapon you have?
In those 5 min that Westbrook and Durant both sat, the Heat climbed right back.
In those 5 min that Westbrook and Durant both sat, the Heat climbed right back.
iamshadowlark
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I don't want to come of as cocky or whatever(2011 never forget) but the Thunder have to win next game. For obvious reasons.
Outdoor Miner
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I have to say they do appear to be terribly coached. Is Brooks normally this awful? He looks like he's in way over his head.
I agree.
His adjustments played a big role in beating the Spurs, but he has failed to make some obvious adjustments against the Heat IMO, especially in his insistence to play Perkins and Fisher heavy minutes.Outdoor Miner said:
Our go-to lineup against Miami should be:
YNB
Sefolosha
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Can't recall if I've seen that lineup once this series.
iamshadowlark
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He's facing Spo. After going thru COTY and Pop. How hard can it be?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
This made me giggle.
Future PhaZe
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There's a difference between attacking the basket and literally only attacking inside or from 3 the entire game. That's NBA 2k basketball. You shouldn't be able to win basketball games without some degree of an inbetween game due to the predictability of the Heats offense. Especially now in the NBA with zone defenses, the Thunder should have shut down anything on the inside and lived and died by Heat jumpshots.
Brooks never gave a single fuck to adjust.
I was confused by Westbrook getting sat. He was in control most of the game and shot well over 50%. If anything we needed more "why not" rather than the reserved overthinking kid we saw last night.
Damn this thread was almost in the verge of fuck. Don't ban Puddles though please
I haven't even insulted anyone in this thread. My posts have been extremely civil TBH.
iamshadowlark
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Yea when the woman last nite asked LBJ post-game about whats the best strategy to guard him he couldn't do anything but laugh with an expression like "bitch you tell me".
LegendofJoe
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I missed all but the last 4 minutes of the game last night. I was just looking over the stats to try and get a feel for how the game went and I was really shocked at how often the Heat got to the FT line. Was the officiating bad or did the Thunder just not adjust to the Heat attacking the rim?
iamshadowlark
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These are two damning stats for OKC(and of course last game's freethrows). They don't mean much in regards to next games but they have to adjust, which they are perfectly capable of doing.
I just don't think we are out of the water yet.
Blatant, constant trolling tends to get annoying
The Heat were attacking the rim, but there were some phantom calls as well.
Nothing too egregious.
I'm more impressed than anything that the Heat made so many of their FTs. You have to give them credit.
Vire
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The problem with Collison is that he's a foul machine. He get's in foul trouble almost the instant you put him in.
Fisher played pretty well on the offensive end as well, with a four point play and another three... his defense though is suspect.
What I'm more amazed by than anything is the Thunder's inability to hit their foul shots. They usually are on point with that stuff. That really hurt them last night.
iamshadowlark
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Ain't nothin suspect about it. Im pretty sure I could give you 10 on him.
LegendofJoe
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Gotchya, the Heat's shooting streak at the stripe has been impressive. The Thunder on the otherhand, not so much. I'm pretty confident that isn't going to continue happening though. Hopefully, it'll turn around on Tuesday because I want to see a 7 game series.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Brooks awful? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZowK0NAvig
That's fuckin crazy, man.
I think there's more than a resemblance here
Yeah I would say that is the strangest part of this series. Although I'm not sure how to feel----we're so used to seeing the Heat have these terribad stretches at the FT line that it's become the custom. But there was a stretch in the regular season when they were this good too and Wade had hit like 24 straight.
maybe the heat busted out that noah arc machine again
Thunder shot like shit from the free throw line and Durant put himself into foul trouble again (even if the fourth foul was weak). So believe it.
Both teams need to play better. LeBron has gotten it going two games to Durant's one. That's been the difference.
CrazyDogg77
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I still think OKC wins this series. Am I alone here?
Outdoor Miner
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50/50 right now. The only thing certain is this thing is going to 7 games.
The bottom line is that neither team has played that great in games 2 or 3, but the Thunder have played worse than the Heat in both as well.ph33nix said:
I still think OKC will win game 4, but we've left ourselves no margin for error. If LeBron goes HAM like he did in game 6 against Boston and they hit outside shots, it won't matter how well we play and the series will be over.
I'm mainly pissed because we have the tools to convincingly beat Miami, but those tools are not being effectively utilized.
It's one thing if you're simply losing to a superior team, but the main factor in this series is that OKC has completely shit the bed in games 2 and 3.
We're in better shape than we were after the first two games against San Antonio, but that isn't saying much.CrazyDogg77 said:
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I still say Harden totally blew last night, and he quiet possibly cost the game for OKC by himself.
The officiating was bad. Phantom calls against the Thunder, and they allowed Bosh to get away with some "blocks" that had definitely contact.
It's kind of cliche, but I think whoever wins the next game, wins the series.
Either way, I see it going 6.
you're not exactly playing against scrubs. you're playing against a team that was 2 wins from the finals last year. I didn't get to say I felt Miami was the superior team but lost because LeBron shit the bed, I had to take it in the ass and hear this "team this 4th quarter that" shit
they play the best D you've seen all playoffs and have the best all around player. you shouldn't sound so shocked
benjipwns
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I believe the most likely result by simple odds is Heat in six.
Future PhaZe
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Shitting the bed is what the Lakers did against the Thunder when they could have been up 3-1, I wouldn't say the Thunder shit the bed, they just had terrible coaching and an overall bad gameplan.
ToyMachine228
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And Wade was 8-22. I highly doubt these three will combine for such a poor shooting night again this series.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
The Heat were in this exact position last year.
They can't get complacent now. Win one more game at home, and they'll be in great shape.
They can't get complacent now. Win one more game at home, and they'll be in great shape.
I've given Miami a lot of credit, but it's undeniable that OKC has been the victim of some weird flukes in the first three games.
- Battier shooting over 73% from 3
- KD getting 5 fouls called on him 2 games in a row, after it only happening 3 times in the regular season
- Miami shooting far above their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- OKC shooting far below their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- Miami winning in spite of shooting an atrocious percentage from range in game 3
Miami's D has been OK, but I'd mainly say that they've dragged us down into a fuckball style of play and Brooks has utterly failed to put an effective lineup on the floor in games 2 or 3. Watching that horrible 4th quarter last night, it wasn't like, "Wow, Miami's defense is killing it!" It was more like watching two wounded dogs without teeth gnaw each other to death. Just kinda sad.
CoffeeJanitor
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Wade has been bad through the entire playoffs...
iamshadowlark
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Thats usually the product of two great defenses. See MIA vs IND, or BOS, or CHI.
Honestly even with battier's shooting we are still getting around our average contributions from our role players.
The Durant fouls aren't weird to me- he's actually fouling. He's also playing Lebron whose playing extremely aggressively.
1. kind of flukey but almost all of them are wide open shots
2. he's getting stupid fouls and that's all on him. what's the point of reaching at LeBron on a fast break?
3. that's almost all on LeBron and the fluke was how poorly he was shooting FTs before the finals
4. they're shooting below season average but the real issue is how many FTs they're taking. Durant with 6 and 4 in the last 2 games?
5. teams win games with defense and in the paint, don't see why the range matters.