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[iamshadowlark]

Why would Dwight sign the extension at this point?

Why not? Him to BK is pretty much dead unless he wants a paycut.

 

[Nelo Ice]

Lakers pushing hard to land Magic center Dwight Howard & meeting with Magic today,sources tell Y! LAL wants DH contract extension commitment

Dwight can't sign an extension at Brooklyn that's for sure.

I thought the plan was to hope he signs in FA for 5 years vs the extension for 3 years now.

Also

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets currently do not have a meeting set up with the Magic in regards to landing Dwight Howard, source tells Y! Sports.

 

[giga]

 

[Future PhaZe]

Doesn't Dwight realize the Brooklyn thing is over with?

Playing in LA with two top 50 players of all time on a max deal and a likely chance to chip and he mad...

WTF

 

[giga]

Why not? Him to BK is pretty much dead unless he wants a paycut.

CP3, Horford, Dwight.

 

[Nelo Ice]

Doesn't Dwight realize the Brooklyn thing is over with?

Playing in LA with two top 50 players of all time on a max deal and a likely chance to chip and he mad...

WTF

Apparently he doesn't want to live up to our line of great Centers nor does he want the pressure of the 2nd largest market.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Apparently he doesn't want to live up to our line of great Centers nor does he want the pressure of the 2nd largest market.

why not.he has the potential.

 

[commish]

Doesn't Dwight realize the Brooklyn thing is over with?

Playing in LA with two top 50 players of all time on a max deal and a likely chance to chip and he mad...

WTF

Now Nash is a top 50 player of all time. Mmmhmm. Laker fans.

 

[Nelo Ice]

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
Grant Hill is going to the Clippers.

Well didn't see that coming. Same guy who broke the Nash news.

Adam to celebrate?

 

[Red Blaster]

Apparently he doesn't want to live up to our line of great Centers nor does he want the pressure of the 2nd largest market.

yeah Dwight doesn't want the pressure of playing in LA and instead wants to go to an understanding and forgiving place like New York

 

[iamshadowlark]

Doesn't Dwight realize the Brooklyn thing is over with?

Playing in LA with two top 50 players of all time on a max deal and a likely chance to chip and he mad...

WTF

Two top 50s?

CP3, Horford, Dwight.

Atl may have a shot.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Great article on Batum stuff. Actually makes sense.

Acknowledging their offer to restricted free agent Nic Batum -- four years, $46.5 million -- was for more than he's worth, the Minnesota Timberwolves thought at one point late last week they were making progress on a sign-and-trade with the Portland Trail Blazers.

A source with knowledge of the discussions said on Monday night that Blazers general manager Neil Olshey gave Wolves president of basketball operations David Kahn names of players to work into a three-team deal. The list included Suns restricted center Robin Lopez, Bulls guard Kyle Korver (who since has been traded to Atlanta) and an unknown player from Denver -- possibly small forward Wilson Chandler.

Olshey made it clear he was looking for a wing-type/small forward or center. Kahn then engaged Phoenix and Denver in trade discussions, thinking he could find a way to get Batum.

The Wolves were willing to give up as much as three first-round picks in a Batum three-team deal, but they also wanted Portland to take back center Darko Milicic. The Wolves decided to use the amnesty clause on Milicic after those particular talks with Portland failed. Never did the Wolves offer three first-round picks for Batum straight up.

Wolves owner Glen Taylor even got on the phone with Olshey and passionately told him to just find a way to sign Batum himself, rather than waiting on a sign-and-trade. The Wolves were hesitant to handcuff their cap for 72-plus hours knowing they had no shot at their target.

The Wolves also thought they could use the Martell Webster trade fallout chip. The Wolves and Blazers have been talking for nearly two years, trying to find a happy meeting ground. At one point, the Wolves thought they had it, but the Blazers backed out at the last second.

[. . .]

As for the Comcast Portland report that the Wolves offered forward Derrick Williams and two first-round picks for Batum, it never happened. Williams' name came up on the Portland end, but the Wolves were never willing to give up an asset like that while simultaneously overpaying Batum.

