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2012 NBA Playoffs |OT2| OKC VS LA: Black on Black Crime

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People say that LeBron is a genetic freak but man, Durant with that length and height...to be that agile...he's an inch shorter than guys like Bynum/Gasol.

Such a shame that Odom didn't live up to his potential during his time in the league.

He had the exact same thing, size wise...he could have been a motherfucking BEAST.



I'm making my team mates better.

Durant isn't a genetic freak, he is just better at shooting and dribbling than 99.99% of the people who are his height. LeBron on the other hand hit the lottery when it came to DNA. Big, strong, fast you name it.

I'm actually more impressed with Durant, since LeBron could of half ass it his entire life and still probably would have made it into the NBA or the NFL.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Just saw Kobe's post game comments. That shit is pathetic. Evidently the concept of accountability is far too beneath him to even consider. What a god damn dick.
 

diehard

Fleer
Daggered Phx Twice. Daggered Indy. Daggered Spurs at least one time I distinctly remember.

None of those include just closing out games up 3+ or FTs to dagger, etc.

So not right. But I'm sure Durant will get there in his career. And of course title teams usually don't need many daggers since they're up a bunch. But Utah wouldn't know about that.

He's 4-15 on shots less than 24 seconds to take the lead in playoffs games.
 

diehard

Fleer
Daggered Phx Twice. Daggered Indy. Daggered Spurs at least one time I distinctly remember.

None of those include just closing out games up 3+ or FTs to dagger, etc.

So not right. But I'm sure Durant will get there in his career. And of course title teams usually don't need many daggers since they're up a bunch. But Utah wouldn't know about that.

He's 4-15 (28.5%) on shots less than 24 seconds to take the lead in playoffs games and 10-34 (29%) to tie or take lead in the last minute of playoff games.

to give this some frame of reference, Lebron is 4-8 and 10-20.

Kobe Bryant being clutch is a myth and a lie.
 
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Lakers culture
 

Shadow780

Member
Triangle Gasol was awesome, Game 6 Denver couple years ago was a masterpiece.

He'll be missed when no one is between asshole Kobe and childish Bynum.
 

LuchaShaq

Banned
He's 4-15 on shots less than 24 seconds to take the lead in playoffs games.

Hey man don't bring those nerdy bitch stats into this, kobe is clutch yo.



It's the excuse that people conjure up in their minds when things don't go as they would like them to.

Does the NBA have horribly imbalanced calling at times? Yes

Do certain officials have tendencies over others? Yes

Is the league as a whole rigged? You tell me. The Dallas Mavericks beat the Miami Heat in 6. David Stern hates Mark Cuban.


I should have clarified my post.

I've watched enough basketball to know the NBA isn't rigged, if it was rigged Stern would have bribed Pop/RC Buford to leave to a bigger market and the Spurs would have been getting fucked by the refs hardcore for a decade+

Yet when in two games Kobe gets 10+ fts from cleanly blocked/defended jumpers, and harden gets fouls for literally nothing, and Durant can get his ass thrown on the ground when he goes to the rim hard without fts, I no longer have the ability to defend the NBA against people who see this as clear "rigged" evidence.

Hell I wanted both LA teams to hold home court just so we would get more games, but these past two games officiating wise have been shameful.
 
hmmmmmm wonder if the Lakers had emOdom would this series be different


lol troy murphy, Kapono and many others are just gone in the offseason



Mitch gonna get double check D:
 

Shadow780

Member
Kapono is already gone with Luke.

They probably gonna trade Pau, amnesty Artest, and ride Kobe into the sunset until he rage quit again or hangs it up.
 

LuchaShaq

Banned
Only way an East team wins the title is if they merge 2-3 of the teams mid playoffs and even then I'm not sure they'd be heavy favorites.
 
chris palmer ‏@ESPNChrisPalmer
Pacers go up 3-1 today.

