iamshadowlark
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its a sign man..
also
Good god this would be the greatest team ever. Marbury/Francis * 2.
Melo, Bargs, Monta, JR, and STAT. lol
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its a sign man..
also
Good god this would be the greatest team ever. Marbury/Francis * 2.
Melo, Bargs, Monta, JR, and STAT. lol
Basileus777
Member
The Monta to the Knicks thing doesn't even make any sense. They can't receive players in a sign and trade, and who thinks it'd be in character for Ellis to take the 3.1 million tax payer MLE?
Charlie Angel
Member
Did JR say he would re-sign with the Knicks?
LegendofJoe
Member
I refuse to believe we're serious about signing Jefferson. We're probably just doing our due diligence to see what we'd have to spend to get someone of his quality while at the same time looking like we're trying to get better to our fans.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Depending on how they gel, any team but Miami should be beatable..
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Those are the main questions man. Last time it all went wrong this time....the potential if it all going wrong is there pi once again. If the Knicks are smart they won't make a big deal of one FA until they figure out who is likely to bounce.... Like kyrie might be the best FA of that year but he is a lot more likely to stay than say a Kevin love or an alderidge.....
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Lol yeah they do bruh.... GAF just getting caught in media hype. That team is primed for disaster and everyone knows it
Is Kidd really the coach to manage these guys? KG is going to listen to Kidd?
The team will need to "gel", and by the time they do, Pierce and KG will retire
They wont be better than the young and defense minded Pacers, they wont be better than the Bulls if Rose even plays 70% of his former self and they likely wont be better than the Knicks, even with that hilarious Bargs trade.
4th - 5th seed, crash in first or second round of playoffs at best. They might beat Philly or whoever they get matched up against and then get rocked
The team will need to "gel", and by the time they do, Pierce and KG will retire
They wont be better than the young and defense minded Pacers, they wont be better than the Bulls if Rose even plays 70% of his former self and they likely wont be better than the Knicks, even with that hilarious Bargs trade.
4th - 5th seed, crash in first or second round of playoffs at best. They might beat Philly or whoever they get matched up against and then get rocked
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Also Masud made a good point that pick was tied to Denver anyway.... If the Knicks had a bad year Denver would just swap picks with them anyhow.... Barg can come in and play 2nd/3rd option behind Melo or JR (or Monta that I don't even know how that works unless he really wants to go for it). Then come 2015 I think Knicks are OD positioned cap wise to go after that year FA's.
Woah Woah Woah.
Hang on guy.
no need to go shooting everyone you see.
Actually, our new GM is doing wonders by not doing Anything.
He only has to make sure to get a few picks for Gortat with out fucking up our long term cap, and i'll call him a genius.
If he can somehow move beasley as part of that trade then even better.
If our roster for most of the year is Dragic, Goodwin, Tucker/dudley, Morris, Len then i'll be ok with that. There are guys there that are going to need time to develop fully if the'yre going to develop at all.
shira
Member
Lol you don't know pasta very well. If he isn't forced to shoot 30 shots a game he just disappears.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Doesn't matter still a cap move bruh. Dat Hibbert/ alderidge/ melo/ shump/ Felton future brohiem.
obijkenobi
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Haha
Caleb Saenz ‏@calebjsaenz 7h Spurs' free agency pitch will just be that clip of Duncan laughing at Dwight on repeat as Pop cranks Metallica's Black Album at full volume.
Caleb Saenz ‏@calebjsaenz 7h Spurs' free agency pitch will just be that clip of Duncan laughing at Dwight on repeat as Pop cranks Metallica's Black Album at full volume.
LegendofJoe
Member
Nice, I hope the Spurs can land someone good in free agency. Tyreke would be interesting. I doubt SA would be willing to pay him what other teams will likely offer though. Al Jefferson might be a good fit too, especially if Pop could get him to play defense.
CreepingFear
Member
The Bulls are doing absolutely nothing this summer and will still be better than the Knicks and Nets next season.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Dallas just signed their point guard of the future for three years.
Dwight will surely come now.
Dwight will surely come now.
captmcblack
Member
MONTA ELLIS
I WENT TO SLEEP AND IT GOT WORSE
I QUIT
I WENT TO SLEEP AND IT GOT WORSE
I QUIT
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I don't even know how that deal works mathematically.... Unless he really is tired of playing for bad teams.... Until Wojina says anything I don't believe it.
Also stay strong bruh Knicks are going to have crazy money in 2 years
Imagine hibbert and kwahi Leonard next to Melo and shump and Felton or if Kyrie opts out Knicks will likely be the top destination....
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
I went to bed and Flip met with Budinger. He got my letters.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Dumars: "Here's a whole fucking lot of money."
