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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
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Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
A bit of a mystery and he has already got a promise from a team later in the first. Physically he looks like he could be something great but he is young. Pistons, and Boston GM's have personally gone there to see him and most scouts compare him to Nicolas Batum but more ball dominant. So a team that could use a starter level player at the 3 but realize that they will have to buy him out his contract to train him or let him develop overseas some more.
With all that said I could see the Sun's, Spurs, Timberwolves, and Knicks draft this kid if he is available when they pick due to needs, and/or emphasis on european scouting.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
That's a textbook backhanded compliment.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I need to watch a couple more of his games, but I'm not really impressed by his offense. He's 6'10 and can dribble, but he's a bad shooter and finisher and I don't think you can be that good offensively with those qualities.
Defensively, he's really long and seems decently intelligent so I guess he could become a pretty good defender and could eventually be a starter.
He's one of the most inefficient gunners in the NBA and I doubt that level of play is something Hinkie will be interested in.
Inefficient? Yes
Gunner? No.
If he had even a couple of competent scorers on the squad he wouldn't have to jack up so many mediocre shots.
Would holiday take 16 shots a game if Bynum was healthy?
Would holiday take 16 shots a game if the sixers didn't have one of the worst sets of wings in the league?
I doubt it for both.
I'm not saying he will bust out a 50/40/90, but circumstances like this often inform stats.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
His ORtg hasn't hit 100 in the last two years. He's considered a great scorer by many around the league, but his advanced metrics for scoring are terrible so I don't think a team lead by a stats guy now will be interested in keeping him when they could probably get a quality piece for a guy they probably don't value at all. He's less efficient than Monta Ellis and barely more efficient than Rudy Gay, he's too abysmal at drawing fouls to be efficient.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Thanks. Which team promised him then...
Could he fit well with the Clips?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I think the Clippers need more shooting than he can provide, but he has a better chance of being a good player than most of the other guys at the end of the first-round (unless Withey slips to that area)
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
no one knows... which could also make it a ploy... I can think of a few players who got taken earlier than they should have based on them having a "promise" from another team. So no one knows but ItWasMeantToBe19 is right this is a weird draft... After the few Big names at forward. those promising centers and PG's get taken the draft begins to look bleak at about 20 (which is normal but deep down this whole draft is bleak) so I could see a team anywhere after that taking a runner on potential from overseas.
Knux-Future
Banned
He is also the only one worth anything...Nobody wants our garbage
Burke will be good. I hope the Blazers trade up for Oladipo or Burke. With picks 39, 40, and 45 - I think they do something.
Shabazz will probably be alright. Would love for Portland to get him and one of the above.
Rudy Gobert's measurements :-O
Whichever team gets Andre Roberson in the 2nd round wins. I think Miami is selecting Arsalan Kazemi.
Shabazz will probably be alright. Would love for Portland to get him and one of the above.
Rudy Gobert's measurements :-O
Whichever team gets Andre Roberson in the 2nd round wins. I think Miami is selecting Arsalan Kazemi.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
why would the blazers need another PG?
Adam Blade
WWKC
Fair enough. If the rumors about VDN getting an extension are true...
/wrist
Yeah. I don't think the Clips have had a late first rounder in a long time, so this is a bit weird having to research fringe prospects.
CreepingFear
Member
Welcome Knicks fans.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
fuck Stern and his biased refs
The Knicks got to trade novak.... not because he sucks but DNP in the playoffs for 4 million a year is a bad contract.
The Knicks got to trade novak.... not because he sucks but DNP in the playoffs for 4 million a year is a bad contract.
Syphon Filter
Member
sup guys, finally here.
The Last Wizard
Member
Sigh...
First time here
First time here
Knux-Future
Banned
Welcome Knick Loserbros.
