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[Black Mamba]

Mambadamas


Probably get Lee and something.

I called it!

I was joking about Green but I figured Ainge wants to try to right this before he blows it up. No Rondo and Calderon available?

Works but it's a bit tough to get salaries working.

Detroit might be in the mix according to Stein. Throwing in Maggette for Calderon works. As is Tayshaun + filler.

 

[Emwitus]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources say Dallas is other prime landing spot for Calderon, but I'm told Mavs reluctant to part with SF that Grizz want: Vince Carter

This has gotta be some sick joke.

 

[KingGondo]

i'd be fucking thrilled if danny got calderon and only gave up jeff green. YES PLEASE.

But Jeff Gomes is so talented and awesome.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Trash being thrown around like a fucking hurricane.

 

[pilonv1]

This has gotta be some sick joke.

This is the best trade in history. Shit parts for shit parts and Jose Calderon.

 

[Flash]

This isn't that bad of a trade if a pick isn't included...essential Davis for Gay since we ewre gonna lose Calderon this off season anyways.

the thing that makes me hate it is Bargnani is going to start. again. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK

LMFAO dallas. VC? really???

also, if Dallas get Calderon for VC, it is crazy how Dallas would be getting more value for the corpse of VC than the raptors got for near prime level VC. this fucking franchise.

 

[KingGondo]

If Dallas is really reticent to take on a huge upgrade at PG because they don't want to let go of Wince...

Oh my, the :lols.

 

[Black Mamba]

The Memphis Grizzlies and Toronto Raptors have agreed in principle on a trade that will send leading scorer Rudy Gay to the Raptors, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Grizzlies will acquire forward Ed Davis and veteran guard Jose Calderon from the Raptors and then move Calderon on to a third team to ultimately make this a three-team deal.

The Detroit Pistons, sources said, are one of the prime options to take on Calderon, having pursued the Spanish floor leader all season.

The Grizzlies want a small forward out of the trade and Detroit has two on its roster in the final year of their contract: Tayshaun Prince and Corey Maggette. But Memphis, sources said, is talking to at least one other team about taking on Calderon and is expected to receive a second-round pick from Toronto as part of the deal.

The Raptors, sources said, are expected to take on Grizzlies reserve center Hamed Haddadi in addition to Gay.

The Dallas Mavericks are the other most likely landing spot for Calderon, but sources said Dallas is resistant to parting with Vince Carter, Memphis' prime target on the Mavs' roster.

Raptors agree to get Gay.

edit: hadaddi going to Raptors too.

 

[Nobility]

Colangelo continues to crumble the Raptors.

When is his contract up? Who cares, MLSE will just resign him anyways.

Walking through the darkness here.

 

[kevo_huevo]

wtf donnie/mark?!?! ship wince's ass out!

 

[Omega]

Ellis
Derozen
Gay
Green
Bargs

Just imagine it if you will. Close your eyes. Embrace it.

what the

how does amir johnson and jonas help the bucks?

i dont understand how they come to these conclusions sometimes.

 

[Red Blaster]

fucking rhudy ghey mahn

 

[KingGondo]

Raptors agree to get Gay.

I never thought a Gay would be embraced in the South, I guess I was right.

 

[Flash]

what the

how does amir johnson and jonas help the bucks?

i dont understand how they come to these conclusions sometimes.

cause they lose ellis. lmao

i think ellis alone drops the raptors by 6 less wins

 

[LegendofJoe]

Are BC/one of his family members and Bargs sleeping together? Serious question.

 

[jjasper]

None of that stuff makes any sense. Why the fuck would be trade for Vince. And why the hell would Dallas say no.

 

[darkside31337]

None of that stuff makes any sense. Why the fuck would be trade for Vince. And why the hell would Dallas say no.

They don't want to take back salary. Simple enough.

 

[Vire]

fucking rhudy ghey mahn

:lol

Amazing.

 

[KingGondo]

Memphis officials spent day calling around to do background on Detroit's Tayshaun Prince, sources tell Y!

Prince covering KD, and Tony Allen on YNB...

*shits pants*

 

[Branduil]

Any time you can keep Wince Carter you gotta do it.

 

[darkside31337]

Prince covering KD, and Tony Allen on YNB...

*shits pants*

Yeah but the Thunder will only need to score 75 points to win.