I'm glad we're going to split the series after today

He preceded those posts with "I expect a fully engaged Wade and LeBron to drop 36/12/7".....and we still lose? lol
 

Derrick01

Banned
Honestly i question the glasses the most in that picture

Yeah I don't like how all these guys are trying to make those cool now. When I was a kid and had to start wearing glasses I had to do everything I could to avoid getting those but there wasn't many other choices back then (late 80s-1990). You'd get your ass kicked where I grew up for wearing those, and at the very least you'd be picked on relentlessly. And now it's "cool"
I still think they look fucking stupid
 
I don't not root for the heat, I root against them. Big difference.

You're not really rooting against the Heat. You're rooting against players you don't want to see win.

I don't think "team hate" really exists in basketball. It sure as hell exists in football though....I don't care who is on the Jets, I dislike all of them and want to see them fail miserably.


Yet when in two games Kobe gets 10+ fts from cleanly blocked/defended jumpers, and harden gets fouls for literally nothing, and Durant can get his ass thrown on the ground when he goes to the rim hard without fts, I no longer have the ability to defend the NBA against people who see this as clear "rigged" evidence.

I would say most of the people I know in real life who call "rigged" don't watch until the playoffs, so I almost never take them seriously
 
You're not really rooting against the Heat. You're rooting against players you don't want to see win.

I don't think "team hate" really exists in basketball. It sure as hell exists in football though....I don't care who is on the Jets, I dislike all of them and want to see them fail miserably.




I would say most of the people I know in real life who call "rigged" don't watch until the playoffs, so I almost never take them seriously

I am rooting against the Heat thanks to Bron, Wade, Bosh, and the bandwaggon fans. I will root against the Heat, pay witch doctors to curse them, perform rain dances against them, and pray for their annual playoff demise until they repent, trade their trio douce squad, and start over.
 
I am rooting against the Heat thanks to Bron, Wade, Bosh, and the bandwaggon fans. I will root against the Heat, pay witch doctors to curse them, perform rain dances against them, and pray for their annual playoff demise until they repent, trade their trio douce squad, and start over.

I hope you die
in Diablo 3
 
I never thought I'd be defending Kobe Bryant but did Pau Gasol even try to establish himself in the post that game? Did the tired Bynum look like he was even trying to get positioning against the fronting Collison or when Perkins was pushing him around?

It's not a one way street people. Kobe's not great not because he takes those shots but because he couldn't make them.
 
Durant isn't a genetic freak, he is just better at shooting and dribbling than 99.99% of the people who are his height. LeBron on the other hand hit the lottery when it came to DNA. Big, strong, fast you name it.

I'm actually more impressed with Durant, since LeBron could of half ass it his entire life and still probably would have made it into the NBA or the NFL.

Durant looks like a giant WNBA player with a dudes head. He looks like he should be tripping all over himself and yet he just can effortlessly move his body around and those tentacles can swing up so smooth and sooo sweet.

I never thought I'd be defending Kobe Bryant but did Pau Gasol even try to establish himself in the post that game? Did the tired Bynum look like he was even trying to get positioning against the fronting Collison or when Perkins was pushing him around?

It's not a one way street people. Kobe's not great not because he takes those shots but because he couldn't make them.

I watched the 4th quarter again this morning and Bynum looks gassed as hell. At no point does he try to get position off of Perkins and reach for the ball, instead he reaches for it with the Thunder cutting off the passing lane which is going to lead to a triple teamed Bynum you invariably bricks it. That and no one on the Lakers was trying to spread the floor. Blake actually attempted to get thing rolling again on the little flick to the hoop but its just wouldn't happen

Kobes performance in game 2&4 is why I laugh at anyone making MJ comparisons.

For how smart Kobe is he seems to do some truly dumb shit more and more lately. I know MJ wasn't perfect but the guy always knew when to take over and when to sit back and get the team involved. Funny enough I think Durant is much more like MJ in that regard than Kobe.
 

charsace

Member
Heat apologists are hilarious. Since the Heat formed the big 3 the game plan has been, "everyone else on the team, get out of the way and let us get our numbers." And so when Bosh goes down they expect the Heat to play team ball like the Spurs? lol.

