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[giri]

Well kids get more coverage than ever before from high school

Essentially.

Most teams have cut back on scouts, on the ground, a hell of a lot. Most, to my understanding, gather in all of the available game footage and watch that and selectively scout from there.

Along with the fact that a lot of this is known about the kids from high school, there's years of tape, stats, and interviews.

They obviously do some IRL scouting still. It's just more targeted and focused than it used to be. Most justified it by saying any savings on domestic scouting they'd put into putting international scouts on retainer.

 

[reilo]

Wait, they have no scouts? What?

They fired all of their scouting staff in August 2009.

I bring this up because the Grizzlies recently decided to let go of their scouts. Yes, all of their scouts.

"I prefer a smaller group," said Chris Wallace, the Grizzlies GM.

You have to love Wallace, don't you? He could have put a positive spin on the yellow fever epidemic.

"I prefer a smaller city," he'd have said.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/02/grizzlies-cutbacks-revealing-priority/

 

[Blackace]

Trade happened in 2008

 

[Future PhaZe]

I have accepted my Zeller future....

of course now he will go higher and it will be Plumlee future.

fuck

did you really just paste a yahoo sports mock draft lulz

Givony from draftexpress just posted the bets mock draft I've seen. Its updated based off of the "intel" he's gotten. Awesome part is him changing the Wiz from taking Bennett at 3 to Porter :>

Spoiler

lol dy

. Looking out to see if Chad Ford makes a similar switch.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/

I lol'd at the Pacers getting both Siva and Shane Larkin. Just throw as many picks at point guards as possible for the hope of being able to get a guy that can make a fucking pass into the post.

 

[The Frankman]

I'm posting every first-draft mock that I can find. And yes, the DraftExpress was posted days ago.

 

[giri]

did you really just paste a yahoo sports mock draft lulz

Givony from draftexpress just posted the bets mock draft I've seen. Its updated based off of the "intel" he's gotten. Awesome part is him changing the Wiz from taking Bennett at 3 to Porter :>

Spoiler

lol dy

. Looking out to see if Chad Ford makes a similar switch.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/

I lol'd at the Pacers getting both Siva and Shane Larkin. Just throw as many picks at point guards as possible for the hope of being able to get a guy that can make a fucking pass into the post.

Some of the pacers post entry problems really aren't PG related :|

 

[Rodeo Clown]

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/

9. Shabazz Muhammad.

Vomit.

 

[Knux-Future]

9. Shabazz Muhammad.

Vomit.

at least it isn't MCW.

although Shabazz's smile game is weak.

Then again Kahn did get fired.

Flip will probably draft dudes based off of their frowns now

 

[Rodeo Clown]

at least it isn't MCW.

although Shabazz's smile game is weak.

Then again Kahn did get fired.

Flip will probably draft dudes based off of their frowns now

Flip's last post on his twitter account is about Rodney Williams' vertical. It's so scary.

 

[giri]

Flip's last post on his twitter account is about Rodney Williams' vertical. It's so scary.

Trade the pick for afflalo.

Do it!

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Trade the pick for afflalo.

Do it!

I'd do it!

But then we'd still have to move Williams' contract.

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

Gonna head to the Kings rally in a bit to say wsup to c-webb, Isaiah Thomas, and Tyreke Evans

C-Webb is a class act. Have fun adamy.

 

[giri]

I'd do it!

But then we'd still have to move Williams' contract.

Throw him in.

Orlando could use some athleticism.

 

[K.Jack]

You need to embrace the Noel

Just watch him shit on high school kids

Spoiler

why are they defending him at the three point line? he did make one jumper though

Nah, I can't do it. I mean, he isn't even the best prospect at center available in this draft.

 

[Knux-Future]

Flip's last post on his twitter account is about Rodney Williams' vertical. It's so scary.

That's probably why he wanted Jan Vesely.

sorry.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Throw him in.

Orlando could use some athleticism.

Alright, let's phone this one in.

I'd seriously love to have Afflalo opposite Kirilenko/Budinger on the wing. There's actual defense and shooting there.

 

[Future PhaZe]

That's probably why he wanted Jan Vesely.

sorry.

I went back and read Veselys nbadraft.net profile

They had him rated high 90's as a prospect and compared him to Kirilenko lol

To be fair though, even I thought a worst case scenario (don't get me wrong I didn't want him) was him being a pretty decent backup PF on the defensive end.

The more I think about it wingspan aside he reminds me of Zeller. Zeller is more skilled but they both move the same.

 

[giri]

Alright, let's phone this one in.

I'd seriously love to have Afflalo opposite Kirilenko/Budinger on the wing. There's actual defense and shooting there.

He's the ideal candidate along side the others, and he's been around a while now.

Pek, Love, AK, Afflalo, Rubio

With buddinger off the bench.