 

[Black Mamba]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Memphis officials spent day calling around to do background on Detroit's Tayshaun Prince, sources tell Y!

Isn't Prince done?

Memphis should be trying to get Marion. I would think of them as title contenders with marion

 

[Emwitus]

Isn't gay integral to this memphis team? Or i'm missing something here?

 

[Omega]

cause they lose ellis. lmao

i think ellis alone drops the raptors by 6 less wins

is he really that bad? i've never watched him.

i ought everyone just exaggerated.

 

[Black Mamba]

is he really that bad? i've never watched him.

i ought everyone just exaggerated.

He is the Bargnani of shooting guards.


I don't see how Dallas is involved with Carter, anyway. They'd still have to ship off a bunch of contracts.

Marion makes sense. But that would also hurt Dallas though shed a year of salary. Not sure why Dallas doesn't just give the season up but man Marion on Memphis for Gay would be scary.

 

[kevo_huevo]

He is the Bargnani of shooting guards.


I don't see how Dallas is involved with Carter, anyway. They'd still have to ship off a bunch of contracts.

Marion makes sense. But that would also hurt Dallas though shed a year of salary. Not sure why Dallas doesn't just give the season up but man Marion on Memphis for Gay would be scary.

speculation is they would send kaman as well. and get calderon/davis

 

[Kave_Man]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8898673/sources-memphis-grizzlies-agree-principle-trade-rudy-gay-toronto-raptors

The Grizzlies want a small forward out of the trade and Detroit has two believed to be available: Tayshaun Prince and Corey Maggette. But Memphis, sources said, is talking to at least one other team about taking on Calderon and is expected to receive a second-round pick from Toronto as part of the deal.

Is Colangelo allergic to drafting?

 

[Black Mamba]

speculation is they would send kaman as well. and get calderon/davis

Carter and Kaman? lol that would be dumb for Memphis.

 

[MetalFearSolid]

Raptors getting Gay, book the 8th seed for them

Spoiler

....next year

 

[Brinbe]

Fuck it, I'm excited for Gay. Love Ed, but he's replaceable (tons of 4s in this league) and won't miss Jose at all.

Lowry/Ross/Gay/Amir/Val

Still solid to me. Dump DeMar/Bargs and the rest of the garbage.

 

[The Frankman]

I never thought a Gay would be embraced in the South, I guess I was right.

Gotta fill that Gay void somehow.

 

[Flash]

Fuck it, I'm excited for Gay. Love Ed, but he's replaceable and won't miss Jose.

Lowry/Ross/Gay/Amir/Val

still solid to me. Dump DeMar/Bargs and the rest of the garbage.

lol you know we'll never trade bargnani

and no one is gonna take on Derozan's contract

 

[Srsly]

Vince Carter has actually been the best player for Dallas this year, check his on/off numbers. Dallas consistently blows leads when he rests. He doesn't take dumb shots, is a very good spot up shooter, can go into the post, is rarely out of position on defense and is the best 1-on-1 defender on the Mavs.

 

[Kave_Man]

Fuck it, I'm excited for Gay. Love Ed, but he's replaceable (tons of 4s in this league) and won't miss Jose at all.

Lowry/Ross/Gay/Amir/Val

Still solid to me. Dump DeMar/Bargs and the rest of the garbage.

I'm just more perturbed by what direction this team is going in.

Yes Rudy Gay is the superior player here but is he someone that makes us THAT much better?

We're not bad enough to be a high lottery team, but we're also not good enough to be a lock for playoffs. We're in that shit middle zone where we don't make playoffs nor do we even get good draft picks.

 

[Brinbe]

lol you know we'll never trade bargnani

and no one is gonna take on Derozan's contract

I can always hope, but you're probably right. And DeMar must have some value around the league. Though I think he'll fit in better alongside Gay at least.

And fuck if I care if it's a bad contract. We've already lived with bad contracts, but at least I know Rudy's at least a solid and exciting player.

Doesn't at all absolve BC for his shit GMing though. He still needs to go.

 

[The Frankman]

Vince Carter has actually been the best player for Dallas this year, check his on/off numbers. Dallas consistently blows leads when he rests. He doesn't take dumb shots-

... wat?

Branduil/StickSolider/Pristine_Condition, response?