In the end, all efforts failed mostly because Olshey kept going back-and-forth, and Phoenix wasn't in love with the Lopez offers.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/...c_Batum_cost_Wolves_at_least_one_target071712

 

[Herpes Reasons]

Lakers pushing hard to land Magic center Dwight Howard & meeting with Magic today,sources tell Y! LAL wants DH contract extension commitment

Dwight can't sign an extension at Brooklyn that's for sure.

come at me dwight. were ready for you.

Los Angeles Lawlkers

Dwight already said he aint signing shit unless its with Crooklyn, the idea was that you'd trade for him and hope bird rights forces his hand to sign at the end of the season. Morans.

dwight aint saying no to an extra $25mil or so if his contract is extended.
he cant say no to the limelights of hollywood.
hell, he's probably too chicken shit to say no to kobe face to face.
join laker-age red blaster. search your heart, you know its true.

Well didn't see that coming. Same guy who broke the Nash news.

Adam to celebrate?

its confirmed. grant hill doesn't like to win.

 

[Knux-Future]

Dwight wants to be the face of the franchise.

Deron would be second fiddle to him.

Kobe wouldn't be.

I guess.

 

[SoulPlaya]

So, according to REALGM boards, the Bulls could have had Mayo but just cheaped out.

 

[diehard]

Dwight wants to be the face of the franchise.

Deron would be second fiddle to him.

Kobe wouldn't be.

I guess.

Deron/Dwight is a better pairing than Kobe/Dwight for the future

 

[marathonfool]

Great article on Batum stuff. Actually makes sense.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/...c_Batum_cost_Wolves_at_least_one_target071712

Wolves owner Glen Taylor even got on the phone with Olshey and passionately told him to just find a way to sign Batum himself, rather than waiting on a sign-and-trade. The Wolves were hesitant to handcuff their cap for 72-plus hours knowing they had no shot at their target.

Kahn is a dumbass and his owner had to get involved in negotiations. Completely overplayed his hand.

 

[SephCast]

So, according to REALGM boards, the Bulls could have had Mayo but just cheaped out.

I'm raging to my friend on gchat right now.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Raptors' Lowry/Fields press conference happening now.

Fields mentioning "team dynamic changing" last season which caused him to struggle. Lowry smirked because he knew Fields was referring to ball hog Melo.

Ha ha.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

So is Batum going to stay with the Blazers or is this thing going to keep being dragged out?

 

[Nelo Ice]

yeah Dwight doesn't want the pressure of playing in LA and instead wants to go to an understanding and forgiving place like New York

Lol yeah I guess Dwight wants to take all the credit since surely NY would not turn on him.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

They don't look like they're faking it. Moral victory.

 

[Fox318]

They don't look like they're faking it. Moral victory.

If only they were getting pre-melo Fields

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Deron/Dwight is a better pairing than Kobe/Dwight for the future

True. But Dwight/Deron ain't happening. There's as much chance as LeBron/Dwight happening. Dwight needs to give it up. It's his own damn fault for opting in.

 

[LegendofJoe]

So, according to REALGM boards, the Bulls could have had Mayo but just cheaped out.

Making big moves in FA is not a good idea when the cornerstone of your team is going to be out for pretty much the entire season. If you can trade Rip for cap relief and decide not to match Asik you'll have breathing room next year to sign a decent player. You'll also get a better pick in the draft then you would have if you had decided to match Asik and sign someone like Mayo.

 

[CharlieDigital]

But Dwight/Deron ain't happening.

Actually, there is still a chance this season and the Hump deal is the writing on the wall that Billy King is positioning for another shot at the deadline. Obviously, I think they will see how the team does this year and how Brook does, but because of the way the contracts work, he can pursue D12 at the trade deadline.

Because Brook didn't sign the offer sheets on the table and didn't sign for a 5th year, he can still be dealt this year and the Hump 2 year deal also means that he can be dealt this year before the trade deadline.

 

[diehard]

True. But Dwight/Deron ain't happening. There's as much chance as LeBron/Dwight happening. Dwight needs to give it up. It's his own damn fault for opting in.

Dwight's stupidity robbed of us a team that could challenge the Heat in the East..

 

[Nelo Ice]

Actually, there is still a chance this season and the Hump deal is the writing on the wall that Billy King is positioning for another shot at the deadline. Obviously, I think they will see how the team does this year and how Brook does, but because of the way the contracts work, he can pursue D12 at the trade deadline.