You could get Pek posting 1v1 all day, cause you can't double off any of those guys. And thats not figuring in what the rest can do.

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

If Dwight does want to go to GS, the Lakers would most likely get a very nice deal in return. Dwight isn't turning down an extra 30 mil just to sign outright so it would be a S&T. Lakers are already going to have most of their terrible contracts expire after next season and with a D12 trade they'd probably get some nice picks as well as young talent. If I'm L.A., depending on what GS offers, I say do it in a heart beat.

 

[KingGondo]

If Dwight does want to go to GS, the Lakers would most likely get a very nice deal in return. Dwight isn't turning down an extra 30 mil just to sign outright so it would be a S&T. Lakers are already going to have most of their terrible contracts expire after next season and with a D12 trade they'd probably get some nice picks as well as young talent. If I'm L.A., depending on what GS offers, I say do it in a heart beat.

Golden State isn't offering Steph or Klay. Warriors wouldn't even give up Klay for Harden.

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

Golden State isn't offering Steph or Klay. Warriors wouldn't even give up Klay for Harden.

We're not talking Harden. We're talking Dwight Howard. Although Dwight didn't have the greatest of seasons, he's still an incredibly talented and capable big man in a league where big men are as rare as the Wizards winning a playoff series. Steph is off limits but I can see Klay being included in a deal. Klay, Bogut, an expiring contract, and a few draft picks for Dwight Howard and Steve Nash or Dwight Howard and Meta.

 

[Blackace]

Think we might have another Webber for Penny like draft here because looks like cle wants a SF

 

[Tragicomedy]

We're not talking Harden. We're talking Dwight Howard. Although Dwight didn't have the greatest of seasons, he's still an incredibly talented and capable big man in a league where big men are as rare as the Wizards winning a playoff series. Steph is off limits but I can see Klay being included in a deal. Klay, Bogut, an expiring contract, and a few draft picks for Dwight Howard and Steve Nash or Dwight Howard and Meta.

If GS didn't give up Klay for the Beard, they'd be insane to trade him for Howard.

Your proposed trades read like Lakers can fiction because they are. Ron Artest and Steve Nash's corpse? Really? LOL.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

We're not talking Harden. We're talking Dwight Howard. Although Dwight didn't have the greatest of seasons, he's still an incredibly talented and capable big man in a league where big men are as rare as the Wizards winning a playoff series. Steph is off limits but I can see Klay being included in a deal. Klay, Bogut, an expiring contract, and a few draft picks for Dwight Howard and Steve Nash or Dwight Howard and Meta.

Barnes to replace Metta and draft picks galore? Then they Amnesty Metta. Then they wait/pray for Curry's ankles to go and your talking multiple lottery picks alongside their own lottery picks....

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

If GS didn't give up Klay for the Beard, they'd be insane to trade him for Howard.

Howard COULD help GS more than Harden would. Also, you have to realize that many folks didn't know Harden would be able to so seamlessly evolve from a six man type of player to the first option and to do so at such a dominating level.

 

[Blackace]

If GS didn't give up Klay for the Beard, they'd be insane to trade him for Howard.

Your proposed trades read like Lakers can fiction because they are. Ron Artest and Steve Nash's corpse? Really? LOL.

Howard is gonna beast next year

 

[Blackace]

Howard COULD help GS more than Harden would. Also, you have to realize that many folks didn't know Harden would be able to so seamlessly evolve from a six man type of player to the first option and to do so at such a dominating level.

Plus Curry and Howard > Curry and Harden

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

Plus Curry and Howard > Curry and Harden

Agreed. Dwight just wasn't a good fit in L.A. Both sides tried making it work but it wasn't meant to be. GS has youth, speed, a true PG who can shoot the lights out of the arena, nice supporting cast, and more. If Dwight gets back to full strength, he could be the difference maker. The West is wide open now that Okc gave up Harden.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

the inside out game with curry and harden would be pretty fun to watch.


I don't think Dwight is heading to the Warriors though. I think it's either LA or Houston.

 

[Blackace]

I don't know the Thunder have the 12th pick Caldwell-Pope might fix them right up

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

I don't know the Thunder have the 12th pick Caldwell-Pope might fix them right up

Hmm, not familiar with Caldwell-Pope. I'm still amazed that Presti didn't get rid of Perkins last year.

 

[Blackace]

Hmm, not familiar with Caldwell-Pope. I'm still amazed that Presti didn't get rid of Perkins last year.

He is stuck with that contract

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

He is stuck with that contract

He can amnesty though unless I'm mistaken?

 

[The Frankman]

NBADraft.net releases their 1st Mock Draft according to need.

... what the fuck is this shit? There's so much wrong I scarcely know where to begin.

 

[Spooks]

So according to Calipari, Chris Grant was at Kentucky more than any other GM this past season. Brace yourself Cavs-age. The flat top is coming.

