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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
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Blackace
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So give the rich more?
Red Blaster
Member
bennett has like the highest bust potential of anyone
tweeners who can't defend never do well in the nba
Blackace
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And Ben
I think Zeller has the highest floor of anyone that could possibly go in the top 5.
Blackace
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At worst he is declining Brad Miller
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Well, Henderson is a free agent, right?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
So am I the only one who thinks the Rockets would be better off signing David West then they would be signing Dwight?
Think West is the perfect for the Rockets on a lot of levels. A lot better than Josh Smith.
Think West is the perfect for the Rockets on a lot of levels. A lot better than Josh Smith.
I honesty think Zeller is a better prospect than Len. People are sleeping on him because he stayed another year instead of leaving. He was top 8 in last year's draft which was a strong one. Now everyone is rating a bunch of iffy players higher than him.
Yeah... There's a strong possibility we keep Henderson though.
Still, we have one of the worst rotations of bigs in the league if not the worst.
LegendofJoe
Member
It's the worst, there's no ifs about it. As for Zeller I just don't like his size.
Let's be real, he's got more than Noel and he knows how to use his a lot better than Len.
He's a good rebounder but his biggest problem last year was thinking about being "the guy" too much. He comes to Charlotte and all he has to do is set screens and do his work on the boards and he'll be given the key to the city for freeing up Kemba. That's all I really expect out of this draft. If Noel couldn't do it being Chandler-lite, then Zeller can do it being Laettner-lite.
A good PF would be better for them in general.
Future PhaZe
Member
Blackace
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lol wha?
Red Blaster
Member
still plays like shawn bradley
Future PhaZe
Member
My issue with Zeller is his rebounding. How can you be 7 foot with a 37 inch vertical and only average 6 and 8 boards in college?
I think he's trending towards a backup because 7 foot PF's just aren't a thing in this league anymore and his rebounding is so piss poor that he's going to get his shit pushed in at center.
I think he's trending towards a backup because 7 foot PF's just aren't a thing in this league anymore and his rebounding is so piss poor that he's going to get his shit pushed in at center.
Blackace
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Faze, RB just took the efficient slam dunk while you were shooting fadeaway midrange shots all over the place
Tragicomedy
Member
Man, Shawn Bradley made $70 million in his career. If I'd only been one damn foot taller I could've been the 7 foot 5 white, skinny guy with no skills getting dunked on all day. Life's not fair.
Also, Zeller has way more upside than Bradley. Not sure I get the comparison, unless it's just "LOL tall white guys!"
Also, Zeller has way more upside than Bradley. Not sure I get the comparison, unless it's just "LOL tall white guys!"
Future PhaZe
Member
Blackace
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Shawn Bradley had a decent career.. Over 2000 blocks and 5000 rebounds....
LegendofJoe
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And a SFish wingspan and standing reach. And even with his athleticism and height he was still an average rebounder in college, he will be a poor one in the NBA. Len was a better rebounder last year, and he's about 4 inches longer than Zeller. He was great touch around the basket too, which is something we sorely need. His midrange game isn't on Zeller's level, but it's fairly close. He's just an all around better prospect than Zeller in my opinion.
the softest blocks and rebounds in the history of the league
Blackace
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Only 200 less than Zo
Future PhaZe
Member
Lol
He's a terrible post scorer. Len scores .83 PPP on post ups and 39.3% on post shot attempts, which is terribad. Very nearly all of his offense is off of cuts to the basket or finishes off the glass.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...vanced-stats-look-at-alex-lens-low-post-game/
I think he's a better prospect overall than Zeller, but Zellers ceiling isn't much lower than Lens and his floor is significantly higher. Len is going to take forever to develop and has a good chance of being injury prone. With that said, he's got a good chance of being Hibbert as long as he can stay on the court long enough
4-6 years minimum to have positive impact
Zeller can only be sobad. And with his athletic tools combined with his size he has a high ceiling. Doubt he gets there, but he's probably the safest PF/C on the board.
Cats have to take McLemore if he's there. I think I take Len over Oladipo though.
Did you ever watch Bradley play? He was far from soft. Dude never backed down and was dirty as fuck.
Zeller and Bradley are nothing a like. Zeller is a pretty skilled player.
are you fucking kidding me
first of all when i make a statement you can stop giving me the "did you ever watch" bullshit yes i watched and that is why i have an opinion
then again you think stoudemire is the best post player and will save the knicks next year
Future PhaZe
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am I the only one who thinks Oladipo looks like a fraud that might be tony allen good as a ceiling?
He only made 30 threepointers the whole year as his best shooting season. That sample size is terrible. He averaged 8 shots a game as a dude who is hyper efficient.
And that would be okay if he was a dominant slasher and ball handler but he has a negative turnover ratio and he drew 3.5 fouls a game as a junior which is terribad compared to elite scoring SG's like Wade, Gordon and Harden.
He looks super suspect as a prospect to me.
He only made 30 threepointers the whole year as his best shooting season. That sample size is terrible. He averaged 8 shots a game as a dude who is hyper efficient.
And that would be okay if he was a dominant slasher and ball handler but he has a negative turnover ratio and he drew 3.5 fouls a game as a junior which is terribad compared to elite scoring SG's like Wade, Gordon and Harden.
He looks super suspect as a prospect to me.
Squall ASF
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You've essentially hated on every top prospect. As far as Oladipo, he's considered to have elite defensive skills that will translate to the next level and a 'developing' offensive game which as you stated, looked best this last season. Personally, I care more about what they've done lately as it shows development and you hope that they continue to develop at the next level. While you want a larger sample size, it's still preferable to a player starting hot and then lacking development his last season or two of college, going stagnant.
Gentle Rodriguez
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In this draft? No way, we aren't in need of a big man(barring a backup for Noah) so Noel isn't that interesting. We'd want a SG but we don't need the first pick for that.
The Frankman
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Yahoo! just made their official NBA Draft Mock in respect to team needs.
I'm so sorry Knux and Dark Faze.
I'm so sorry Knux and Dark Faze.
No, I don't. The Memphis FO hasn't had a national scouting staff -- not to mention an international one -- for the past few years. That was total luck on their part.
I am Michael Bolton
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I read Bradley as Barkley at first and nodded in agreement. Then I realized you said Bradley...
Red Blaster
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the help's up with all these juniors
I am Michael Bolton
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First day of school for the lot of us.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Wait, they have no scouts? What?
Blackace
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You need to embrace the Noel
Just watch him shit on high school kids
why are they defending him at the three point line? he did make one jumper though
most teams don't have a national scouting program these days. Not the same way that they used to.
I mean, most teams even have shared work outs and the like these days.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
So is Thomas Robinson a bust or blame the Kings?
He a bust. It was obvious since last year's summer league. But his value is still high in the league for some reason so Morey will probably flip him for a 2014 pick again this summer.
Knux-Future
Banned
I have accepted my Zeller future....
of course now he will go higher and it will be Plumlee future.
fuck
Tragicomedy
Member
2014 second rounder maybe.
Blackace
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Well kids get more coverage than ever before from high school