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[Pimpwerx]

"Kobe, Pau, Nash? Nah. What'll really put us over the top is Jose Calderon."

Yeah...somehow I don't see that sentence being uttered by anyone. PEACE.

 

[pilonv1]

Peter Vecsey ‏@PeterVecsey1 3m

From what I'm told, should Howard decide on GST, & LA is unwilling 2 sign-trade, it has teams willing 2 assume salaries of AB, Biedrins & RJ

OH SHIT

 

[Forever]

OH SHIT

THE PLOT THICKENS

 

[Omega]

I feel like Dwight is going to troll everyone and pick some random ass team that hasn't even been in the discussion

 

[Starphoenix]

I feel like Dwight is going to troll everyone and pick some random ass team that hasn't even been in the discussion

Luckily he'll never come to SA. He should go to the Cavaliers, just for the heck of it.

 

[pilonv1]

I feel like Dwight is going to troll everyone and pick some random ass team that hasn't even been in the discussion

"I chose to come back to Orlando because I really believe that myself and Victor Oladipo can bring a championship to this great city"

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

OH SHIT

Good bye 2014, 2016, 2018 first rounders.

 

[SoulPlaya]

I feel like Dwight is going to troll everyone and pick some random ass team that hasn't even been in the discussion

"I choose. . . . . . the POWER RANGERS!!!!!!!!!"

"I choose. . . . . . the Z FIGHTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Black Mamba]

OH SHIT

sure, but the warriors have to take money back. Who has nearly $25 million in cap space to take 2 of those without giving salary back?


edit: Also, when has Vescey ever been right?

 

[reilo]

sure, but the warriors have to take money back. Who has nearly $25 million in cap space to take 2 of those without giving salary back?

... Rockets ... Dallas ... They don't need to offload all players to the same team.

 

[Basileus777]

OH SHIT

I'm not surprised about Bogut, a solid big man on a one year deal is not unattractive. I wonder what they would have to ship out to get rid of Jefferson and Biedrins, is it just draft picks?

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Kings wanted Calderon over Vasquez? I think my confidence in the new front office is slowly diminishing.

 

[Black Mamba]

... Rockets ... Dallas ... They don't need to offload all players to the same team.

But they only have a few 1st rounders to part with. Who is going to take each 1 for just 1 late 1st rounder? Biedrens is $9 mil for like the 25th+ pick. Bogut is still useful so I can definitely see that one. Then RJef is the same as Biedrens.

I'd imagine they have teams willing to trade for say RJef + 2 or 3 1st rounders. But to do 3 separate deals without being able to trade infinite 1st rounders and such a high salary seems unlikely.

Plus, houston and dallas are not helping GSW get Dwight. Not sure who else that leaves outside the 1 deal for Bogut. That's why i combined them.

 

[pilonv1]

... Rockets ... Dallas ... They don't need to offload all players to the same team.

Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Utah, Philly, Sacremento,

If you want tanking, you want Jefferson & Biedrins.

 

[Basileus777]

But they only have a few 1st rounders to part with. Who is going to take each 1 for just 1 late 1st rounder? Biedrens is $9 mil for like the 25th+ pick. Bogut is still useful so I can definitely see that one. Then RJef is the same as Biedrens.

I'd imagine they have teams willing to trade for say RJef + 2 or 3 1st rounders. But to do 3 separate deals without being able to trade infinite 1st rounders and such a high salary seems unlikely.

Plus, houston and dallas are not helping GSW get Dwight. Not sure who else that leaves outside the 1 deal for Bogut. That's why i combined them.

I bet they could do it if they shipped out Barnes. To Utah maybe. The question is would Dwight still want to come there without Barnes.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

Kings wanted Calderon over Vasquez? I think my confidence in the new front office is slowly diminishing.

Calderon is better.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

I feel like Dwight is going to troll everyone and pick some random team that hasn't even been in the discussion

I saw him here in Charlotte today.


I can't back that up.