Because Brook didn't sign the offer sheets on the table and didn't sign for a 5th year, he can still be dealt this year and the Hump 2 year deal also means that he can be dealt this year before the trade deadline.

That would mean Hennigan would actually want a max contract Brook Lopez.

 

[commish]

Deron/Dwight is a better pairing than Kobe/Dwight for the future

I dunno... having to go through Melo/Amare/Felton each year is enough to push anyone to the Western conference.

 

[Nelo Ice]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Clippers are still finalizing terms of the deal, but Grant Hill has committed to signing with them, sources tell Y!

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[Red Blaster]

Actually, there is still a chance this season and the Hump deal is the writing on the wall that Billy King is positioning for another shot at the deadline. Obviously, I think they will see how the team does this year and how Brook does, but because of the way the contracts work, he can pursue D12 at the trade deadline.

Because Brook didn't sign the offer sheets on the table and didn't sign for a 5th year, he can still be dealt this year and the Hump 2 year deal also means that he can be dealt this year before the trade deadline.

Anytime you can trade for a no defense playing center who averages 6 rebounds a game and is being paid the max, you've got to do it.

Bropez is the biggest shit sandwich in a league full of really shitty sandwiches

 

[CharlieDigital]

That would mean Hennigan would actually want a max contract Brook Lopez.

Look at what the bigs are being paid in this league (Hibbert, Asik).

Not much choice.

Also bear in mind that pre-mono Brook Lopez was one a top 5 C and arguably better than Bynum (beats Bynum solidly in head-to-head matchups). He averaged 13/8.1 and 18.8/8.7 before he came down with mono (takes about 6-12mo. to recover).

Anytime you can trade for a no defense playing center who averages 6 rebounds a game...

Again, if you look at his pre-mono numbers, he's around 8.5 RPG. His defense -- in terms of blocks -- is pretty solid. 1.8 and 1.7 pre-mono. Good enough for #6 and #7 amongst all centers in those years respectively. He beat out Bynum, Jefferson, Okafor, Noah, Horford, Chandler, Gasol, Hibbert, etc.

BTW, his career RPG is 7.5, not 6.

 

[marathonfool]

So is Batum going to stay with the Blazers or is this thing going to keep being dragged out?

Staying in Portland.

 

[reilo]

There's plenty of players you can't stop when they get hot.

Monta Ellis is unstoppable. Sometimes.

 

[jbug617]

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/225269916582948864

Grant Hill working on a contract with the Clippers.

 

[SUPREME1]

i don't think they could move kobe like they moved the sonics

Daaaaaamn.



Edit: Fuck a Grant Hill.

 

[thekad]

So signing Caron Butler for that money was even more stupid than we thought. How many weeks until he loses his starting job to Hill?

 

[commish]

Monta Ellis is unstoppable. Sometimes.

All the time. If Monta took every shot, I'm pretty sure his team would never lose.

 

[reilo]

Another thing...

Did we completely gloss over the fact that the Spurs/Parker made Westbrook their complete bitch in the WCF? And you guys are wondering if prime-Payton/Stoctkon would keep up?

18/7/38FG% against an old-ass Spurs backcourt, but yet he would dominate versus the '92/'96 Olympic teams?

SMFH, all of you.

 

[commish]

So signing Caron Butler for that money was even more stupid than we thought. How many weeks until he loses his starting job to Hill?

I didn't think Butler at $8m per was that bad. I can list 200 worse contracts.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Look at what the bigs are being paid in this league (Hibbert, Asik).

Not much choice.

Also bear in mind that pre-mono Brook Lopez was one a top 5 C and arguably better than Bynum (beats Bynum solidly in head-to-head matchups). He averaged 13/8.1 and 18.8/8.7 before he came down with mono (takes about 6-12mo. to recover).



Again, if you look at his pre-mono numbers, he's around 8.5 RPG. His defense -- in terms of blocks -- is pretty solid. 1.8 and 1.7 pre-mono. Good enough for #6 and #7 amongst all centers in those years respectively. He beat out Bynum, Jefferson, Okafor, Noah, Horford, Chandler, etc.

