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2012 NBA Offseason |OT2| Lakers Fans Despise Freedom.
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I get flak for it, but I was one of the few happy to see him come to the Magic. He's entertaining, and he has a chance to go off in the playoffs. But I wasn't as huge a fan of npBass as some. Not sure where he fits now, but I'd keep him over the corpse of J-Rich at least.
MorisUkunRasik
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The joke is Nori worshipping lil debbie while everyone else agreed that she wasn't no dinner thing.
Future PhaZe
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I'm personally pretty high on Bazz...when ever you get a great SG prospect with an NBA body you gotta be interested. He's a left with a lot of bulk already...can probably produce right away.
Not really high at all on Nerlens. Cody Zeller looks interesting. Overall probably a slightly worse draft than 2010 which was pretty awful overall so yea..
The guy is just such a mediocre GM. He probably has one of the worst FA signing track records in the league. All those trades he wins were usually to rectify he's mistakes. All of this leads to below average mediocrity which is the worst position you can be in this league.
He's also unbelievably loyal to Bargnani to the point it's just sickening. And he constantly overpays FA that nobody else would want (Turk, Kleiza, Fields, Kapono) and his own players for no reason (Amir Johnson, Calderon, Bargnani).
He probably thinks Dwight's a Skrull and the real Dwight would have opted out.
Red Blaster
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I'm surprised Brook Lopez could even lift up a comic book due to his mono
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Are the 76ers really going to start Kwame at center instead of going with Thad and Hawes as the starting big men? Why?
I actually laughed at that. well done
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/...nue-puruse-orlando-magic-center-dwight-howard
Hennigan is really trying to get Mitch Morey or anyone to up their offers and its failing in spectacular fashion lol.
Hennigan is really trying to get Mitch Morey or anyone to up their offers and its failing in spectacular fashion lol.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Cavs should just trade for Dwight straight up. Best way to stop the Heat is to do it yourself.
Kwame AND Hawes will be starting, according to Collins.
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Yeah... Figure that one out.
There was an article I was reading earlier where Doug was talking about how he's always wanted Kwame on the team since he got the coaching job in the Philly. Talked about how he made so many mistakes as a coach when he coached the Kwame-Wizards back in the day and that the guy is really a diamond in the rough and blurrrrgghghhhhhhh
I think it's simply Hennigan isn't going to go through with Bynum what they went through with Dwight. If Bynum won't commit to an extension I don't see him going to ORL. I know we laugh at the Cavs and call them hypocrites for trying to help super-teams, but getting Dwight out of the East is actually good basketball sense
Yeah that makes sense since it's still entirely possible Bynum or Dwight will walk away from an extra 2 years and like 40 million. I just hope Mitch can somehow work towards getting a 3 team done and shipping Bynum elsewhere then.
Red Blaster
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Nelo just won't take no for an answer
squicken's posts say no, but his avatar...
LegendofJoe
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2 guards are going to be lighting it up in college next year, the draft is stacked at that position. Seriously, check out some of these guys:
For sure 1st rounders
Rodney Purvis (best prospect NC State has had in a while)
Shabazz Mohammad (more athletic Harden)
Archie Goodwin (more athletic Doron Lamb)
Reggie Bullock (better overall game than Barnes)
Rasheed Sulaimon (better than Rivers imo)
Ricardo Ledo (will dominate at Providence)
HS All-Americans and under the radar guys
BJ Young (lights out shooter, will probably lead SEC in scoring)
Gary Harris (don't know much about him, McD All-American though)
PJ Hairston (NBA body and athleticism)
Jamaal Franklin (will give Faried run for his money for best SDSU player)
Michael Snaer (most underrated player in the ACC)
Carter-Williams (Syracuse boost)
Ben McLemore (will get a lot of burn for Kansas, not sure how good he'll be)
For sure 1st rounders
Rodney Purvis (best prospect NC State has had in a while)
Shabazz Mohammad (more athletic Harden)
Archie Goodwin (more athletic Doron Lamb)
Reggie Bullock (better overall game than Barnes)
Rasheed Sulaimon (better than Rivers imo)
Ricardo Ledo (will dominate at Providence)
HS All-Americans and under the radar guys
BJ Young (lights out shooter, will probably lead SEC in scoring)
Gary Harris (don't know much about him, McD All-American though)
PJ Hairston (NBA body and athleticism)
Jamaal Franklin (will give Faried run for his money for best SDSU player)
Michael Snaer (most underrated player in the ACC)
Carter-Williams (Syracuse boost)
Ben McLemore (will get a lot of burn for Kansas, not sure how good he'll be)
If you can get the best C in the league you fucking do it. I won't even be mad if we don't get him. By all accounts we're apparently in the lead so hell yeah I'm hoping we get him otherwise if we don't then he goes to Houston or elsewhere.
