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2013-14 NBA Oct-Nov Season |OT| They can't hide the championship banners Forever
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Benjamin1981
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Just woke up. I can't believe this is happening. Rose should have been our franchise player for 10 years plus. If he is out for the season again, it's time to blow this team up and tank hard, because this team without him is in NBA hell aka too good to miss the playoffs, too bad to win anything.
Forget this guy's knee and think of his state of mind. He has a season that was so great he eclipsed LeBron for the MVP, like some fantasy story, his team is a legit contender. Then he goes down and misses a whole year, faces criticism from some people for not coming back for the play offs.
He comes back this season and...he is not as good, but its okay, he has rust naturally and needs 30+ games under his belt to get back to NBA shape.
And the worst thing is that this happened all on its own, no other player was involved, no "accident" from a third party was the reason for this, his knee just gave out, surrendered
What kind of confidence, if any, is he even going to have when he eventually does come back? On his own body?
Its hard to feel sorry for millionaire athletes, but in this case, its justified. What a shitty situation
He comes back this season and...he is not as good, but its okay, he has rust naturally and needs 30+ games under his belt to get back to NBA shape.
And the worst thing is that this happened all on its own, no other player was involved, no "accident" from a third party was the reason for this, his knee just gave out, surrendered
What kind of confidence, if any, is he even going to have when he eventually does come back? On his own body?
Its hard to feel sorry for millionaire athletes, but in this case, its justified. What a shitty situation
cuevas. PhD.
Member
FUCK
I think they will start this off-season with not give extension to Deng and release Thibs.
Dominican Power
Member
LeBron had a better season. Rose's team was just better than The Heat in the regular season that year.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
We just need a 1-2 draft with the bobcats pick in 2016 to get going again
CherryWoodFuton
Member
#prayfordrose
Fuck injuries for real
Fuck injuries for real
ThisWreckage
Banned
I'm wishing the Bulls and Rose the very best. If he's out for the season again then they have no choice but to blow that team up.
Marauder Shields
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If Rose is out for the season ideally the Bulls would tank from here, but they're just not set up to do so. Too much talent on the team atm.
ThisWreckage
Banned
That's incorrect. They could trade away many of their players for draft picks and expiring contracts. That way they have a major youth movement within the franchise and a lot of cash to work with. Noah would especially be sought after.
My condolences if it makes you feel better you guys are still in a better situation than the Knicks...
IHaveCandy
Banned
What are the chances Monta Ellis makes the All Star Game this year?
Why we must had another Brandon Roy scenario
Nah it's really not. Rose will never be the MVP player he was unfortunately
, no way you come back on two busted ACLs... he'll now have lost 2 full years, and who knows when he comes back from this one, could be 3. That being said, Brandon Roy lost the meniscus in his knees, which is far worse, if he kept playing he wouldn't have even been able to walk without a replacement.IHaveCandy
Banned
Wait I thought there's nothing yet confirming Rose's knee is torn yet.
curlyfriski
Banned
If healthy, Kobe, Westbrook, CP3, Harden, Parker, and Curry would all definitely be ahead of him. So pretty low.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Which is exactly why the all star game voting is broken. Kobe should not be an all star this year. He's the all star of rehabbing and that's it.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Parker? You gotta put him at least in front of Parker. Hell, I'd put him in front of Harden so far this season. And Kobe shouldn't be making it at all!
lol whut
curlyfriski
Banned
Meh it's meant as a fan-pleaser and it's better with the big names.
Yeah I think we're going to disagree greatly on the level of Ellis. And "so far this season" doesn't mean much 11 games in.
IHaveCandy
Banned
What else is the ALl Star Game meant to be about besides this season?
curlyfriski
Banned
11 games does not a season make. It's unlikely that Ellis will keep up his hot shooting.
IHaveCandy
Banned
He's not shooting at an obscene clip or something. He's just getting much better looks in this offense. For the sake of argument, let's say he keeps pace more or less at what he's averaging now. What then?
curlyfriski
Banned
He won't make the all star game unless there's a bunch of injuries because, regardless if you think he's better, those other guys are considered better by the people who select all stars.
