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Did Duhon ever make it past the three point line? Serious Question.
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2013 Jan NBA Season lOT| Beautiful Black Bodies on Top
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Did Duhon ever make it past the three point line? Serious Question.
You froze Kome out? He was 3/17 before he went on a flukey streak and Wade shitted on him all night long.
He was off today but all he was getting was long jumpers. They run nothing to free him up or make the game easier to him. Wade "shitted" on Kobe by getting great picks and exploding to the hoop vs. zero help defense. Miami actually makes the game easier for their stars. Kobe has to do it all himself most games...
ThisWreckage
Banned
Oh, poor Kobe. I will shed a single tear for the utter shit he plays alongside.
09 was his best season by far...
Kobe needs more help.
curlyfriski
Banned
Wade in '09 would have been MVP worthy if Lebron didn't have an all-time great season.
The Heat didn't even get out of the first round in the East.
Not help. He needs to be used as a true #1 option if we want to beat good teams. Where are his screens? His touches in the post? Where is the plan to feed him over and over till the D adjusts and not just when we are losing big?
maybe ginobli off the bench?
iamshadowlark
Banned
That sure has a whole hell of a lot to do with regular season MVP.
I'm just judging him by the standard people use to judge other MVPs.
Black Mamba
Member
You can see it in his game. He's declined enough that he wouldn't sniff MVP numbers again. And his body would break down trying to do it.
He's still a damn good player and can be great on many nights, but he's nowhere near that MVP level he once was. To be that, you have to be consistently superb with defenses keying in on you.
It's why Lebron, Durant, and CP3 are the only 3 players playing well enough to merit that (while I think Harden is 4th, he's a huge step behind them) and even then I think Lebron is one peg up on the other two.
If Lebron was in "coasting mode" like he was at times in Cleveland, Miami would look so much worse.
You just got fooled by some early season flukiness that happens every season. They were never going to make the playoff and would struggle to be at .500 even if Dirk played all year. The pieces around him are too weak.
Laker hater gonna hate! No surprise.
That said, you've been mostly wrong on the why. The Lakers problems have been health (the 4 still only played like 8 or 9 games together and Hill is done and Blake hasn't played in forever). Their biggest issue all season long has been offensive turnovers leading to easy transition buckets; their half-court defense has largely been okay. They're not a slow plodding team, they're top 5 in pace. Also, their 3 point shooting hasn't been bad. Yeah, they have a bad bench (we all knew that). Miami has also struggled on D this season (granted I think they're mostly coasting).
Lakers have their problems, but you've mostly got them wrong.
Also, Cloudy is a Kobe fan, not a Lakers fan.
branduil said:
You do realize Dirk won his MVP the year the Warriors bounced them out in the 1st round, right?
Of all people to make that argument, Brandi...
curlyfriski
Banned
And people said the same thing about Dirk. That if you get bounced in the first round you don't deserve MVP. And this was in the west where the playoffs are actually hard.
Wait a minute, KG was voted into the all star team? Seriously? How the fuck did Boston fans manage to vote in two starters, while Bulls fans couldn't even vote in one? Especially when Noah deserves it more than KG. This city really doesn't give a fuck about the Bulls.
Dominican Power
Member
He's gonna take it out on him on Friday.
WesternHeretic
Member
Which is quite odd since the Bears haven't done shit in a long ass times, the Cubs continue to stink, the WhiteSox have that one random title, and do you guys even care about football?
Bulls dominated an entire decade.. I guess still can't get no love.
Black Mamba
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You just argued Dirk shouldn't have been MVP.
I don't care what other people argue. You made your own argument that Wade didn't get out of the first round to invalidate his MVP campaign.
By making that argument, you are then arguing yourself, not others, that Dirk wasn't MVP when he won.
You're trying to pick and choose when that argument is valid. Can't have it that way.
I didn't make the rules, I'm just applying them.
This is a Bears city, completely. You have no idea. The Bears coaching search has dominated all sports talk. Anything they do is covered extensively. The Bulls are lucky to get 5 minutes a day. After that, I would say it's a tossup, but the Cubs get major coverage whenever anything happens, so they get priority over the Bulls. The problem with the Bulls, and no one brings this up, but this is a very racially segregated city. On the west and south sides, the Bulls do well, but those areas are poor, so they get ignored. Besides that, the only people who support them here are immigrants.
