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2013-14 NBA Oct-Nov Season |OT| They can't hide the championship banners Forever
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CreepingFear
Member
In order for the Bulls to tank, they'd have to fire Thibs and gut the team of the gritty players. It's not going to happen. They won't even play some of the younger players like Teague, Snell, and Murphy in order to tank. Nope. Here's hoping Mirotic is the next Nowitzki.
90TilInfinity
Member
Sad times. Almost definitely gonna have to blow it up if the scan comes back positive. =/
UnObtainium17
Member
If Rose will miss the rest of the season... I say warm up the tank and run it full throttle till the end of this season.. Keep thibs, trade booz and deng ASAP for picks or anything good. Then they will get a pretty high pick for 2014 draftl. Show up or tank so hard in 2014-15 season.. 2015-16 season = ??. then that 2016 horncats pick will be waiting.
They could let deng expire and amnesty booze, but why do that if a team s willing to give something for them.. Better than loose them for nothing and expect a big FA to sign with you.
They could let deng expire and amnesty booze, but why do that if a team s willing to give something for them.. Better than loose them for nothing and expect a big FA to sign with you.
This is exactly what I'm hoping for if Rose is really done. This is the best possible year to tank.
CreepingFear
Member
In my view, if Rose is out, everyone is expendable, even Noah. I love and will miss Noah, but with him being injury prone, you gotta get rid of him if you can get something decent.
As much as I like Rose as a person I felt like he was never going to be an actual great player even if he stayed healthy. He showed no real signs of improving his shot to a consistent level and he relied too much on his reckless style. They need to find a way to cut ties with him, even if it means a revolt from the fan base.
Ideally they should attempt to give the entire franchise to Lebron at the end of the year and then either ride out Boozer's contract or trade him if they can. Maybe convince the T-wolves to take his expiring contract for Love who doesn't want to stay there anyway. While I'm in fantasy land let's go back in time and pull 90s Jordan into this era and have him play SG.
Ideally they should attempt to give the entire franchise to Lebron at the end of the year and then either ride out Boozer's contract or trade him if they can. Maybe convince the T-wolves to take his expiring contract for Love who doesn't want to stay there anyway. While I'm in fantasy land let's go back in time and pull 90s Jordan into this era and have him play SG.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
So rumors are that Marc tore his MCL.
Hopefully it's something less severe but in terms of knee injuries, he might've dodged a bullet.
Hopefully it's something less severe but in terms of knee injuries, he might've dodged a bullet.
Grimm Fandango
Member
Fuck everything. Please be negative.
Yeah, the Bulls should trade the ONLY consistent player that they have.
BTW, relax, folks. Let the MRI results come in. Rose was able to walk to the bench.
Murphy can help this team real talk. Dude is Bonner + way more athletic.
Future PhaZe
Member
Really hoping results are negative
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I'm guessing it's torn. I hope you're right.
If it makes you feel better, you should read this article.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...1_trail-blazers-lamarcus-aldridge-consistency
friskykillface
Banned
marc best gasol got injured too? 
Pau is gonna return to the grizz next season, gasol bros B^)
everyone will always bring up that Thibs decision to leave Rose in when the game was over for Rose's entire career
Pau is gonna return to the grizz next season, gasol bros B^)
everyone will always bring up that Thibs decision to leave Rose in when the game was over for Rose's entire career
CreepingFear
Member
marc best gasol got injured too?
Pau is gonna return to the grizz next season, gasol bros B^)
everyone will always bring up that Thibs decision to leave Rose in when the game was over for Rose's entire career
Gasol brothers has as much of a chance as happening as the Vega Brothers movie.
reggieandTFE
Member
Boozer was real consistent with his -18 last night. Thibs benched him in the 4th because his and Noah's laziness caused the Blazer run.
Sit Noah a bunch so he is healthy next year for a change, trade Booze for a worse player on an expiring contract and a pick, trade deng for 50 cents on the dollar, and let Teague/Butler show how good or not good they are.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I agree with the guy above, mentally.. I don't know if Rose can come back from another ACL injury.
Dude took it the safe route, and hurts it just making a move. No contact, no push, not a jump.. just a move.
I don't know if he'll be able to trust his knee's again.
..but stop comparing it to Roy. Different thing altogether. Chris Paul's knees might be in a similar situation as Roy's were.. just not nearly as bad. It's a meniscus thing, not ACL.
The big thing with ACL's is how long it takes to re-hab, the risk of re-injury, and mentally being able to trust your knees. Roy never had to fear completely blowing the knee out at any given time, he just had to deal with pain and knowing it as doing damage long term. That's easier to overcome than the not knowing from the ACL.
