Yeah. They're one really good piece away. Imagine if they could snipe Kyrie with all the shenanigans going on in Cleveland.
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2013-14 NBA Oct-Nov Season |OT| They can't hide the championship banners Forever
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Yeah. They're one really good piece away. Imagine if they could snipe Kyrie with all the shenanigans going on in Cleveland.
Lakers should cut him so he can retire a Sun
Dmncnby2k9
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Dont forget Jefferson's co-pilot, John Lucas III.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Mayo doesn't know how to pass the ball and he's content with shooting jump shots and threes. Ellis actually drives to the basket and has been passing well. He also gets to the free throw line way more.
I still think Dallas is a player away from contending and they'll have to trade Marion and/or Carter to get another solid player. Those guys are just too old. Dirk is apparently going to take a massive pay cut when his contract runs out so they can make a run at a solid starter in free agency.
I just realized that Dirk has a great chance of passing both KG and Reggie Miller in all time scoring this season. That is incredible.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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If you take a guy with negative win shares and or a 5 PER or less as a non-NBA player, the Jazz have given 46% of their minutes this year to non-NBA players 
Hayward, Favors, Kanter, Mike Harris, and Marvin are the only guys with NBA caliber numbers this year :/
Maybe the most dispiriting thing though is that the starters have gotten just killed so far this year. The Jazz are getting outscored by 18 points per 100 possessions with Favors, Kanter, or Hayward on the court...
The offense will probably pick up once we have an NBA caliber PG running things and the defense can be good once Favors gets more consistently engaged on defense but that will probably only happen if the rest of his teammates don't suck at defense as well and so far this year they have.
Hayward, Favors, Kanter, Mike Harris, and Marvin are the only guys with NBA caliber numbers this year :/
Maybe the most dispiriting thing though is that the starters have gotten just killed so far this year. The Jazz are getting outscored by 18 points per 100 possessions with Favors, Kanter, or Hayward on the court...
The offense will probably pick up once we have an NBA caliber PG running things and the defense can be good once Favors gets more consistently engaged on defense but that will probably only happen if the rest of his teammates don't suck at defense as well and so far this year they have.
Future PhaZe
Member
smh
leonsis is a huge pussy
one thing people don't realize is that all of Walls growth has come under arguably the worst coaching staffs. Flip was trash even with veterans let alone in a rebuild situation, and Wittman is clearly one of the worst NBA coaches in the league right now.
ThisWreckage
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Is it true that one of Kyrie Irving's teammates broke his nose? Seems like that entire team is on the verge of imploding.
Seriously if you can just wait for 2k15. The more I find out the more disturbed I am, being forced to play every single my player game is a pain in the ass
On top of that my team just got beaten like 67-138; even though it says I am in the rotation for 15 minutes now I was out there for 40. and the other starters like Monroe and jennings played 46....in a 71 point blowout. WHY?!?!?!?!
You mean Raptor.
Gucci Messiah
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Dion Waiters did not punch him, he got that shiner from being elbowed in the face by Corey Brewer. Teams have player-only meetings all the time, the story was overblown.
The team isn't imploding, it's November.
Christ.
I think your team has to really be aggressive this year via trades. Dirk has been incredible this season and he isn't getting any younger. I say keep marion and vince, you need that vet experience more in the playoff and use picks instead if you have any.
As someone who always thought lin was severely overrated dude is making me eat crow so far.
18-5, 50% fg 44% 3p fg. Not an all star pg but certainly worthy of that 2nd tier of guys like conley/Hill/etc if he steps up the defense.
With Comic Sans ownership and Mike freaking Brown as your leadership the cavs are constantly imploding. The only thing to prevent that would be the best player of his generation to make up for their lack of competence. Kyrie needs to form an exit plan ASAP and ditch that shithole of an organization/city.
18-5, 50% fg 44% 3p fg. Not an all star pg but certainly worthy of that 2nd tier of guys like conley/Hill/etc if he steps up the defense.