 

[Flash]

I can always hope, but you're probably right. And DeMar must have some value around the league. Though I think he'll fit in better alongside Gay at least.

And fuck if I care if it's a bad contract. We've already lived with bad contracts, but at least I know Rudy's at least a solid and exciting player.

Doesn't at all absolve BC for his shit GMing though. He still needs to go.

derozan and gay don't really fit well together. If they could push derozan out and make ross a starter I think it'll work better.

but my main gripe with this trade is that BC's golden boy is gonna start again. smfh.

 

[kevo_huevo]

... wat?

Branduil/StickSolider/Pristine_Condition, response?

imma have to disagree. the non-national games ive streamed watched, he shoots first, asks questions later. and he takes a lot of ill-advised 3s.

 

[Anth0ny]

colangelo you fuck

we're supposed to be tanking for wiggins

 

[jjasper]

Prince and Daye. Not terrible.

Edit: Ha told mrs jjasper we traded gay and Hadaddi. Her response "aww I'm gonna miss Hadaddi"

 

[Black Mamba]

ESPNSteinLine: Pistons poised to send both Tayshaun Prince & Austin Daye to Grizzlies to acquire Jose Calderon as part of Rudy Gay deal

So Davis also to Memphis with hadidi + Gay in Toronto.


Prince can still hit the 3 but doesn't do much else on offense. Then again he's been on a shit team so who knows.

Wonder if he can still play D.

 

[Flash]

Prince and Daye. Not terrible.

eh, prince is done lol. I think calderon wouldve been more useful to you guys.

oh well

 

[Brinbe]

derozan and gay don't really fit well together. If they could push derozan out and make ross a starter I think it'll work better.

but my main gripe with this trade is that BC's golden boy is gonna start again. smfh.

Ross is for sure a better fit but Rudy has legit size and can at least create for himself and hit a 3-pt shot.

And I'm not too worried about Bargs. His awfulness has already been exposed and he's been shopped around. The problem (apart from his injury) is there probably hasn't been too many interested takers.

I'm just more perturbed by what direction this team is going in.

Yes Rudy Gay is the superior player here but is he someone that makes us THAT much better?

We're not bad enough to be a high lottery team, but we're also not good enough to be a lock for playoffs. We're in that shit middle zone where we don't make playoffs nor do we even get good draft picks.

There's no real reason to be that upset because, yes, he could be. SF is a real shallow position in this league now and we've obtained an above-average one, filling a real hole on this team that's arguably existed since Garbo broke his leg.

And we did it by selling high on Davis (who is awesome) and dealing an expiring in Jose. We already have Lowry and Amir, so it's no real loss. We didn't deal Ross or Val. It's a win in my book.

 

[Srsly]

imma have to disagree. the non-national games ive streamed watched, he shoots first, asks questions later. and he takes a lot of ill-advised 3s.

His TS% is 56% and his 3pt% is 38% -- he is taking very few bad shots. It's amazing how much perception clouds judgement.

 

[Dominican Power]

From Toronto to Detroit, ouch.

 

[MidnightCowboy]

So Memphis has Arthur and Davis now. They'll trade Zbo sometime next year I bet.

 

[DY_nasty]

Isn't gay integral to this memphis team? Or i'm missing something here?

Absolutely

 

[Kave_Man]

Ross is for sure a better fit but Rudy has legit size and can at least create for himself and hit a 3-pt shot.

And I'm not too worried about Bargs. His awfulness has already been exposed and he's been shopped around. The problem (apart from his injury) is there probably hasn't been too many interested takers.


There's no real reason to be that upset because, yes, he could be. SF is a real shallow position in this league now and we've obtained an above-average one, filling a real hole on this team that's arguably existed since Garbo broke his leg.

And we did it by selling high on Davis (who is awesome) and dealing an expiring in Jose. We already have Lowry and Amir, so it's no real loss. We didn't deal Ross or Val. It's a win in my book.

We'll see. If not I am gonna beat your ass at whenever the next meetup is.

 

[Kobe24]

So, I guess Jose Calderon isn't forever? If you flip his 8 sideways it makes an infinity symbol.

Wince Harder?

 

[Omzz]

So glad getting rid of Calderon. Now just find a way to get rid of Bargs even though he has shit trade value.