 

[Basileus777]

Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Utah, Philly, Sacremento,

If you want tanking, you want Jefferson & Biedrins.

Orlando has a $17.8 million trade exception, it'd be amusing if they got involved.

 

[fertygo]

Kings wanted Calderon over Vasquez? I think my confidence in the new front office is slowly diminishing.

Calderon is like Vazquez with better shooting, unless that's your problem.

 

[Matrix]

Howard is not going to be traded to GS. I'll bet money on that.

 

[Forever]

Houston fans appear to be very confident due to the tweets of some celebrity tattoo artist. If he goes to the Warriors...

 

[RoboGeorgeForeman]

Looks like the Pacers are putting all their eggs in the Copeland basket. Hopefully this dude doesn't turn out to be Gerald Green 2.0.

 

[Black Mamba]

morey coming off more desperate that the Lakers all of a sudden.

https://twitter.com/dmorey

Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Utah, Philly, Sacremento,

Not without renouncing cap holds of some free agents they're trying to keep. This has to be done really soon.

edit: And they don't have $25 million...

 

[Red Blaster]

orlando will facilitate dwight to golden state by using his own tpe against the lakers

 

[Matrix]

morey coming off more desperate that the Lakers all of a sudden.

https://twitter.com/dmorey

lol that's Morey being Morey. He actually has a sense of humor. Ever hear an interview with him or see some of his old tweets.

He's joking around lol Interesting background music.

 

[Cornbread78]

Good bye 2014, 2016, 2018 first rounders.

Dwight coming to Boston confirmed, lol

 

[Heart Attack]

It would be a shame if the warriors traded their young and fast paced team for Dwight.

 

[Matrix]

dang not the real Royce lol

nm

 

[Vic]

nvm.

 

[pilonv1]

It would be a shame if the warriors traded their young and fast paced team for Dwight.

The idea is that they keep their young players (Barnes, Curry, Thompson, Green, Ezili). They'd be trading Jefferson (33), Biedrins (27 going on 45) and Bogut (28), or even Rush (27).

 

[Zeus Molecules]

This is getting bizarre

Well dwight is bizarro superman so it all makes sense....

 

[Basileus777]

Stein:

It was a particularly uncomfortable holiday for the Los Angeles Lakers, sources told ESPN.com, as fears mount within the organization that Howard's current employers could have fallen to as low as fourth in his pecking order.

Sources close to the situation stressed that the famously fickle Howard -- deliberating at a hideaway in Aspen, Colo. -- still was undecided about choosing between the Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, Golden State Warriors, Atlanta Hawks and incumbent Lakers. Yet, there were indications late Thursday that Lakers officials, already bracing for the worst, had begun to rethink their long-held position of ruling out sign-and-trade options in the event Howard decides to bolt to one of L.A.'s rivals.

One source briefed on the Lakers' thinking told ESPN.com that, if the extra fifth year and nearly $30 million they can offer Howard isn't enough to hold off the competition, they would be forced to "look at everything."

Three executives with rival teams, furthermore, told ESPN.com on Thursday that they likewise see Golden State as capable of trading away Bogut, Jefferson and Biedrins, if necessary, as long as the Warriors are willing to attach assets to the respective deals that help the cap-room teams taking on those three contracts to either come away with good young talent or improve their prospects for the 2014 NBA draft that has teams leaguewide so excited

 

[pilonv1]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Lakers still have fifth year & extra $30M no one else can offer, but evidence mounting LA bracing for worst w/HOU, DAL & GSW in hot pursuit

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m

Story w/@ramonashelburne, via ESPN sources, has Lakers conceding for first time sign-and-trades must be considered if Dwight indeed bolts

bubububububu the Lakers wont trade Dwight, they'll let him walk!!

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Wonder if the Lakers would hold on to Asik or move him to a third-party for picks. Asik makes any team at least average on defense regardless of supporting cast and that really ruins any chances of solid tanking.

The places i read the stuff about Phx concerns over Noels knees were quoting from suns people on draft night. So i'm not sure its made up. PHX really wanted none of his knee troubles.