Dude took it the safe route, and hurts it just making a move. No contact, no push, not a jump.. just a move.
I don't know if he'll be able to trust his knee's again.
..but stop comparing it to Roy. Different thing altogether. Chris Paul's knees might be in a similar situation as Roy's were.. just not nearly as bad. It's a meniscus thing, not ACL.
The big thing with ACL's is how long it takes to re-hab, the risk of re-injury, and mentally being able to trust your knees. Roy never had to fear completely blowing the knee out at any given time, he just had to deal with pain and knowing it as doing damage long term. That's easier to overcome than the not knowing from the ACL.
Boozer was -10 last night, not -18. Noah was -19.
Boozer had 16 ponts and 7 rebounds on 50% shooting in just 25 minutes.
In the end, though, he's the only one who actually contributes because he's the only one who actually plays in the games.
The Stealth Fox
Junior Member
The Pacers are freaking awesome. Scola doin work.
Yes but have you looked at the standings lately? All but 4 teams of the entire Eastern Conference are already tanking, and then you have the Jazz which is at a totally different level. You'd need to trade everyone in order to have a chance to catch up.
The thing is, who's going to trade when every team is either tanking or trying to avoid the luxury tax?
Sad thing is even without Rose the Bulls are probably the third best team in the east since the east is so shit. This would be especially true if they had kept NateRob as insurance instead of the corpse of Kirk Hinrich/the shitty teague brother.
At this point does Rose just rehab for another 12-18 months to get that paycheck, and then retire and be fondly remembered as really good but short career like Gale Sayers? Doubt there is much appeal to coming back and being so limited physically he is basically a rich man's Smush Parker.
At this point does Rose just rehab for another 12-18 months to get that paycheck, and then retire and be fondly remembered as really good but short career like Gale Sayers? Doubt there is much appeal to coming back and being so limited physically he is basically a rich man's Smush Parker.
Indeed.
Future PhaZe
Member
That's the worst part of all this. I don't know how he gets over it mentally because the first tear came from a routine jump stop and the second off a routine cut move? Fucking tragic.
His lateral movement is easily the fastest in the NBA and I'm guessing his knees couldn't hold up.
I'm sort of glad that Walls explosiveness is more straight line than side to side now I guess.
Black Mamba
Member
Could have been a lot worse. Not a rupture!
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Gasol has a Grade 2 MCL sprain and is out indefinitely so I guess it's not as bad as it could have been. Grizzlies should be okay with Koufos starting for a while.
Jazz are now last in offense and defense and it looks like Kanter being benched for Marvin Williams may continue, awesome.
Jazz are now last in offense and defense and it looks like Kanter being benched for Marvin Williams may continue, awesome.
Black Mamba
Member
Remember when people argued with me that Utah was better than lakers? Fun times.
I don't get how people thought that team could be competitive.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Did Rose follow the doctors' orders on all of his PT?
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
In other, happier news.
Kyle Korver's shotchart for the season:
Kyle Korver's shotchart for the season:
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Man I'm hoping rose just has a sprain or something
Dominican Power
Member
If I was the GM I would of fired Corbin. They're not playing for anything.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Jodie Meeks and Nick Young are 3rd and 4th in Win Shares on the Lakers so I'm going to continue to think that the team is going to win less than 24 games. At least they can hold claim to being this year's version of the 2013 Magic.
Hayward, Favors, Rush, and Kanter looked like a solid four guys to be able to play defense and be just bad and not terrible on offense with all the finishing at the rim and three point shooting they would have, but Hayward and Favors have been inconsistent as fuck, Kanter has been terrible and Rush hasn't played. I was thinking around 28-32 wins and I think we could get up to 20-22 once Favors and Kanter start playing harder with Burke there and with Corbin fired, but it's been pretty bleak.
The Jazz scored 1.049 PPP with Favors and Kanter playing last year and only gave up 1.027. This year, the Jazz are scoring 0.936 PPP and are allowing 1.147 PPP, that is a normal transition. Switching from +2.2 to -2.8 to having to play against starters would seem far more normal than going from very good against bench units to the worst pairing in the history of basketball against starters.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Well that's one down. Now lets hope both Rose and Iggy are similarly okayish.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Are we sure Kanter's good?
Hayward should have signed a deal but this season exposed him.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
It's really in question, but he was very good to end last year so I was expecting him to be good this year. I'm now worried that he just can't defend while playing heavy minutes because his physical tools and BBIQ are very bad, but it's still early.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
I don't think you can tank in the East. That's just the standard mode of operation for half the teams.