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2012 NBA Offseason |OT2| Lakers Fans Despise Freedom.
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I lol-ed
I'm sorry that my words were so damning to your book choice
Black Mamba
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That wasn't completely correct. You don't pay a tax for going over the salary cap. You pay a tax for going over the Luxury tax.
for instance, the NBA salary cap is like $58 million but the Luxury tax is $70 million.
You can go over the $58 cap using exceptions (like pay raises for your own player and a $5 million exception if you're over the cap).
Once you hit $70 mil, then you pay a tax. Right now it's 1 for 1, but starting in 2013-14 it will be $1.25 the first $5 million (pr dollar) and rise every $5 million. teams over the tax for 3 years in a row or 4 out of 5 pay an extra $0.50 for every level (repeater tax). This is new, it used to only be 1 for 1 all the time.
Also, you have less exceptions over the luxury tax. The new luxury tax system is already affecting some teams, like New York who let some players leave. Curious to see how it will be in 3 more years.
Both the cap and luxury tax rise as revenues rise each year.
edit: There are also restrictions on salaries. Max and minimums, max raises and bonuses, a lot dependent on how many years the player has been in the league and whether you're changing teams or not.
2010 Lakers
2011 Mavs
2012 Heat
2006 Heat
2009 Magic
in that order. IMO.
MorisUkunRasik
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I don't think so. Last year they had the series under control...until game 4. Then we all know what happened.
The heat team this year was more mature and poised, would have beaten last year's dallas team
Black Mamba
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I don't agree, but it's 55/45 for me, so it's not a big deal. (edit: I actually think 2011 Miami was better than 2012, so there's that too)
Also, Salvadore, great place to look at team salaries and player contracts here: http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/index.jsp
Not everything updated yet for the upcoming season, but he's getting there.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Fixed!
yep :/
Edit:
Theres no way in hell dallas beats the heat if Lebron actually showed up. Especially this year's version.
I would really like an explanation for this
Are you saying they would have been better if LeBron didn't shit his pants in the finals?
I do remember that Wade was ballin' till game 6. He really didn't have a great playoffs
Black Mamba
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i had been saying all year last season I felt Miami was worse. Just everyone better got worse, too. Wade was worse, which was the main culprit, along with their frontline after Bosh (and Battier was ass all year long, as was Miller).
Lebron shits his pants this year against 2011 Dallas, too. Maybe even moreso. Impossible to know for sure, of course. I'm not going to let a stretch of 3-4 games in each season sway a season's worth of play.
lol. 2010 wasn't a strong team, but it was certainly better than Dallas. And 2006 Heat team was the weakest team to win a title in who knows how long. 2012 ccouldn't pull it off, either, IMO.
Whatever, 2009 would have killed all those teams.
Wait.....are you telling me that LeBron this year is "maybe" worse than LeBron last year?
Black Mamba
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No, he wasn't. But if 2012 Lebron had to face 2011 Mavs exactly as they were (including Dirk and Kidd never having chipped), Lebron's mind might be full of fuck. The demons.
That Dallas team had no fear of Lebron. And I don't think they liked him or the Heat much at all. But all this is speculative, of course.
I think the 2011 team was stronger, mostly because of how much Wade got worse.
MorisUkunRasik
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Bron was less shook this year. Did anyone else notice him taking deep breathes almost every time the camera was on him, even before tip off, not exhausted type breathing but the nerve calming technique. Wouldn't surprise me if he researched other such things to keep his nerves in check.
Plus Durant/Harden are too fresh to talk smack like Marion. They're just not about that life. I'm really interested in seeing Bron play a team close to as good as Miami with a real shit talker guarding him at least a portion of the time.
Plus Durant/Harden are too fresh to talk smack like Marion. They're just not about that life. I'm really interested in seeing Bron play a team close to as good as Miami with a real shit talker guarding him at least a portion of the time.
I think LeBron's game 6 against the Celtics (yes, even though it was only the ECF) showed his mental growth. that was a fluky game as far as how hot he was from the perimeter, but he's been in the same situation against the same boston core in the same arena and had this happen to him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJl-0TML4i4
i found a link to this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ykRWJvZ7Q&feature=related
I was in the building for that game. it was fun
shira
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Delonte effect
I don't see how you say Lebron of this year would have crapped himself against that mav team. The difference between this year and last year is that when his jumper was off(like it was this finals) he would post up or drive. Last year he would want no parts of the ball.