Parker is still better.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Well which is it? Is it because he doesn't deserve a spot because his excellent playing will decline or because he doesn't deserve it regardless if it stays at that level?
curlyfriski
Banned
Regardless. Unless bullshit media narratives come into play like they did with the Rose mvp (i.e. he's finally started playing the "right" way).
IHaveCandy
Banned
Do you think he isnt playing the right way or has been playing the right way all along?
curlyfriski
Banned
I think he isn't good enough to be an all star at guard in the west. That's it.
ThisWreckage
Banned
It's also unlikely that Kobe is going to come back as strong as he was given the severity of his injury so if we're playing that game he shouldn't make it either.
The all star game has completely lost me as an NBA fan because the top dogs won't compete in the dunk contest out of hubris or being fearful of getting injured. When Mo Williams was an all star that really soured me. The popularity contest voting is flawed.
Marauder Shields
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Which of the Bulls players do you think would net a draft pick for this coming draft? Deng certainly isn't since he's expiring (unless the other GM is Billy King). Boozer is not that great an asset and Butler is still largely unproven. Noah is the only potential one, and even then the pick would be heavily protected. Noah is another player who has dealt with constant health issues. No one is giving up a good draft pick for this upcoming draft.
Ugh people crying to get no Williams that replacement slot was the worst. Motherfucker wasn't even a top ten pg just a decent shooter benefitting from lebron beasting.
Popularity contest voting is barely worse than "media" voters half of which frankly don't watch many games outside if their home team. That is how we get the Nash/rose mvps, and a makeup MVP for Kobe in a year he didn't even deserve it when he should have already had 1-2. Motherfuckers care more about the story than the reality.
At least stuff like Lin or Kobe making the all star team this year no one will argue it's right.
Marauder Shields
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Different scenario tbh. Roy's degenerative knee issues were known before he was drafted, which is partly why he went lower than his talent warranted. His knees were always a ticking time bomb.
Psychological Intellect
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What an awful night for basketball.
Rose
Rose
Diprosalic
Banned
i'm sorry bulls fans.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Yeah? But now Rose could also be a ticking time bomb... dont really see the difference
It's like Jay Williams II
Allstar game is a fan service to feature players that fans want to watch. Popularity contest voting is the perfect method. Getting upset because certain players don't make a meaningless exhibition game is silly.
Look I feel bad for the guy to, but that was nothing but media backlash for the decision, and Rose being a better story than the other guys besides lebron who deserved it more that year like Dwight.
Awards matter greatly in a historical context.
In 2070 you think any motherfucker is going to watch a bunch of Rose MVP season games or just assume the award was given competent and wasn't a flaming joke?
edit: Didn't watch shit last night because I was busy, IGGY AND MARC TOO FUCK THAT. Two of the most entertaining players in the fucking league right there god fuck fuck
I was talking about the allstar game, not MVP.
Marauder Shields
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Well what I mean is that coming into the league Roy's knees were always going to wear down at some point. The only question was when.
Re; Rose I don't think he's had a history of knee injuries prior to busting his ACL in 2012? Plus this is a different knee to the one he injured previously.
victreeb3l
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Just heard about D Rose. Thats absolutely horrible news.
Friday was indeed horrible for basketball. Ugh
Friday was indeed horrible for basketball. Ugh
I think it's a conspiracy by all the coaches in the league to tell Kobe to continue not try on defense.
I mean, no way the coaches can be that dumb, right?
The Maverick
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Chicago is probably going to have to break things up. Deng was already on the block. Boozer is an amnesty candidate. Noah can return some good value, and would be well suited to be on a team like the Pelicans, who can offer the Draft pick that Chicago would need. The Charlotte pick still exists.
The situation is bad, but they can still try to have one of the faster rebuilding efforts the league has seen. The Rose situation just hurts so much. Everything was riding on him.
The situation is bad, but they can still try to have one of the faster rebuilding efforts the league has seen. The Rose situation just hurts so much. Everything was riding on him.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Damn, Rose is the youngest MVP ever. He could have had multiple MVP awards.