Smoove: "I'm intrigued by your ideas."
captmcblack
Member
I have no faith that we will ever get the undisputed best FA in any FA class. It's always going to be a compromise. We're gonna get the injured guy, or the 1-dimensional guy, or the guy that's left over because we can't stack the deck perfectly or offer no tax or something. The only way we're ever going to have a real, legit chance is to get lucky and draft our own guy...but we keep trading picks for fun as a tax to the rest of the league on trades, so we're never going to do that.
Even if we somehow managed to get Monta Ellis for the MLE...that Felton/Ellis/Melo/Bargnani/Chandler starting lineup is just LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. I hope that this is all going to lead to some shrewd 2-max contract attack in 2015, but what is that going to mean for the next two years?
Future PhaZe
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LegendofJoe
Member
I'm starting to think Monroe might be on the move, otherwise yeah Dumars is retarded. He couldn't possibly come up with a frontcourt that meshes any worse.
Would you rather the Pistons spend the money they have on a worse player? It's not like free agents are falling all over themselves to go to Detroit.
Knux-Future
Banned
a lot of teams are fucking up their tanks.
If the bobacts sign Al they are a much lower pick. Detroit trying to win now and shit. Toronto getting rid of Bargs (they were soo much better without him...lol).
good....All I need is Orlando to get out of the way and we are in there.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I feel you on the free agency deal but 2010 the Knicks had no core besides role players who couldn't even make it to the playoffs. This time is different the knicks will have melo, and a playoff ready team. Plus the knicks will have more money than anyone else (in theory Miami is some devious motherfuckers). Also 2015 is a great FA class it has depth at the big and pg spots.
Like after I calmed down and sobered up and looked at this deal again... Its a book keeping deal and Bargnani if healthy could contribute. I been saying Knicks need to look to 2015 as a way to escape being a middle of the road team and taking bargnani is unfortunately just another method to do it.
Lastly that was denvers pick if the Knicks sucked in 2016 anyway. Of the rebuild works come 2016 that pick is in the 25-30 range so its not the worse.
Red Blaster
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when jameer inevitably gets hurt and et moore is starting at point guard you have no chance
Future PhaZe
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They've lucked out on getting franchise caliber talent at less than favorable drafting positions. You don't fuck up their development by maxing out a guy who plays one of their positions.
I would rather spend the money on Iggy. They need playmaking in a bad way.
2014 unprotected and whoever else is on our roster other than Otto, Beal and Wall.
Get it done EG.
No faith in Oladipo?
Yeah, Iggy might be a good move for them. Is he a free agent? Didn't realize that.
2014 Wiz unprotected? You're drinking the kool-aid from the month and a half after Wall came back too hard. I'm not saying we have a shot at Wiggins, unless some key players get injured, but I bet we get a shot at a good player.
Ugh, sorry for the double post.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Bobcats were more like a 17 win team than a 21 win team last year (going by differential) and I'm near certain that Al isn't more than a 7 win player even on a bad team so they'd still be in the hunt.
LegendofJoe
Member
We aren't signing Al Jefferson. It's Hendo and if not Josh McRoberts then it'll be someone on his tier.
Red Blaster
Member
not to run/create offense his rookie year
magic point guard play will be the worst in the league, truthfact
Future PhaZe
Member
I don't know that any of those prospects would be better than Monroe or Drummond though.
And lets say top 3 protected then.
Lakers will give them a run for their money. Or do they still have Nash?
Top 3 protected makes sense for the Wiz but it stops making sense for the Pistons. I see what you're saying though. I just think the Wiz are too close to another complete tank season.
Knux-Future
Banned
Future PhaZe
Member
Are you excited for Turner unleashed?
Knux-Future
Banned
Turner isn't long for this world/team.
I expect him to be gone soon.
it would be nice to keep him tho.
He is no longer going to be "held back" by Doug/Iggy/Jrue.
I could also see him having a "look at dem stats" type season on shit %s.
Turner at the very least is a great tank player.
Thad needs to go tho...can't have all that effort and fucks being given.
Red Blaster
Member
jameer is so moribund that it's like not having a point guard
LegendofJoe
Member
Detroit is highly likely to send their pick to us this year. If they sign Smith it would make a ton of sense to trade Monroe for a 2014 pick.
Future PhaZe
Member
This current situation is perfect for him though. He can go back to his college days of playing LeBron ball and there's nobody in line to take that job from him.
I just checked and the only members of that 2009 Finals teams still on the Magic are Jameer and Turkoglu
I'm not sure what that means, if anything.
I do remember everyone insanely overrating both of them at the time though.