edit:If Houston really wanted Dwight they could have had a long time ago if they offered that deal that was reported awhile back. I've been saying that Bynum makes sense since he's clearly the safer bet and won't cost nearly as much as getting Dwight. Right now the 3 team trades being discussed sound like a compromise since Houston doesn't want to break the bank to get Dwight but still want their top flight Center. Right now it sounds like Hennigan is trying to work Houston, LA, or Cleveland to give up more than what they're willing to offer and it's failing.
The best player in next year's draft is Cody Zeller aka Best Zeller. And Shabazz is nothing like Harden. He has a SF game. His game is similar to Carmelo, but he is really lacking in his change direction and change of pace.
Gully State
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ClovingWestbrook
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Hey fellas
Let this week be the week that the Lakers shed Antonio Bynum and start the Dwight Howard, Stevie Nash, Old Snake, Ms.Gasol era.
Let this week be the week that the Lakers shed Antonio Bynum and start the Dwight Howard, Stevie Nash, Old Snake, Ms.Gasol era.
LiveFromKyoto
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Hold on now - you're rewriting history after the fact on a lot of that.
Turkoglu was hands down the #1 free agent that summer, it was seen as a coup when he landed him. Even though the contract turned out to be bs, he turned down a similar offer from Portland and a lot of Orlando players including Howard were pissed when Otis didn't match.
Kapono was easily the best 3 point shooter in the league (and one of the best in history) when they signed him, shooting a god-tier.494 and .514 from 3, and was an important piece on the Shaq/Wade Heat championship team. He was in plenty of demand. That contract was the premium for landing him on a team that wasn't a championship contender. The thinking was he would look great in Smitch's system that manufactured open 3 pointers all game.
Kleiza already had a 47 point game and a .472 shooting season under his belt in the NBA, and had won the Euroleague scoring title and led Lithuania to a medal in the FIBA championship right before the Raptors signed him. That's another contract that looks terrible in hindsight but was good market value for a guy who a lot of people thought looked primed to explode at the time.
And as much as Bargs bugs me, he is unquestionably underpaid. Look at the guys in his tier, the LMAs and Brooks Lopez types. That is not a bad contract.
Same with Calderon, look at what his numbers were:
12.8 ppg // 8.9 apg // 0.497 FG // 0.406 // 3p FT // 0.981
Those are crazy numbers, exactly what you want from an unselfish point guard type. He's also a pass-first motivated guy. He's a flawed player, but look at what other starting PGs get, that's not an overpaid FA deal even though he's slid since signing it.
I think the blame with all those guys lies more in the team's culture, that they were successful with other organizations and suddenly got lazy when they came here. That's not a coincidence. If you want to blame Colangelo for something with those guys, blame him for not having a more disciplined atmosphere around the team.
And yes, his model for team building has been majorly flawed too. But he seems to have learned from all that - Casey seems like more of a disciplinarian and his style centred on defence and rebounding is exactly what's been needed here. I look at this as Colangelo's chance to get it right, with things finally headed in a sane direction - if he doesn't here, then yeah, forget about him.
He has a big body like them that's why people compare him to those guys.
ClovingWestbrook
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BTW Knicks Age. I am rooting for you. Just like when I watch Intervention or Hoarders, I root for the sick individual.
Sulaimon says he believes he'll be at Duke for probably 2-3 years (they all say that) but the rub on him is he's a phenominal defender and decent shooter. He may also want to stick around for Matt Jones and Rodney Hood and make a run in 13-14 season. We will have a scary backcourt.
He's an all around better player than Rivers but he's not as big a scorer/chucker as Rivers. AR also had the mindset he was gone after one year anyway, Sheed does not. I'm interested to see what Haiston and Bullock do for UNC this year. Tokoto is also a sleeper but Huckleberry knows how to get those 1st rounders to stick around.
Colonel Nasty
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/e...7913/How-does-Jeremy-Lin-fit-with-the-Rockets
Even after all the forward army talk, and knocks on Morey, I'm actually excited to see this team.
ClovingWestbrook
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Honestly, I don't want to jinx anything but with this move, the Rockets may have thrown themselves out of the Dwight sweepstakes. Think about it, you're Dwight Howard, who do you want to play with: Jeremy Lin or Steve Nash?