Spoiler

im okay with this

 

[Blackace]

He can amnesty though unless I'm mistaken?

It's not too late to do it


But seems like Brook likes using him

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

It's not too late to do it


But seems like Brook likes using him

Yep :/

 

[giri]

People are nuts thinking GS should give it all up for howard.

If bogut stays healthy, he's on dwights level defensively, and has a back to the basket game. And a better history of not being a fuckhead in the locker room.

It's nice to remember what dwights done, but bogut is his equal, and they already have him.

 

[I am Michael Bolton]

People are nuts thinking GS should give it all up for howard.

If bogut stays healthy, he's on dwights level defensively, and has a back to the basket game. And a better history of not being a fuckhead in the locker room.

It's nice to remember what dwights done, but bogut is his equal, and they already have him.

Except Bogut is a career health hazard. Not smart for GS to depend on Bogut staying healthy.

 

[Tragicomedy]

Except Bogut is a career health hazard. Not smart for GS to depend on Bogut staying healthy.

And Howard has been the epitome of good health? The dude's back and shoulders are a wreck. His career is on the downward slope.

 

[pilonv1]

People are nuts thinking GS should give it all up for howard.

If bogut stays healthy, he's on dwights level defensively, and has a back to the basket game. And a better history of not being a fuckhead in the locker room.

It's nice to remember what dwights done, but bogut is his equal, and they already have him.

I'd give up Lee, Jefferson & Ezili for Dwight. Play him next to Bogut. Jackson's always motivating speeches are probably what Dwight needs.

Imagine Dwight with all dem shooters...

I wouldn't trade Klay for anyone besides LeBron or Durant.

 

[giri]

Except Bogut is a career health hazard. Not smart for GS to depend on Bogut staying healthy.

99% of dwights game is based on his athelticism. And he's now got continuing back problems. Once players like him get that first big injury, they never stop coming. I really wouldn't be surprised to see dwight with knee issues this upcoming season.

He might not. He might get over it. He started to look better at the end of the season. But i'm not hopeful.

I'd give up Lee, Jefferson & Ezili for Dwight. Play him next to Bogut. Jackson's always motivating speeches are probably what Dwight needs.

Imagine Dwight with all dem shooters...

I wouldn't trade Klay for anyone besides LeBron or Durant.

You could, and play dwight as a 4. I think he'd have the sads though about touches and stuff after half a season. He's such a god damn baby. It would be... an interesting offence though. No interior spacing but lots of brilliant shooters.

Also, i'd trade Klay for afflalo.

 

[The Frankman]

Phoenix - Anthony Bennett, 6-7 240 SF/PF UNLV

Congrats giri!

 

[giri]

Congrats giri!

I know nothing about any of them.

I just know i don't want another person from arizona.

 

[pilonv1]

You could, and play dwight as a 4. I think he'd have the sads though about touches and stuff after half a season. He's such a god damn baby. It would be... an interesting offence though. No interior spacing but lots of brilliant shooters.

He'd get touches. They already run a lot of their offense through Bogut at times, and they could play like the Orlando team that made the finals, get the ball into Dwight to collapse the defenses. The best part is that Landry (if he stayed) would work great off the bench with Dwight. I think Jackson would be the sort of coach he'd like, always motivating him and getting him to buy in.

Biggest issue would be knowing that defenders wouldn't have to close out on both Dwight and Bogut.

Also, i'd trade Klay for afflalo.

Klay is already better than Afflalo, what is this crazyness.

 

[Future PhaZe]

lol what in the hell @ the Klay Thompson rhetoric. Kid has a shit sandwich for advanced stats.

 

[WorldStar]

Kings rally was nuts. So many people, so little park.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

I'd give up Lee, Jefferson & Ezili for Dwight. Play him next to Bogut. Jackson's always motivating speeches are probably what Dwight needs.

Imagine Dwight with all dem shooters...

I wouldn't trade Klay for anyone besides LeBron or Durant.

like what

 

[giri]

He'd get touches. They already run a lot of their offense through Bogut at times, and they could play like the Orlando team that made the finals, get the ball into Dwight to collapse the defenses. The best part is that Landry (if he stayed) would work great off the bench with Dwight. I think Jackson would be the sort of coach he'd like, always motivating him and getting him to buy in.

Biggest issue would be knowing that defenders wouldn't have to close out on both Dwight and Bogut.



Klay is already better than Afflalo, what is this crazyness.

Uhh bogut is a much better post player than dwight. Dwight would get lees pnr touches.

It's interesting to think about anyway. Shame neither can shoot fts.

And I still remain unconvinced about klay. His post season was nice. But eh. Not all that the hype would have you believe.

 

[pilonv1]

lol what in the hell @ the Klay Thompson rhetoric. Kid has a shit sandwich for advanced stats.

Did you watch him play defense during the playoffs?