The Bulls sell out and make money, but they just don't get a lot of attention. They have a dedicated following, but that's it. To illustrate my point, a few years ago in a college class, I was talking about the Bulls and this kid behind me goes, "wait, people still watch basketball?" And people agreed with him.
Black Mamba
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So Dirk shouldn't been given that MVP?
That's what the people who make the rules tell me.
curlyfriski
Banned
The people who make the rules made the vote happen before the playoffs...
Black Mamba
Member
So from now on I can just assume any argument you make isn't your own but what is the consensus of other people or "rule makers?"
Well when it comes to MVP I have no choice...
I like how the first person he followed was Alex Morgan.
Herpes Reasons
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CherryWoodFuton
Member
Brandy hates the Heat and Wade so he's gonna invalidate their accomplishments regardless
Brandy hates everyone, including himself.
CherryWoodFuton
Member
Did that fucker even celebrate when the Mavs won?
iamshadowlark
Banned
I get so tired of hearing about the damn bears or packers from you Illinoians .I'm kind of glad they flamed out the playoffs.
JOBBER
http://thebasketballpost.com/2013/01/11/spurs-set-to-acquire-a-solid-big-man-in-aron-baynes.aspx
Another Aussie to play with Patty.
http://thebasketballpost.com/2013/01/11/spurs-set-to-acquire-a-solid-big-man-in-aron-baynes.aspx
Another Aussie to play with Patty.
He sure celebrated in the most cowardly way
I still wish the Heat won to see what that fake ass Mavs fan would have done
Future PhaZe
Member
Watching that Lakers game was unbearable. That offense is pick up basketball. Nobody knows where they are supposed to be, Dwight calls for the ball out of position, nobody can make an entry pass if their life depends on it...Terribad.
Btw the Princeton looked better. I'm not even sure that Pringles installed anything but shameball concepts.
People will laugh but all I was thinking while watching Nash was that I really am glad to have John Wall. Defense, the ability to create fast breaks, penetrate, etc, these are things no one on the lakers can do right now.
Pringles rotations were awful btw.
Btw the Princeton looked better. I'm not even sure that Pringles installed anything but shameball concepts.
People will laugh but all I was thinking while watching Nash was that I really am glad to have John Wall. Defense, the ability to create fast breaks, penetrate, etc, these are things no one on the lakers can do right now.
Pringles rotations were awful btw.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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It looks like John Henson might force Ekpe Udoh out of the Bucks' rotation.
Have to think the Spurs and Celtics are trying hard to get Udoh and that he might not be that hard to get soon.
Have to think the Spurs and Celtics are trying hard to get Udoh and that he might not be that hard to get soon.
THE MAC IS BACK
http://youtu.be/JlTg7l6Gv6Y
http://youtu.be/JlTg7l6Gv6Y
D'Antoni's offense is different from what he used to run when he first took over the Suns. He was way more flexible back then and he isn't now. And its killing his offense.
shira
Member
There is like hundreds of people watching.
Plus it would have been fun to see all those stretched white shirts celebrating the title from the stands
they're 4th in ppg, the offense is not the problem
Yep Nash is absolute trash and that trade looks worse and worse each day. No defense, horrific turnovers, reluctance to shoot even though he's a great shooter and zero penetration which is why we are stuck forcing the ball into Dwight in a predictable fashion.
I believe we win that game if he stayed on the bench in the 4th. His "defense" on Ray Allen was abysmal.
And probably dead last in turnovers. The offense is a BIG part of the problem
they're still scoring over 100ppg even with the turnovers
the problem is that they're allowing 102ppg
edit: they're 8th in turnovers but the difference between 8th and 27th is 1 turnover per 100 possesions so it doesnt mean much. they are 2nd in pace though but that makes sense since theyre not running the triangle anymore
Barack Lesnar
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Fluke loss. Not even going to make excuses b/c it was a fluke. To be in it till 40 secs left in the game despite your doofus center going 5 from 13 from the line and your team shitting out 20 TOs is pretty impressive, especially vs arguably the best team in the league. Not even stressing this one. My projections for this month are still on track.