With Comic Sans ownership and Mike freaking Brown as your leadership the cavs are constantly imploding. The only thing to prevent that would be the best player of his generation to make up for their lack of competence. Kyrie needs to form an exit plan ASAP and ditch that shithole of an organization/city.
http://dailythunder.com/2013/11/kd-shimmies-westbrook-crosses-and-okc-hangs-on-115-113-over-denver/Daily Thunder said:
Bennett is a dick.
Gucci Messiah
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This x1000%
I swear a monkey could run this organization better.
I've already gone over why Mike Brown isn't the problem and am not going to constantly revisit that topic; if you want to ignore facts and place an unreasonable amount of blame on the coach then go ahead.
Too bad Kyrie isn't leaving for a loooong time. It's nice to want things.
Avon Barksdale
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And people really think LeBron is going back to Cleveland after this season. :jnc
stretch 4 in bennett
superstar pg in kyrie
up and coming player in dion waiters
elite rebounder tristan thompson
endless energy anderson varejao
how could one say no?
You forgot the 2 time NBA champion.
Red Blaster
Member
I was half-watching, but DT is pretty fair and reliable (even if they are homers).
iamshadowlark
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Lebron's wife is opening up a store pretty soon in Miami(if it ain't open already) to join Lebron and his clothing/shoe store that he opened a while ago.
And apparently he's in talk with David Beckham to bring a soccer team to southbeach.
Www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1620...s-talking-mls-franchise-david-beckham?cc=4716
I don't know the extent of his stores or whatever in Ohio, but he seems to be getting pretty comfortable here. #IJS
Gucci Messiah
Banned
LeBron isn't coming back. I'm a Cavs fan and I sure as hell wouldn't leave South Beach for Cleveland.
lol at Nash not having an injury risk
kevo_huevo
Member
Ellis has been a revelation, and I can't wait for Larkin to get more minutes. I liked Larkin's quote "If you don't know what you're doing out there, get the ball to Dirk." He gets it.
At this point, Matrix has the most value, but I could argue he is too essential for the mavs to part ways with. Still a good-to-great two-way player, and he's shooting 43% on 3s right now (tied with Dirk). I would get rid of Carter...I kind of wish we still had Corey Brewer though.
Yeah, he should pass KG in about 7 games or so based on current averages, and he might even jump up from 16-12th if he can average 19+ pts/game for about 60 games.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Would be dumb with his injury history.
John Wall got the max.
Gucci Messiah
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Agreed, he isn't going anywhere for a while. It would be unprecedented.
Didn't stop him from going first....
How many times did lakers fans aks themselves the same question? Kobe can't win without him.
Future PhaZe
Member
He'd get max even with a torn ACL next year.
Team success usually doesn't affect guys this early in their careers enough for them to take a QO though.
Team success usually doesn't affect guys this early in their careers enough for them to take a QO though.
Utter incompetence from the ownership and FO could though.
The Cavs don't appear to be any better than they were when he was drafted, and their draft picks besides him have sucked.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Cavs draft history....is.....
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Tristan Thompson is alright.
jordan0386
Member
If they were on tv camera facing side, Of course they had to take them off.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
But unrestricted he'd only get 60 for 4 no? He'd be leaving 20 mill off the table.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Why don't we let Waiters play through his second season in the NBA before calling him below average.
From now on, when Ibaka puts up a strong double double, or gets a crucial offensive board, or hits a big shot, I'll just shut up.
Because apparently I'm just betraying my subliminal grief over the Harden trade anytime I talk positively about him.
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I think Kyrie is unlikely to bolt after his rookie deal just because it's so early in his career and the money is so much, but the fact that we're even discussing it as a possibility is embarrassing for the Cavs as a franchise.
I just want you to see the light and realize that Ibaka is nothing more than JJ Hickson with a huge contract.
What about all of those times we discuss Durant leaving? Isn't that embarrassing, too? It's just fan and journalist conjecture because everyone wants to believe that the best players want to play somewhere sunnier.
Well, good to hear the former President is not completely useless.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Lin is number 2 among point guards in TS% and 4th in the league in points per FGA.
Going to the all star game this year!