MorisUkunRasik
Member
That's some revisionist stuff. The fan base was pretty split between having KB's back and being mad at him for not handling the situation better.
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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
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That's some revisionist stuff. The fan base was pretty split between having KB's back and being mad at him for not handling the situation better.
"Look at my new signing," says a New Russian to his colleague. "I bought him for 3.1 million dollars per annum from the agent over there."
"You got yourself conned," says the other. "You could have paid twice as much for the same player just across the street."
It seems to me he's pressuring management to give him an extension this season. So they'll have to make a decision soon.
i never said the fanbase wasnt split. Where kobe is now is way higher than where Shaq was when that shit was going down after the loss to the pistons
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
The splitting of maybe the greatest 1-2 punch in basketball history is always revisionist with the purple nation
It's not that people weren't upset but even during the horrible seasons it was all good
Liquidsnake
Banned
I would have kept Metta. This was not a good decision.
:LOL
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
He's only been injured for the last three years, who hasn't had that happen?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I agree with you, people were alright with dealing with it cause Kobe was amazing and it was easy to see a future beyond Kobe/Shaw with just Kobe. Kobe could be on the losing end this time if things get rough between him and a early 20s juggernaut.
Yea but Kobe will be in the Shaq position this go round.
Knux-Future
Banned
Z-rex gonna EAT
Syphon Filter
Member
He's coming home to NY.
ROTFLOLMAO it's too good. Too good. Look at what they paid Korver and Brewer and all those other guys. I can't even.
Jason kidd will fuck it up.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
the swag required to catch and turn around to shoot the ball on top of the backboard is pretty impressive though
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Fuck what up?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
With his wingspan that is the perfect nickname
gotdayum
He has never coached before and that team has a two year window. It makes no sense to hire him right after he retires.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
2 year window? PP and KG(more likely) might hang it up after this season.
He's there to manage egos and keep Deron happy, they've got Lawrence Frank running the offense and John Welch running the defense.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He has two head coaches with him
AgentChris
Member
Kidd will be a really good head coach. I have a feeling.
captmcblack
Member
That Nets team is going to fuck shit up as long as it's healthy. It's got too much talent, and is theoretically too deep. Even a rookie coach can't blow this. As much as he's a rookie coach, he's also Jason Fucking Kidd. He played with or against every single one of these guys, and aside from being a drunk wife-beater I don't think he's got any beef with the players on his team. In fact, given that he's Jason Fucking Kidd, I'd wager they respect him greatly.
You figure chemistry might be an issue. You figure age/injury might be an issue. But aside from that, the team is balanced offensively both in starters and bench guys, and should defend well too. Deron's unhappiness can't even ruin things, because no matter how much of a diva or star he wants to be, he isn't yet more relevant even today than his coach, or KG/Pierce. KG alone will likely shut that shit down if it threatens the ability of that team to win.
In conclusion, why can't Dolan make some back-channel illegal money laundering type FA deals? Goddamn.
[EDIT: Nobody of relevance on the Heat roster took a paycut. They all got max deals with no tax. You think Bosh would net more money *not* on the Heat? Or Wade? Or LBJ? Stop.]
You figure chemistry might be an issue. You figure age/injury might be an issue. But aside from that, the team is balanced offensively both in starters and bench guys, and should defend well too. Deron's unhappiness can't even ruin things, because no matter how much of a diva or star he wants to be, he isn't yet more relevant even today than his coach, or KG/Pierce. KG alone will likely shut that shit down if it threatens the ability of that team to win.
In conclusion, why can't Dolan make some back-channel illegal money laundering type FA deals? Goddamn.
[EDIT: Nobody of relevance on the Heat roster took a paycut. They all got max deals with no tax. You think Bosh would net more money *not* on the Heat? Or Wade? Or LBJ? Stop.]
Basileus777
Member
You've got that backwards.
