Psychological Intellect
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OKC wouldn't have beat SAS without Harden turning into ezio.
and yea, our shooters can knock down wide open threes when they're wide the fuck open.
2013 Jan NBA Season lOT| Beautiful Black Bodies on Top
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and yea, our shooters can knock down wide open threes when they're wide the fuck open.
How many Laker fans in gaf were tramping finals? I'll give you heavy and cloudy
They have depth but in the half court they're weak. People want to try to say you can't trust Westbrook, i sure as hell ain't trusting Blake griffin.
Fenderputty
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It sounds like if this is the case then Dwight's chances of staying goes down quite a bit. Who normally wins in the player vs. coach arguments? Espiecially if they Lakers plan on making his bitchness the cornerstone of the future.
Pretty sure the Thunder had a higher Offensive Rating with WB/Harden/Durant on the court last year than with WB/Martin/Durant this year. In the playoffs, it was something ridiculous.
edit: Actually, it's 120 this year compared to a still insane 114 last year, but I doubt that has anything to do with switching out Harden with Martin and everything to do with Durant and Ibaka having career years.
Nudity is not the only inappropriate thing to look at work.
Psychological Intellect
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fuck, how was he so fucking huge? unstoppable. Looking at pics from the 90s to the 00s it's crazy how he just gets bigger and bigger. he was a monster.
LegendofJoe
Member
If the Buss family is dumb enough to bow down to Howard's wishes then Lakers age might as well embrace the decade of mediocrity that's coming to them. If you're not bright enough to learn from the mistakes of others you're doomed to make them yourself.
I.e. look at what happened with Dwight in Orlando.
I.e. look at what happened with Dwight in Orlando.
Only ever won 1 MVP trophy somehow
Psychological Intellect
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i don't know how anyone can compare dwight and Shaq. it's unfair. imagine if shaq could shoot FTs well.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
He was juicing back then
Liquidsnake
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Since I didn't get to see Dwight play everyday, I thought he was as advertised. Best center in the league.
Now that I have seen him play, I am supremely disappointed in him. His post skills are worse than Sacre's.
He turns the ball over 4 times a game.
Couldn't hit a free throw to save his life.
And his attitude sucks.
I would trade him, and get what ever I could. The front office tried, and I applaud them for at least trying.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Orlando gave out blank checks to every player on their roster.
Barack Lesnar
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Shaq's last 6-8 years hurt his legacy or if not legacy than his perception because they're the last thing people remember. It's not like with MJ who only had 2 years in DC. Shaq had 7 years way past his prime and it leave a taste in your mouth and you forget how unstoppable he really was.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/847/career;_ylt=AmHUuyFcY3ChhSMSrAwmdP4BPKB4
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/847/career;_ylt=AmHUuyFcY3ChhSMSrAwmdP4BPKB4
Jordan played two years in Washington...
Fenderputty
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So if given the choice of moving forwrad with either Dwight or D'antoni what do you chose? At least with D12 we have a trading piece. Letting both go or keeping D'antoni and letting Dwight go doesn't help us in the future.
LegendofJoe
Member
And look where that got them, the only person in that organization that demanded accountability was SVG, and he was fired for it.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Shit is an excellent word for describing your posts.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
LA is not ORL. Stop.
Firing Mike D for any reason is fine by me and if it's to please the guy who they hope to have locked up for the next 6-8 years, that's fine too.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Wow, ok...
LegendofJoe
Member
There are plenty of legitimate reason to move on from Dantoni, pleasing Dwight shouldn't be one of them though.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Firing a coach who is misusing the roster, which happens to make your star player mad...semantics.
Declaring that LA is heading towards oblivion if they start trying to please Dwight is melodramatic
That sounds exactly like Orlando.
Herpes Reasons
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d'antoni and dwight really can't coexist.
i'd wager d'antoni has a shorter grace period that dwight, atm.
at this point, dwight needs to demand the ball and start calling out players.
his attitude of mr BFF with everyone isn't wanted in la.
we want mr bad mofo dwight
MorisUkunRasik
Member
There's a world of difference between Orl FO during the Dwight years and LA's FO. Stop.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Nope.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
lakers are over what?? $30million in luxury tax?
potentially $128m in penalties by next season.
money will never be an issue for the buss family.
LegendofJoe
Member
Dwight is a whiny man child that changes his mind on a whim, and that's the guy you want to appease? Dwight isn't Kobe, he doesn't deserve that level of respect.
Especially with a broken back, not knowing if he'll be back to what he once was.
I think they bail on Dwight before D'antoni. They might not get a lot for Dwight but it'll be a face saving move for the organization. D'antoni seems more like the guy who'll try to fix it till he's fired.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
ORL made lots of dumb moves. They would be dumb if they weren't trying to please Dwight. When LA makes dumb moves to please dwight, we'll talk about this.