OKC is probably a better more athletic defense than that maverick team also.
OKC is probably a better more athletic defense than that maverick team also.
I feel like most of the shit talkers in the league now are role players. All the superstars are too buddy buddy with each other
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
full circle
MorisUkunRasik
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Yea, shit talkers are a dying breed.
Next year in a Lakers jersey with a Magic cap needs to happen.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Yo' Clovis, come help me clear my backlog:
shira
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It's a side story that adds nothing to the original trilogy
Kobe and KG are role players?
Not far from it.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Shhhhhhh don't ruin the lakers fans 2013 championship celebration with reality.
Sorry for taking long to respond.
I think it's pretty big. I mean, the Warriors aren't great, so there's a lot of Laker fans and fans of other teams around here, but I'd say there's a decent number of Warriors fans. Wouldn't say as many as the Niners or Giants, though, considering their recent successes. And it's died down since 2007 when the Warriors were actually decent and had that crazy upset over Dallas in the playoffs.
What's nice is that Oracle Arena isn't far from downtown SF, so I try to catch at least 6-7 games a year. Will be interesting to see if everything goes through for their proposed move to San Francisco by 2017. Hopefully SF supports them (and hopefully they aren't still bad).
theignoramus
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should be even more "interesting" with shved in the picture, since they're both turnover machines.
theignoramus
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Us Raptors fans are 'bout that life.
Kobe was actually pretty damn good last season when he wasn't playing hero ball. We were like two Kobe TO's away from going up 3-1 on the eventual WC champions.
With Nash and Dwight, as well as hopefully some soul-searching and a recognition of his own limitations, there should be a lot less of that hero ball this season.
child please
shira
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I can't see Kobe deferring to anyone. Nash apparently doesn't take those kinds of shots and Dwight can be erratic at the ft line
That series was hell for casual fans.
But it was amazing for basketball junkies like myself.
don't make me go all casual on you right hurr
No way in hell.
Kobe was still good enough to match LeBron, and Metta was better back then. Pau and Bynum would overwhelm the Heat's frontcourt, and Fisher hadn't reached "Derek Fisher is so old! Retire!" phase yet.
2010 Lakers in 7.
2009 Lakers in 5.
2001 Lakers in a sweep.
Future PhaZe
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2009 Lakers were dramatically better than 2010 Lakers but 2012 Heat beat both teams.
2010 Lakers were just bad.
2009 Lakers were actually good but Bynum wasn't really good at all nor was he healthy then so the Heat would take it. If you could somehow put 2012 Bynum on that 2009 Lakers team they'd win though.
2010 Lakers were just bad.
2009 Lakers were actually good but Bynum wasn't really good at all nor was he healthy then so the Heat would take it. If you could somehow put 2012 Bynum on that 2009 Lakers team they'd win though.
Fenderputty
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This is what I'm hoping for as well. Kobe needs to let Nash do his thing. If that happens, I think we're good to go.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Yo' Clovis, come help me clear my backlog:
I am the wrong person to ask to help clear any backlog =/
BTW, Jim Boeheim on Colin today said that LeBron may be a better player than MJ.
Future PhaZe
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I'd rank them like this:
2008 Celtics
2011 Mavs
2009 Lakers
2012 Heat
2010 Lakers
This is based on the quality of their regular and post season performances, not so much who would beat who in a series. I'd put my money on 2008 and 2011 Mavs as the teams who would kill everyone else.
People are sleeping on 2011 Mavs. That team was really good. People say a Bron that shows up beats that team but shit...it's no coincidence that 2012 Bron almost got beat by the C'z. A good team defense combined with a DPOY caliber big gets him shook.
2008 Celtics
2011 Mavs
2009 Lakers
2012 Heat
2010 Lakers
This is based on the quality of their regular and post season performances, not so much who would beat who in a series. I'd put my money on 2008 and 2011 Mavs as the teams who would kill everyone else.
People are sleeping on 2011 Mavs. That team was really good. People say a Bron that shows up beats that team but shit...it's no coincidence that 2012 Bron almost got beat by the C'z. A good team defense combined with a DPOY caliber big gets him shook.
An injury to Chris Bosh for over half the series doesn't matter apparently.
hey that's the same world where thinking Kobe will play less hero ball this season.
ClovingWestbrook
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Apparently the injuries to James Worthy and Byron Scott don't matter with the Lakers vs the Bulls, too.
No one is interested in the warped personal universe you call your own.
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