This is what happens when you have two superstars where their role on the team is, "do whatever you want to get your numbers." Bosh is the only one out of the big 3 that has a defined role on the team. Its been years and both Lebron and Wade are stuck in the pre-Phil Jackson era Jordan in how they play.

Jordan was putting up 30, 8, 8 at times and defending all over the court like Lebron. Then Phil Jackson came in and made him realize that you can't build a team if the rest of the team isn't made accountable, isn't called on to do something that contributes to the winning. It why Pippen and Grant went from being Varejo and Mo Williams to being who they are; Pippen and Grant. People forget how Pippen and Grant used to get bitched up by the Pistons while Jordan was putting up numbers that would make Lebron wet, the bulls were still losing. Then the bulls gambled and brought in an unknown guy in Phil, and he turned the organization on its head. He challenged everyone on the team. He gave Pippen more responsibility than any other coach would have. He took the ball out of Jordan's hand and challenged him to play within a team structure. He gave Pippen the job of running the offense when people in chicago hated him and wanted him gone. He made Grant into the tough, hard nosed, double-double beast. He made them into a 3 peat team.

People, especially heat fans and Lebron apologists, like to pretend that the bulls were alway good. That Pippen and Grant were always great players known for toughness. That Paxson was always known for his clutch shooting. That Cartwright wasn't a knicks cast off who lost his job and role to a young phenom named Ewing and a hard nosed Oakley. They like to pretend that the bulls weren't a team that people thought was soft. That they only had one player that most people said was selfish, and more concerned about flash and stats than winning titles. Most people only remember the end product of the bulls, not that they were a loser franchise that was Clippers level bad.

Lebron needs to accept a role on the team and stick to it. So does Wade. Instead of hogging the ball and trying to do everything, and in doing so not allowing the team to blossom into something good. They take responsibility away from the guys they play with and now they expect those same guys to do more on the drop of a hat? That's not going to happen. And this is why Lebron will never win. He makes the team suck on his tit, but when things are hard he wants to pull it away and make them grow up over night. At least when Jordan was going ham he did a better job of it and was always determined to win, no matter who he played or how hard things got. When things get hard Lebron wilts and starts being his team to do things they didn't have to do during the regular season.

The idea that players step up when their team needs them is bullshit. The guys that appear to be stepping up are just doing the roles that they have been prepared to do. Grant wasn't stepping up for the bulls he was doing the role he was trained for. Horry didn't step up for the Rockets, Lakers or Spurs, he performed the role he was prepared for. Danny Green isn't stepping up, draining 3's, playing defense and running offensive sets because he stepping up, its because Pop has been training him to do this since the spurs got him. And the funny thing is Green was one of those "scrubs" Lebron had to "endure" in Cleveland. I bet Lebron would kill to have him now.

Lebron will never win as long as he's Lebron "The Chosen Once," "King" James.
 
Heat apologists are hilarious. Since the Heat formed the big 3 the game plan has been, "everyone else on the team, get out of the way and let us get our numbers." And so when Bosh goes down they expect the Heat to play team ball like the Spurs? lol.

This is what happens when you have two superstars where their role on the team is, "do whatever you want to get your numbers." Bosh is the only one out of the big 3 that has a defined role on the team. Its been years and both Lebron and Wade are stuck in the pre-Phil Jackson era Jordan in how they play.

Jordan was putting up 30, 8, 8 at times and defending all over the court like Lebron. Then Phil Jackson came in and made him realize that you can't build a team if the rest of the team isn't made accountable, isn't called on to do something that contributes to the winning. It why Pippen and Grant went from being Varejo and Mo Williams to being who they are; Pippen and Grant. People forget how Pippen and Grant used to get bitched up by the Pistons while Jordan was putting up numbers that would make Lebron wet, the bulls were still losing. Then the bulls gambled and brought in an unknown guy in Phil, and he turned the organization on its head. He challenged everyone on the team. He gave Pippen more responsibility than any other coach would have. He took the ball out of Jordan's hand and challenged him to play within a team structure. He gave Pippen the job of running the offense when people in chicago hated him and wanted him gone. He made Grant into the tough, hard nosed, double-double beast. He made them into a 3 peat team.