Future PhaZe
Member
Whatever, just draft Len
Guess its worth it if he becomes Hibbert
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Guess its worth it if he becomes Hibbert
6 year development cycle
join me
I thought I was the only Biedrins fan here
The Frankman
Banned
*sigh* I been posting here for over a week.
bring on the draft.
bring on the draft.
victreeb3l
Member
hello everyone
*sigh*
hope ason kidd retires
*sigh*
hope ason kidd retires
The Frankman
Banned
I posted this in the Playoffs thread and I'll say it again
Coach Kidd plz.
Coach Kidd plz.
I thought you knew me better than that pilonv.
sf2fanatic
Member
Shabazz gonna be a another YNB. Average in the one year in college and then turn out decent...
CreepingFear
Member
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic, but if not...
Actually, their offensive break down was pretty predictable given Anthony and JR's history of iso basketball, taking bad 23 fade away footers. Tyson Chandler has never really been a scorer, Jason Kidd is 100 years old. Even their god damn rookie is 35(to be fair, he's pretty good). Everyone knew the Knicks were taking a risk with Amare and his micro fracture knee, Knicks took a chance and it blew up in their face.
The Knicks join the Bulls and many other teams in the NBA in what's called basketball hell. Basketball hell is when you are good enough to win 50+ games, but end up losing in the playoffs every year because of teams like the Heat. Every team was in basketball hell during the Jordan Championship years, Kobe/Shaq etc. Basketball hell also includes being maxed out salary cap wise so you can't sign free agents, being too good to get a decent draft pick, as well as having players/contracts like Boozer/Amare,Deng that no one wants to trade for.
Seems like we're multiplying then
I cheered every time I saw Biedrins this year. I really don't like how little they utilized him. After his double double years, we went through coaching changes and they decided "Hey this guy? Fuck him we are going to neglect his game and wear him down to nothing."
(Future PhaZe
Member
victreeb3l
Member
my biggest disappointment was tyson disappearing. He was definitely not healthy and nowhere near 100% that he kept telling everyone. But knicks overall aside from shump, prigs and felton were fairly meh this post season.
Im eager to see what moves the knicks make in the offseason. Im not sure how i feel about JR but i hope we can still keep prigs and copeland. If shump can consistently make those 3s and cut and finish at the rim better maybe he can even be the 2nd or 3rd scoring option. Im excited to see him progress and be 100% hopefully next season.
I like our starters and maybe next year if most of em stay they will have better chemistry.
trab pu kcip
Member
No, he really isn't. Dude is a 2/3 tweener. If he plays the 3 he would be able to use his strength to over power people. To play the 3 he would need to add more muscle for his game to work, but I think that would hurt his quickness. At the 2 he lacks the quickness to defend it and the lack of quickness and ballhandling would hurt him on offense. Howland opened up the offense this year and Shabazz still looked bad. ANd on top of all this the guy seems to be an asshole. Whoever drafts him is gonna be disappointed.
I want the Knicks to grab Myck Kabango.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
man Tyson was injured. its too obvious how much his ability fell off after he suffered his herniated disk in his back. I'm not mad at his 15 million and I believe he will come in next season stronger and with something to prove.
I think the knicks need to add another starter in my opinion at the 3/4 and get Tyson a legitimate center as his back up (steisma maybe since I hear the wolves are planning to let him go anyway for nothing) After that if they can move any combination of Kidd, Camby, and Novak is just a plus. I've said it before 2015 is now the rebuild date they should spend that time building a winning culture and finding a better playoff identity.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
haaha, steisma is terrrrriible.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
as a backup for 2 mill a year I don't care
That's overpaying by 3 million
hell yeah!
What is that object he is resting his hand on?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Kelly Olynyk's back.
trab pu kcip
Member
yes. I think he's looking for his phone.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
for a PG I am really impressed with Larkin..... In my mind he had the best chance to climb the draft board into the lottery
I really hope he leaves. Not because I wouldn't want him on the lakers, cause boy can play. D'antoni deserves to tank for wiggins.
embiggen (your losses) for wiggins