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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
- Thread starter Rodeo Clown
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Black Mamba
Member
Well, I don't believe Asik will be there very long (or even opening night) so like I said, it depends on what they get back.
I'm honestly reserving judgment of Houston til I see a trade.
edit: And we're not talking wins, we're talking postseason. Dwight will play 40mpg in the postseason, maybe a bit more, so Asik becomes a non-factor there.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
McHale already said he might play them together
D12 at PF would be interesting for some match ups
iamshadowlark
Banned
It came from the fact that Dwight is even more mediocre than he used to be. It comes from the fact that they still don't have a legit superstar. It comes from the fact that Kevin Mchale is tasked to create a offense that revolves around Dwight, with probably the worst shooting of any team save, te Grizz, who is conference final bound.
The notion that Dwight Howard is gonna grow an offensive game, just because he cares now when he has failed to these 7-8 years he's bend in the league is laughable. Rockets as built are the 5th best team in the west.
Nightstick11
Banned
It stems from the fact that Dwight is a jabroni, and not a championship-caliber franchise player. He has a bad attitude and work ethic, not to mention no post moves. His flaws are so glaring that any championship-level squad can crush a Dwight-centric team. I mean, he can't pass, he can't post, and he doesn't even command a double-team against the top teams.
The Rockets have two superstars.
I'm fairly confident that Asik is going to be a Rocket for a good while and we'll see what Jones and Motiejunas and Parsons bring. I don't think Morey will trade him unless it's bringing in another star or near-star.The Rockets are actually set up for max cap room again in 2015 which will put major pressure on the Blazers and the Wolves in 2014. Like always, Morey is thinking steps ahead.
I'm fairly confident that Asik is going to be a Rocket for a good while and we'll see what Jones and Motiejunas and Parsons bring. I don't think Morey will trade him unless it's bringing in another star or near-star.The Rockets are actually set up for max cap room again in 2015 which will put major pressure on the Blazers and the Wolves in 2014. Like always, Morey is thinking steps ahead.
If Dwight and Harden don't count as superstars then there are like 6 in the league.
unknownstranger
Member
LOL did he really say that? It'd be 4 on 5 on both sides of the court.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Can't say I agree with any of this
Rockets are made like a team featuring Howard should be made
3 pt shooters and a guy who can score of the dribble
If Howard had a Harden like player in Orlando they would have taken home that hardware
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Shit on D they would be nasty
Don't figure how they would be bad against most lineups not including good stretch 4s
Warriors signed EURose too
http://blog.sfgate.com/warriors/2013/07/09/warriors-sign-first-round-pick-nemanja-nedovic/
http://blog.sfgate.com/warriors/2013/07/09/warriors-sign-first-round-pick-nemanja-nedovic/
iamshadowlark
Banned
5 is the number I sat on. 10 legit allstars. Dwight nor Harden was a superstar last year, and I really don't see any reason to believe Dwight will grow into one next year. Harden maybe.
Blackace said:
That's not really surprising. I remember this time last year, the entirety of this thread was pointing and laughing and planning LA parades while I was stressing that this lakers squad wasn't gonna be shit. And this rosters top 5 is worse than that laker team.
And the rockets didn't have a single guy shoot over .400 from three. With Hardens lack of a mid-range and Dwights lack of offense, the lanes are gonna be clogged to all hell. And I don't see how a player like harden stops Howard from getting shit on by Gasol.
It won't be the same unless Mbenga comes back then it's time to party like it's 2010!.
unknownstranger
Member
Stretch 4's are becoming very common now that could probably get a jump shot off of one of them constantly and you basically just need one guy in the paint to guard both Dwight and Asik (assuming Asik has no jump shot, haven't watched him much).
Adam Blade
WWKC
Crawful is being a total mangina on Twitter.
... smh
... smh
Black Mamba
Member
There is no max cap room. You're at $48 mil with just Harden/Howard/Jones/Montiejunas + 9 cap holds.
And that assumed Beverly and Parsons walk. Parson will eat up whatever cap space you have unless he turns in a terrible season.
Asik being a rocket = no title contender. Would be pretty stupid when there are other more pressing holes in the lineup than backup C.
Parsons and Beverley have cap holds of 1.8 and 1 million, respectively. Motiejunas and Jones make around $5 million combined that year but are expiring contracts at the very least. The cap is looking to be around 63 million so that would be like 19 million in cap space if Morey dumps Jones and Motiejunas.