People, especially heat fans and Lebron apologists, like to pretend that the bulls were alway good. That Pippen and Grant were always great players known for toughness. That Paxson was always known for his clutch shooting. That Cartwright wasn't a knicks cast off who lost his job and role to a young phenom named Ewing and a hard nosed Oakley. They like to pretend that the bulls weren't a team that people thought was soft. That they only had one player that most people said was selfish, and more concerned about flash and stats than winning titles. Most people only remember the end product of the bulls, not that they were a loser franchise that was Clippers level bad.

Lebron needs to accept a role on the team and stick to it. So does Wade. Instead of hogging the ball and trying to do everything, and in doing so not allowing the team to blossom into something good. They take responsibility away from the guys they play with and now they expect those same guys to do more on the drop of a hat? That's not going to happen. And this is why Lebron will never win. He makes the team suck on his tit, but when things are hard he wants to pull it away and make them grow up over night. At least when Jordan was going ham he did a better job of it and was always determined to win, no matter who he played or how hard things got. When things get hard Lebron wilts and starts being his team to do things they didn't have to do during the regular season.

The idea that players step up when their team needs them is bullshit. The guys that appear to be stepping up are just doing the roles that they have been prepared to do. Grant wasn't stepping up for the bulls he was doing the role he was trained for. Horry didn't step up for the Rockets, Lakers or Spurs, he performed the role he was prepared for. Danny Green isn't stepping up, draining 3's, playing defense and running offensive sets because he stepping up, its because Pop has been training him to do this since the spurs got him. And the funny thing is Green was one of those "scrubs" Lebron had to "endure" in Cleveland. I bet Lebron would kill to have him now.

Lebron will never win as long as he's Lebron "The Chosen Once," "King" James.

Man, I need a cigarette after reading this masterpiece and I dont even smoke.
 

diehard

Fleer
Daggered Phx Twice. Daggered Indy. Daggered Spurs at least one time I distinctly remember.

None of those include just closing out games up 3+ or FTs to dagger, etc.

So not right. But I'm sure Durant will get there in his career. And of course title teams usually don't need many daggers since they're up a bunch. But Utah wouldn't know about that.

He's 4-15 (28.5%) on shots less than 24 seconds to take the lead in playoffs games and 10-34 (29%) to tie or take lead in the last minute of playoff games. That's since 2000 so its missing some airballs.

to give this some frame of reference, Lebron is 4-8 and 10-20.

Kobe Bryant being clutch is a myth and a lie that parents told little Laker fans to help them sleep at night.
 
Fucking beautiful chars

beautiful

Perfectly articulates my number 1 criticism of Bron

And, in my opinion, Tim Duncan's best trait (even more than his rebounding, defense, etc)
 

PBY

Banned
Heat apologists are hilarious. Since the Heat formed the big 3 the game plan has been, "everyone else on the team, get out of the way and let us get our numbers." And so when Bosh goes down they expect the Heat to play team ball like the Spurs? lol.

This is what happens when you have two superstars where their role on the team is, "do whatever you want to get your numbers." Bosh is the only one out of the big 3 that has a defined role on the team. Its been years and both Lebron and Wade are stuck in the pre-Phil Jackson era Jordan in how they play.