LegendofJoe
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I should have said a better shooting, but less explosive Wade. Like Dwayne his best skill is attacking the rim, but you're right his handle isn't the best and that limits how much he can leverage his athleticism. His skill level is closer to a 3, but he doesn't have the size to play there in the NBA. At least on the defensive end that makes him a shooting guard.
Adam Blade
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... it's not like he's dead or anything.
ClovingWestbrook
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If anything he's been resurrected...
Colonel Nasty
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Exactly, a young exciting team or bunch of old guys with a three year window?
ClovingWestbrook
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With a chance to win a couple of rings and have his number retired next to Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Magic, Kobe, Worthy, West, Baylor? Yea... Where else is he going to go?
Adam Blade
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LAC to have his number retired along with CP3's?
LiveFromKyoto
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Yeah, but now he's in position to cash in big time by taking the China's Favourite Black Man throne from T-Mac. He's got that killer winning smile and two-eyes-looking-in-the-same-direction combo that could really make that work.
LiveFromKyoto
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Stop it. The grief is clouding your mind.
LegendofJoe
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I didn't know Sulaimon had committed to being a multi-year player. If Sulaimon and Cook step up you'll have a much better backcourt than you had last year. Losing Rivers was addition by subtraction. I think it's going to be betwen you and NCSU for top spot in the ACC. I think Bullock and McAdoo are both going to have break out seasons, but UNC won't have the depth or experience to be a real threat.
What a great thing to say about a pro athlete.
Needs to motivate a pro athlete to stay in shape.
Signs him to a guaranteed multi-year contract.
LegendofJoe
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Bowser you should link that pic to Felton over Twitter.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/18/jeremy-lin-exclusive/index.html
Some snips:
"Honestly, I preferred New York," Lin says. "But my main goal in free agency was to go to a team that had plans for me and wanted me. I wanted to have fun playing basketball. ... Now I'm definitely relieved."
The process began in late June, when Knicks coach Mike Woodson, who was in Los Angeles visiting Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and Landry Fields, contacted Lin to arrange a meeting to discuss his future. When Woodson said that his schedule prevented him from coming to Palo Alto, Lin -- who has been living with his parents this summer -- wound up flying to L.A. That night, over dinner at Mastro's Steakhouse in Beverly Hills, the guard was sold. "Woodson was saying, 'You're going to be a starter, you're going to be a big part of the team,'" Lin says. "I came away really excited."
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The last time Lin talked to Knicks owner James Dolan was right before Game 5 of the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs, when New York was down, 3-1, to eventual NBA champion Miami. Lin, who had suffered a meniscus tear in his left knee, had been ruled out for the remainder of the regular season and had already missed the first four games of this playoff series.
Now Dolan, with point guard Baron Davis also injured, wondered about Lin's availability. But the matter had already been settled. "Every single vet on our team that has been in the league longer than five years pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn't play," Lin says. "And I had arguments with them about why I should."
Dolan -- who didn't talk to Lin often but had generally been "really nice to me" --wound up expressing support. "I have plans for you in the future," Lin recalls the owner saying. "This is a long-term investment. Don't rush back."
Some snips:
"Honestly, I preferred New York," Lin says. "But my main goal in free agency was to go to a team that had plans for me and wanted me. I wanted to have fun playing basketball. ... Now I'm definitely relieved."
The process began in late June, when Knicks coach Mike Woodson, who was in Los Angeles visiting Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and Landry Fields, contacted Lin to arrange a meeting to discuss his future. When Woodson said that his schedule prevented him from coming to Palo Alto, Lin -- who has been living with his parents this summer -- wound up flying to L.A. That night, over dinner at Mastro's Steakhouse in Beverly Hills, the guard was sold. "Woodson was saying, 'You're going to be a starter, you're going to be a big part of the team,'" Lin says. "I came away really excited."
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The last time Lin talked to Knicks owner James Dolan was right before Game 5 of the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs, when New York was down, 3-1, to eventual NBA champion Miami. Lin, who had suffered a meniscus tear in his left knee, had been ruled out for the remainder of the regular season and had already missed the first four games of this playoff series.
Now Dolan, with point guard Baron Davis also injured, wondered about Lin's availability. But the matter had already been settled. "Every single vet on our team that has been in the league longer than five years pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn't play," Lin says. "And I had arguments with them about why I should."
Dolan -- who didn't talk to Lin often but had generally been "really nice to me" --wound up expressing support. "I have plans for you in the future," Lin recalls the owner saying. "This is a long-term investment. Don't rush back."
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