Way too early to say if PF is a pressing need considering Jones and Motiejunas were rookies last season and the team actually played best with Parsons at the 4. No reason to trade Asik right now unless its a no brainer.
Way too early to say if PF is a pressing need considering Jones and Motiejunas were rookies last season and the team actually played best with Parsons at the 4. No reason to trade Asik right now unless its a no brainer.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
good stretch 4s aren't that common, and one guy really hasn't been able to guard D12 alone.
Almost every team doubles D12 in the post.. let's just be real
unknownstranger
Member
And they really have nothing to lose doubling Dwight as Asik is already basically a non factor on offense, and with Dwight in the paint, he'll be even less of one.
Black Mamba
Member
You realize the team must decide to drop those 2 at the end if this season, right? Rookie team options must be exercised a year in advance. I highly doubt they are just dropped.
And considering there's still this off-season and next, I highly doubt Morey doesn't add anyone with a MLE deal next year or try to extend parsons before he becomes a UFA. Houston won't have max cap space in 2015, of this I am certain. They might not have any cap space at all.
You'll learn to love him. I swear he'd be a good piece if teams just let him shoot and defend but everybody tries to make him a point guard...
iamshadowlark
Banned
Every team outside of contenders. And somehow he magically starts to look below average and his teams look terrible.
I'm hoping they let Klay or AI handle the ball while Steph is off the court.
An AI Douglas backcourt would be perfect. Well not perfect but definitely NBA quality...
I'll be so happy if we get Artest. Not that it would change the Knicks outlook but it will sort of make up for when we passed on him 14 years ago...
bigmit3737
Member
Anyone else excited to see how Dwight will play with harden? I think they will mesh well though I think it will take more than this season for them to really shine,
So any positive notable trades for the Knicks?
What about the heat?
So any positive notable trades for the Knicks?
What about the heat?
You got Andrea Bargnani.
Who back in 2008 played a 4 week span as a 20/10 player and possible first option.
But its ok. He's only making 11M this year.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
not true, contenders do too..
Toney Douglas is garbagnani.
I want Artest. He should have been drafted a knick. Stupid Ed Tapscott.
We already have Jodie Meeks. I absolutely cannot stand Sasha.
The Frankman
Banned
it was to acquire Raymond Felton.
Only used part of the MLE.
It's a 2 year deal at $3M per with a team option on the 2nd year. Pretty good deal for the Raps.
Jeremy Tyler on their summear league team
Every bad team maybe.
Dwight's lack of post moves means he has to just out muscle and out jump his man, something that will happen less and less as he ages and that fucked up back starts to hurt more and more every season.
This works great when he is playing against say Andrea Bargnani or JJ hickson or Chris Kaman.
Look at the other Western contenders.
Spurs hate doubling and will be fine with Duncan or splitter on him.
OKC will be super excited to use perkins in the ONE scenario where he is actually valuable. Dwight is always a god damn mess vs. perk.
Marc Gasol wouldn't need a double team.
The Clippers would actually probably double him frequently unless Doc gets into Dumbandre's soul and makes him play defense intelligently, he has all the physical tools to guard dwight solo.
Golden State will guard him solo if Bogut is healthy...but how often is that.
Now I'm not saying these teams would NEVER double team because throwing different looks at an offensive player in a playoff series is just a good way to keep them guessing, but none of these teams are going to be doubling him constantly. This isn't 2008 where the center position was as thin as Shaun Livingston.
Dwight just isn't the type of guy who can bust out 35 point games out of post moves. If he hit his free throws and was a much more willing and skilled pick and roll player he would get there more often but that isn't his current reality.
DCX
DCX
Andrea was a shit trade but what can you? Roll with the punches and hope he shows promise. It might work.
Novak didn't play because he couldn't defend his own shadow and regressed in 3pt shooting..and zombie Camby.
The only part of the trade that hurts is the first rounder. That's what makes it a shit trade.
DCX
Novak didn't play because he couldn't defend his own shadow and regressed in 3pt shooting..and zombie Camby.
The only part of the trade that hurts is the first rounder. That's what makes it a shit trade.
DCX
Amazing
dat Dolan
CreepingFear
Member
Lakers should bring back Radmanovic so the Bulls don't. He'd be perfect for Dtoni's defensive juggernaut.
victreeb3l
Member
My understanding is that is the jersey that Terry himself will be wearing on Friday.