Fenderputty
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Maybe not this season, but one of them isn't here by the start of next season. If given a choice, keep the asset. What good does having clear books do us in two years if there's nothing to build around? We won't even get a pick from the draft this year since it's going to Phoenix as well.
Dwight would be stupid to continue to want to play for a man who hates bigs. One of them HAS to go.
Getting rid of D'antoni can never be considered dumb regardless of the reasons.
LegendofJoe
Member
If Dwight can't carry a competitive team anymore then yeah they need to move him, especially if they can get some quality picks for him.
Fenderputty
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When was the last time the Lakers built their team through the draft? Season ticket holders aren't going to settle for quality picks and an emtpy book in two years. Mitch has already sent out letters to season ticket holders asking them to be patient.
At the very least, adding Martin hasn't hurt the team much, if at all.
Defense.
LegendofJoe
Member
A season and a half is nothing, especially if it nets you your next player to build around. And considering the fact that you're the Lakers it more than likely will.
Black Mamba
Member
Dwight said the season starts tonight! I'm back in, baby!!!
Future PhaZe
Member
The problem with getting rid of D'Antoni is that there is maybe 1 or 2 name list of guys they can bring in that might be able to do better: Phil and Stan, both which seem like impossibilities at this point.
At this point you have to imagine that a full training camp and a fresh start + time to heal all the wounds is the only way to right the ship, not coaching.
Because at this point you can say they are bring misused, but in theory the Princeton with some triangle elements should have been fine, and then in theory a Nash inspired PNR offense should have been dominant as well.
None of it is working. It goes much deeper. I don't think it's a Pau thing, his mentality has brought them chips before and he's had ups and downs. I don't think it's a Kobe thing either. It seems like both Dwight AND Nash (who has been largely blameless) have developed buyers remorse in regards to their contracts.
You can say Nash is done, but he's giving no fucks out there and I've never seem him like this.
Lakers can get picks and have almost the whole cap to use for free agents in a couple of years. So they can get the best of both worlds if they want.
At this point you have to imagine that a full training camp and a fresh start + time to heal all the wounds is the only way to right the ship, not coaching.
Because at this point you can say they are bring misused, but in theory the Princeton with some triangle elements should have been fine, and then in theory a Nash inspired PNR offense should have been dominant as well.
None of it is working. It goes much deeper. I don't think it's a Pau thing, his mentality has brought them chips before and he's had ups and downs. I don't think it's a Kobe thing either. It seems like both Dwight AND Nash (who has been largely blameless) have developed buyers remorse in regards to their contracts.
You can say Nash is done, but he's giving no fucks out there and I've never seem him like this.
Lakers can get picks and have almost the whole cap to use for free agents in a couple of years. So they can get the best of both worlds if they want.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
did he really?
fuck it, im all in. leggo.
im riding this train off a cliff or the the promised land.
i believe that's the 5th time this season that has been said
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me for the 5th time....
Black Mamba
Member
Sloan would hate coaching Howard. JVG was the best option but the whole brother thing ruined that.
Dwight Howard took accountability for his role in the Los Angeles Lakers' struggles on Wednesday.
"I think this will be the start of a new season tonight," said Howard. "Our effort and energy will be better. It starts with me."
The Lakers play at the Memphis Grizzlies and have lost three straight.
Howard also apologized for his comments about his lack of shot attempts.
Howard said he needs to be "more of a player out there on the court and not worry about anything, not complain."
Howard declined to talk about his future with the franchise.
"We're not discussing that. Right now, our goal is to win. All I want to do is win."
Future PhaZe
Member
Lol
Between D'Antoni's "hey buddy just sending you a text to make sure you're doin ok" mentality to coaching and Mike Browns " live free" system, Dwights already sweating bullets and can't take the heat.
Throw in a coach who actually treats him like a grown ass man and he would have demanded a trade a week ago.
So basically if they keep losing, he's gone.
Fenderputty
Banned
Whether or not you (or anyone really) consider this to be a good thing, Lakers fans aren't going to pay for high tickets prices two season in a row on the hope that we get a good draft player to build around.
I guess you can call them fair-weather fans, but it's precisely that fickle attitude that has led to our management being willing to spend to bring in stars.
When you make a statement that, “it’s only a year and a half” you do so from another perspective. Firstly, the last two years were considered failures here in LA. Its part of the reason Mike B was fired too. So in reality, having to wait another year and a half is more like 4 years for Laker fans. Another year of building this new team would be 5.
If management is serious about keeping Dwight then D’antoni is gone. If they’re serious about trading Dwight, I highly doubt it would be for picks. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think history would support my belief.
I think our continued stuggles are a given at this point. This team is what it is. If the Lakers keep Dwight it's probably going to be on the back of future plans to win a champiopnship. Keeping D'antoni isn't going to fit into Dwights vision of that future.