Where are these from? All I've seen is the NBADraft.net stuff.

 

[Black Mamba]

bubububububu the Lakers wont trade Dwight, they'll let him walk!!

Nobody said that. We said they won't take Bogut/Biedrens/Lee/RJ's contract on just to get Barnes. If there's a 3rd team involved, sure.

I don't know any of us that commented on Lin or Asik. I honestly don't know what the Lakers would do there.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

Lin was best under pringles and Asik is a legit center. But they are obviously better off tanking.

 

[Matrix]

Giving the Lakers Lin and Asik... wtf

I don't believe any of this shit.

 

[Black Mamba]

Giving the Lakers Lin and Asik... wtf

I don't believe any of this shit.

If you give the Lakers Asik, you can then sign Josh Smith outright if Atlanta doesn't want Asik.

Morey has to move Asik if Houston gets Dwight, anyway.

 

[Branduil]

Is Golden State even under the luxury tax right now?

 

[Matrix]

If you give the Lakers Asik, you can then sign Josh Smith outright if Atlanta doesn't want Asik.

Morey has to move Asik if Houston gets Dwight, anyway.

It's still dumb since we can sign Howard out right without moving those pieces if we don't have to or for more than just Smith in different trades.

Rockets just make the Lakers better.

 

[Basileus777]

It's still dumb since we can sign Howard out right without moving those pieces if we don't have to or for more than just Smith in different trades.

Rockets just make the Lakers better.

They are trying to pair Josh Smith with Howard, it may be easier for them to sign and trade for Howard and sign Smith than to sign Howard and then sign and trade for Smith.

 

[pilonv1]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m

Three rival execs told ESPN tonight they think that Warriors ARE capable of trading Bogut, Jefferson and Biedrins if LA won't sign-and-trade

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[Black Mamba]

Is Golden State even under the luxury tax right now?

including cap holds, no. Like $85 million. Without Jack and Landry it's close, like $74-76 million.

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It's all posturing to put pressure on lakers. We see this time and again. Sources lie all the time. You're not unloading all 3 in separate deals. The article contradicts itself. It says teams will be willing to trade for those guys IF they improve their 2014 lottery OR get back good young pieces (Klay or Barnes). Well, there's only one 2014 draft pick and Warriors say they won't trade either Klay or Barnes. One will have to go to make this work at best.

 

[Matrix]

They are trying to pair Josh Smith with Howard, it may be easier for them to sign and trade for Howard and sign Smith than to sign Howard and then sign and trade for Smith.

I feel like this is most likely about Howard wanting that 5th year the Lakers can sign him for as a max player to trade. He wants that extra money no matter where he plays.

It's just hard to imagine Lakers trading with the Warriors or Rockets.

 

[pilonv1]

including cap holds, no. Like $85 million. Without Jack and Landry it's close, like $74-76 million.

$70.8m without Jack & Landry.

Could also lower it slightly by cutting Machado & Dwayne Jones

 

[Branduil]

I feel like this is most likely about Howard wanting that 5th year the Lakers can sign him for as a max player to trade. He wants that extra money no matter where he plays.

He can only get that extra year with the Lakers.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

I feel like this is most likely about Howard wanting that 5th year the Lakers can sign him for as a max player to trade. He wants that extra money no matter where he plays.

He cant get the fifth even in a sign and trade. This is mostly GS saying if you pick us, we'll make it work. What's hilarious is that its Mark Jackson that gives them an edge. He's McHale level of shit.

 

[Matrix]

He can only get that extra year with the Lakers.

He signs a max 5 year with Lakers, he can't be traded with that contract? huh?

fucking NBA rules changing all the time.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

He signs a max 5 year with Lakers, he can't be traded with that contract? huh?

fucking NBA rules changing all the time.

He can but sign and trades are more complicated now than before.

 

[Branduil]

Dwight on Golden State would be pretty hilarious. They'd basically trade away half of their team for rich man's Bogut and they'd still have their dumb coach.