Red Blaster
Member
damn nets will be kind of decent
no longer neohawks
neoceltics?
no longer neohawks
neoceltics?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
AK47 isn't Bosh Wade or LBJ
He is like Ray Allen or Shane
So point stands perfectly
And Dolan is a man-child which is why he can't get shit done
Basileus777
Member
Allen is the one who took the paycut. And Miller, but who cares about Miller.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Ray took a pay cut
AgentChris
Member
Neo2005
They all took paycuts. The Big3 all took less than the max they could make.
Miller and Haslem took less money than they were offered to go elsewhere. Haslem, in particular, has sacrificed over $20M in his last two contracts. I don't feel like hunting down the Lebatard piece on that. Rio declined bigger offers to stay here. Battier, Birdman, Ray and Shard all signed here on smaller offers than they got elsewhere. Cole and Jarvis are on really small contracts, though I can't say for sure if either could have made more money, given their experience. Other than Joel, who is probably making fair market value, everyone took a paycut. Even JJ took a paycut, though he was also receiving two paychecks from the team as part of a buyout.
I don't think there's anything shady about a guy taking a paycut late in his career to win a championship. I mean, AK47 added to that roster makes them a serious contender now. He's made enough money he can try to chase a ring. PEACE.
captmcblack
Member
Could those players have made more money after tax than they could've elsewhere? That's what I want to know. I know they could've grossed more.
Also, I don't care about Shard (washed up ring chaser), Battier (ring chaser), Birdman (suspected child pornographer, wasn't going to get more), Chalmers (RFA, wasn't made any other offers).
Mike Miller, Haslem...those guys, okay. Ray Allen? I'd lean towards washed up or ring chaser, but I have too much respect for his game/relevance in the league for that. They've done enough and made enough money where I can respect their choice to ring chase.
Also, I don't care about Shard (washed up ring chaser), Battier (ring chaser), Birdman (suspected child pornographer, wasn't going to get more), Chalmers (RFA, wasn't made any other offers).
Mike Miller, Haslem...those guys, okay. Ray Allen? I'd lean towards washed up or ring chaser, but I have too much respect for his game/relevance in the league for that. They've done enough and made enough money where I can respect their choice to ring chase.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Oladipo's gonna haunt the Cavs.
Passed him up for Dion Waiters.
Passed him up for Dion Waiters.
Depends. They only avoid state tax in home games and road games in tax-free states. So a bit more than half their income is free of the x% state tax you pay in that income bracket. I have no idea what percent states take anymore. It's been years since I last lived in NY, and that it probably one of the worst states. I don't think it's more than 10%, and for the Big3, $15M is more than 10% of their gross contracts.
So I would say yes. There are other cost savings though, like cost of living. It's very low in Miami, relative to other parts of the country. But it's hard to quantify stuff like that, so I'm just going on what the contract discounts are. PEACE.
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
Nets owner gives no fucks about the luxury tax. I hope they at least get to the conference semis this coming season.
Also, just want to share that I have a job offer which only lasts until the 15th but I still have another pending application with one company I really like which would last until some time next week. Talked to the company offering me a job yesterday and they said they would not extend their job offer's deadline. I feel like I'm gonna get Iggy'd.
Also, just want to share that I have a job offer which only lasts until the 15th but I still have another pending application with one company I really like which would last until some time next week. Talked to the company offering me a job yesterday and they said they would not extend their job offer's deadline. I feel like I'm gonna get Iggy'd.
they were already going to be good, now they could be great
captmcblack
Member
Nets lifted themselves off the treadmill.
Currently they are the true hope of re-defeating Lord Zedd and the Heat in my mind. The Knicks aren't powerful enough yet. OKC can't do it either, and the Spurs won't be able to repeat what they just did again.
Currently they are the true hope of re-defeating Lord Zedd and the Heat in my mind. The Knicks aren't powerful enough yet. OKC can't do it either, and the Spurs won't be able to repeat what they just did again.
Syphon Filter
Member
They aren't beating the heat at all. Pacers and Bulls have a better chance.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
ROTFLOLMAO it's too good. Too good. Look at what they paid Korver and Brewer and all those other guys. I can't even.
ehh you were crowing like this over korver too....