Jordan was putting up 30, 8, 8 at times and defending all over the court like Lebron. Then Phil Jackson came in and made him realize that you can't build a team if the rest of the team isn't made accountable, isn't called on to do something that contributes to the winning. It why Pippen and Grant went from being Varejo and Mo Williams to being who they are; Pippen and Grant. People forget how Pippen and Grant used to get bitched up by the Pistons while Jordan was putting up numbers that would make Lebron wet, the bulls were still losing. Then the bulls gambled and brought in an unknown guy in Phil, and he turned the organization on its head. He challenged everyone on the team. He gave Pippen more responsibility than any other coach would have. He took the ball out of Jordan's hand and challenged him to play within a team structure. He gave Pippen the job of running the offense when people in chicago hated him and wanted him gone. He made Grant into the tough, hard nosed, double-double beast. He made them into a 3 peat team.

People, especially heat fans and Lebron apologists, like to pretend that the bulls were alway good. That Pippen and Grant were always great players known for toughness. That Paxson was always known for his clutch shooting. That Cartwright wasn't a knicks cast off who lost his job and role to a young phenom named Ewing and a hard nosed Oakley. They like to pretend that the bulls weren't a team that people thought was soft. That they only had one player that most people said was selfish, and more concerned about flash and stats than winning titles. Most people only remember the end product of the bulls, not that they were a loser franchise that was Clippers level bad.

Lebron needs to accept a role on the team and stick to it. So does Wade. Instead of hogging the ball and trying to do everything, and in doing so not allowing the team to blossom into something good. They take responsibility away from the guys they play with and now they expect those same guys to do more on the drop of a hat? That's not going to happen. And this is why Lebron will never win. He makes the team suck on his tit, but when things are hard he wants to pull it away and make them grow up over night. At least when Jordan was going ham he did a better job of it and was always determined to win, no matter who he played or how hard things got. When things get hard Lebron wilts and starts being his team to do things they didn't have to do during the regular season.

The idea that players step up when their team needs them is bullshit. The guys that appear to be stepping up are just doing the roles that they have been prepared to do. Grant wasn't stepping up for the bulls he was doing the role he was trained for. Horry didn't step up for the Rockets, Lakers or Spurs, he performed the role he was prepared for. Danny Green isn't stepping up, draining 3's, playing defense and running offensive sets because he stepping up, its because Pop has been training him to do this since the spurs got him. And the funny thing is Green was one of those "scrubs" Lebron had to "endure" in Cleveland. I bet Lebron would kill to have him now.

Lebron will never win as long as he's Lebron "The Chosen Once," "King" James.

wtf is this shit? ugh.
 
The hilarious thing is that this is only happening because Hunter is like the lover that was left at the altar

Although I do agree with this bit


Lebron needs to accept a role on the team and stick to it. So does Wade. Instead of hogging the ball and trying to do everything, and in doing so not allowing the team to blossom into something good.

but this?

The idea that players step up when their team needs them is bullshit. The guys that appear to be stepping up are just doing the roles that they have been prepared to do.

All we're asking Mike Miller and Shane Battier to do is hit shots that have never been more open for them in their career and they can't hit it. They've been doing the same shit their whole career. You telling me they weren't prepared to do that? They simply just suck at it right now.
 

PBY

Banned
That....that was great Chars.

Wow.


Fucking beautiful chars

beautiful

Perfectly articulates my number 1 criticism of Bron

And, in my opinion, Tim Duncan's best trait (even more than his rebounding, defense, etc)

Man, I need a cigarette after reading this masterpiece and I dont even smoke.

Damn Chars..More stuff clicked into place for me reading those 3 paragraphs than any article on the Heat this year. Well done.

All of you are better than this.
 

charsace

Member
I am shocked by everybody else's response.

It's surprising how people don't realize Hunter's deal by now




that's pretty much it

Pheeniks it about time you did me a favor and shut the fuck up. I'm not writing this because I'm a mad knicks fan. I'm writing this because I feel its the truth. If you don't like just say you don't like and tell me to shut the fuck up. Don't claim I have so sort of agenda.

The big 3 came out and were vain as fuck. "We gonna win 8 titles!!!" They lose today and they are on their way to another season without a title for the second straight year. Someone might end up traded and the big 3 will be a huge failed experiment that people will talk about years from now.
 
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