BTW, his career RPG is 7.5, not 6.

Lopez is trash. The regression in his stats in year 3 is not a good pattern. And he is slow and unathletic which means he will age even worse. I wouldn't touch that contrac with a 10 foot pole. And he's nowhere near Bynum now.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

The Clippers have had a strange offseason.

 

[SephCast]

Making big moves in FA is not a good idea when the cornerstone of your team is going to be out for pretty much the entire season. If you can trade Rip for cap relief and decide not to match Asik you'll have breathing room next year to sign a decent player. You'll also get a better pick in the draft then you would have if you had decided to match Asik and sign someone like Mayo.

Bulls Management has never shown willingness to go above and beyond to put together a contender. They had the chance last year, and all we got was Rip Hamilton. That's the issue. We can say they're saving up for when Derrick is 100%, but we don't really know that they'll go all-in when he is up to par.

 

[Red Blaster]

Look at what the bigs are being paid in this league (Hibbert, Asik).

Not much choice.

Also bear in mind that pre-mono Brook Lopez was one a top 5 C and arguably better than Bynum (beats Bynum solidly in head-to-head matchups). He averaged 13/8.1 and 18.8/8.7 before he came down with mono (takes about 6-12mo. to recover).



Again, if you look at his pre-mono numbers, he's around 8.5 RPG. His defense -- in terms of blocks -- is pretty solid. 1.8 and 1.7 pre-mono. Good enough for #6 and #7 amongst all centers in those years respectively. He beat out Bynum, Jefferson, Okafor, Noah, Horford, Chandler, Gasol, Hibbert, etc.

BTW, his career RPG is 7.5, not 6.

That's like saying Al Jefferson was the 2nd best center in the league the year he averaged 24/11 in Minnesota. Lopez just stat padded on trash teams. He shot 62% at the rim his last healthy season, that's absolutely terrible for a center. I hate Bynumbskull with a passion but he's a legitimately good offensive player and is light years ahead of Lopez.

 

[CharlieDigital]

Lopez is trash. The regression in his stats in year 3 is not a good pattern. And he is slow and unathletic which means he will age even worse. I wouldn't touch that contrac with a 10 foot pole. And he's nowhere near Bynum now.

You do know that he contracted mono right before year 3 right? (hint: yes)

You do know what mono does to one's body right? (hint: fatigue, muscle weakness, loss of sleep)

You do know how long it takes to recover from mono right? (hint: 6 months+ in up to 22% of cases and up to 40% of cases for symptoms of fatigue alone)

 

[obijkenobi]

If they land Dwight, I'd rather see Manu on that team instead of Kobe.

There wouldn't be enough tequila in the state of Michigan for me if that trade happened. Thankfully it never will.

 

[thekad]

I didn't think Butler at $8m per was that bad. I can list 200 worse contracts.

Old, coming off injury, 12 PER.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Bulls Management has never shown willingness to go above and beyond to put together a contender. They had the chance last year, and all we got was Rip Hamilton. That's the issue. We can say they're saving up for when Derrick is 100%, but we don't really know that they'll go all-in when he is up to par.

It's all about the white sox to jerry

 

[Glorified G]

They don't look like they're faking it. Moral victory.

"We're going for 9th."

 

[SoulPlaya]

Making big moves in FA is not a good idea when the cornerstone of your team is going to be out for pretty much the entire season. If you can trade Rip for cap relief and decide not to match Asik you'll have breathing room next year to sign a decent player. You'll also get a better pick in the draft then you would have if you had decided to match Asik and sign someone like Mayo.

They're not going to trade Rip. The draft pick they get will still be trash as they're going to make the playoffs anyway. They won't have capspace, regardless, and you're not going to find a better SG next year than Mayo and Lee that the Bulls could get.

Bulls Management has never shown willingness to go above and beyond to put together a contender. They had the chance last year, and all we got was Rip Hamilton. That's the issue. We can say they're saving up for when Derrick is 100%, but we don't really know that they'll go all-in when he is up to par.

Exactly. It's silly now to expect the Bulls to do something that they've never done.

It's all about the white sox to jerry

Yup. The man has made it very clear that the Bulls mean nothing to him, when compared to the White Sox.