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2012 NBA Finals |OT| Good Job, Good Effort
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iamshadowlark
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A KD/D12 PnR is sexy.
Replace westbrook with harden and you have a good deal....(I know it won't work coz a finances lol )
I'm not gonna panic, because this team is still 3 wins away from a chip this year and all the guys are super-young, but the salary situation will be interesting.
The value of guys like Ibaka and Harden will never be higher. Same probably applies to Westbrook, although I think he's being paid fairly.
The value of guys like Ibaka and Harden will never be higher. Same probably applies to Westbrook, although I think he's being paid fairly.
fun fact - the NBA's official document on instant replay usage is formatted with Comic Sans.
http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Instant-Replay-Situations.pdf
http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Instant-Replay-Situations.pdf
1 mill a year for his assist per game average.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Harden and Westbrook will keep getting better.
Not sure Ibaka will, I think he's satisfied with where he's at defensively (even though he shouldn't be) and it's going to be hard for him to improve offensively considering that he can't catch passes cleanly (and that's really, really hard to improve)
Not sure Ibaka will, I think he's satisfied with where he's at defensively (even though he shouldn't be) and it's going to be hard for him to improve offensively considering that he can't catch passes cleanly (and that's really, really hard to improve)
He's not a traditional PG and never will be. But I think his playoff performance has done enough to shut up most of the critics.
He's easily good enough to be the second-best player on a championship team, and he's an extremely hard worker.
His hands ARE terrible, but I think the potential is there for him to develop a real back-to-the-basket offensive game.IWMTB19 said:
This next year will be looked back on as the defining period in Sam Presti's tenure as GM.
Sarcasm, bro.Vire said:
True, but there's no way the Heat lose on Thursday.
Of course there's a way.
It'll be an uphill battle for OKC, but they almost won both of the last two games in Miami too.
I give them a 25% chance, but if it goes back to OKC things will get cray.
Blackace?? http://www.acemixes.com/
Clayton Bigsby
Banned
Yes. Gaf hop member Macca cooked that up.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
They need to come out and act like they actually want it the entire 48 minutes. I swear, it was so depressing watching them play that hard and fast in the first quarter and then just drag the entire rest of the game. I know fatigue is a factor but there is no reason why they should look slower than the Heat down the stretch and it honestly felt like Westbrook vs. the world in the last quarter.
This has been a very frustrating series to watch for me and I'm not even an OKC fan (just pulling for them).
This is fantastic. GET IGNORANT.
teruterubozu
Member
Looks like EC ugly ball will eventually persevere.
Starting next year it will be over 2 million per assist.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
blackace is your brother and he's a rapper?
Future PhaZe
Member
Davis mentions how he models some of his game off of Ibaka, but AD would have completely changed last nights game by himself. He's already better than Ibaka by quite a bit on D..
Syphon Filter
Member
chris,skip and stephen going to war on espn.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
This is going to happen isn't it? Fuck.
His second foul last night as just lololol on some McGee shit.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Ace, can we create a sub NBA thread for the Heat fans after the team wins the chip next game? That way we can barricade/isolate the infection.
His fouls are just.... if he's going to give away all of his position each time a block opportunity arises, he has to at least be smart about it.
Things he does well, he does at a high cost (rebounding in particular) and everything else he does is pretty average at best.
CrazyDogg77
Member
Is that the one where he tripped over Bosh?
No that was the one where he had an obvious goaltend and then committed the foul in the process giving the Heat an And 1.
CrazyDogg77
Member
Oh ok. I was just wondering.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Just saw this....lol blackace
Its easy to get them mixed up in game but cmon man haha
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Yes sir. And I called it before the season began. I have had time to accept the inevitable. What I refuse to accept is watching Heat Age celebrate that a douchebag like Wade will get his second ring. I will be avoiding sports radio until this NBA season is long forgotten.
The Thunder won 4 straight against the Spurs and haven't lost 4 in a row since 2009.
Keep hope alive!
The_Darkest_Red
Member
If Durant catches fire in Game 5 I think we'll be headed back to OKC.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Indeed
If people haven't caught on that he's paid to troll then I don't even know what to say...
mysticwhip
Banned
still can't believe sefolosha gave lebron space after everyone knew he was limping.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I can't believe they didn't go after Lebron harder on the other end of the court...
LegendofJoe
Member
The Thunder haven't developed a killer instinct yet. Durant needs to get angry, he's too nice.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
That's exactly how I see it too. It seemed like he was too content to take a few dribbles around the perimeter and then just give up when he wasn't getting any space. He needs to attack more. Honestly I think part of the reason why he was acting so timid is because of how the Heat are always trying to draw the charge whenever he drives. Lebron has been finding open lanes all series long but Durant is basically never getting near the basket without initiating some contact.
But yeah, when Sef took that 3 with like, what, a minute left? Uuuuuuugh...
This kind of Skip Bayless armchair psychoanalysis is ridiculous.
Rather than arguing about "clutchness," "killer instinct," "who wants it more," etc., some of us should stop and wonder whether the Heat have simply managed to come out on top in 3 out of 4 close games because they've gotten a better overall team performance. Guys like Battier, Chalmers, Cole and Jones have stepped up while guys like Ibaka and Harden haven't.
The Thunder had enough of a "killer instinct" to go through the Mavs, Lakers, and Spurs in 4, 5, and 6 games. If Harden simply plays to his season averages, we're talking about the Heat lacking "killer instinct" rather than the Thunder.
Save that shit for First Take.
Justin Timberlake
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The_Darkest_Red
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I agree that the term has a connotation that seems kind of undefinable but we're grounding it by talking about a specific scenario. Lebron is on the court limping around and instead of going after him OKC settles for a 3 from the corner with 1 minute left in the game. "Lack of killer instinct" sounds like a pretty simple way to sum that up to me. Saying that doesn't make anything you said any less true, though.
Regardless of who stepped up and who didn't the game was tied with only a few minutes to go. It was either team's game, you know? I don't care how stupid it sounds, the Heat look like they want these games more than the Thunder do, with the possible exception of Westbrook. Just look at how freaking insane Bosh got over 1 offensive rebound.
Herpes Reasons
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if harden stops being bitch made and man the fuck up, then it would be a different story.
harden is the X-factor that is going to make or break lebron's annunciation as GOAT by the media and his ascension to heaven.
Future PhaZe
Member
The saddest part is that the Bulls are actively tanking next season at this point because they don't really expect Rose to be ready until June.
Unless D-Will and Dwight join together on the nets the Heat literally won't have any competition in the playoffs until the finals next season.
Not 1...not 2..
GODDAMMIT
Let's call it what it was--a stupid, ill-advised, poorly-executed play. No need to read so deeply into it.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I don't think it's looking into anything too deeply. Lebron is limping around the court, why not attack him? It wasn't just that possession, either. If Durant was limping like that and guarding Lebron who do you think would be taking the shots for the Heat with a few minutes left in the game?
ClovingWestbrook
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Im not Timberlake so no delusion for me.
marathonfool
Member
If the Heat close out this series in 5 games, are you gonna pull a close series shit? The Heat have been in control most of the series. Westbrook had a career game and the Thunder blew a 17 point lead.
Westbrook has been the media's whipping boy, but I noticed a lot of times in the 4th quarter he's wasting time trying to get Durant the ball. Durant comes off multiple screens, can't get himself open or gets pushed out. The shot clock runs down and Westbrook is forced to take a shot. Westbrook plays stupid, but he also play stupidly good. He gets criticized for Durant's weaknesses when Durant is the guy who can't handle the ball.