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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
- Thread starter Rodeo Clown
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It is complete shit
Everyone is either looking to be THE GUY THAT MADE THE RIGHT PREDICTION or there is nonstop trolling from drive bys or people who hate them
It'll be even worse during the finals
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
They need to start building him up for a trade. He's really not that good but if they can get a string of good games out of him for a half season they mght be able to trade him for somebody good due to that youth factor.
And yeah don't put jrue through that kind of brown hell.
StickSoldier
Member
LOL, they look like 2 liter bottles in the journalist hands, but an 8oz can in his hand. That's fucking crazy.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Nyets are going hard after Shaw too.
Is he even that good doe?
Also, which position would be more attractive to a coach?
Is he even that good doe?
Also, which position would be more attractive to a coach?
Future PhaZe
Member
With how bad that team passes the ball these days I'm not sure that the triangle wouldn't be the best thing that could happen to the Nets.
Puts a priority on starting the offense with getting the ball to Lopez and just let everyone else just spot up.
Puts a priority on starting the offense with getting the ball to Lopez and just let everyone else just spot up.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I mean Hollins is going to want a lot of money to deal with D "coach killer" Williams. Shaw on the other hand is younger guy who knows how to coach and is dying for a HC role.
So he'll take less money and likely he will be willing to deal with the job for the years necessary to get all those max contracts off the books. Cause the nyets is the most stuck team salary wise ib the league.
Plus the triangle could work for them especially if they keep blatche
Black Mamba
Member
I think Shaw can be a good coach. But the Clippers are a terrible fit for him. He wants to incorporate aspects of the triangle and CP3 and Jordan are a terrible match for that. Probably Griffin as well. Clippers could use a JVG more but he'd never coach for Sterling.
Nets would be a decent fit. They have a big man to run the triangle through in Lopez and 2 ball handlers on the perimeter. Can play inside out and stuff.
Don't take the Clippers job, Shaw. Let someone with no future left take it.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
When did I mention CP3 as being any better? We were talking about the Nyets and why THEY likely are going for shaw over Hollins. yeah CP3 is in the same boat and if Hollins goes there (which would be crazy considering the last two playoffs)
I expect him to ask for a lot of money guaranteed as well even more for the clipper HC cause sterling is a horrible boss who will do anyone and everyone dirty because thats his nature.
Future PhaZe
Member
i just realized Reggie Evans averaged 11 boards per game in just 25 minutes this year with a sample size of 80 games.
wat
wat
It comes down to this.
Clippers (if CP3 re-signs) probably have a better Team. But the Nets have a much better owner.
Both have teams that are currently being run by the players and both need to make moves to really "compete". And both have a lot of "talent" that is over the hill and having too much asked of them.
Clippers (if CP3 re-signs) probably have a better Team. But the Nets have a much better owner.
Both have teams that are currently being run by the players and both need to make moves to really "compete". And both have a lot of "talent" that is over the hill and having too much asked of them.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Happened last few years. I think we can make some connection as to why it is happening.
Happening since the 2008 finals really.
Got really bad in 2009 and 2010 for the finals.
The Frankman
Banned
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Clippers have a better team with better cap flexibility right now
Will they take advantage of any of it?
And there roster has a LOT of holes. Large ones.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Sure it does
But so does the Nets roster
And LAC has cap flexibility and more moveable parts
Besides a racist owner LAC is a pretty sexy job
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Yeah the Nyets are stuck a lot of those deals were too much under the old CPA and are all albatrosses now. Nyets are stuck roster wise for a bunch of seasons. Shaw being younger and trying for his first HC position means, he just needs a HC spot to build a winning record at this point of his career. Plus the Nyets have the personnel to run the triangle whereas the clippers do not.
Knux-Future
Banned
The Nets are Nu-Hawks.
They will be stuck with shit contracts and Deron will waste away.
Dat Billy King magic.
They will be stuck with shit contracts and Deron will waste away.
Dat Billy King magic.
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Nets owner is willing to spend, and that counts for a lot. Like, a lot. I don't see the clippers as all THAT much better.
Their FO is a turn style, you have an interfering GM that usually manages to do the wrong thing and annoy his players.
There's a lot to dissuade you from either position.
Mitchell is talented, but soft as fuck. He is another beasley for sure. Kabongo is who I want.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
A Beasly at 24 in this years draft wouldnt be so bad..... I'm just saying you could do a lot worse than that..... if he is a Terrence Jones is the question.
also unlike beasly knicks draft this kid you know they are paying The Deam early to work on his inside game and the kid has good size (240) and isnt scared of contact (like say an anthony randolph). Also he has the tools to work in the paint offensively which is what the knicks need come playoff time. I like it that the knicks are preparing for Amare not being around and are looking to get a Forward who can shoot the ball and defend at the 3 and 4 that allows Melo to play PF if the mismatch is in his favor.
Also it looks like the knicks are serious about the second rounder from the camp invites so I see them taking a pg as well. Kabongo, Green, Wolters, will all be there so it makes sense to see them all in case their first choice gets taken before the pick they buy occurs.
The Frankman
Banned
Ninja Scooter
Member
Beasley minus the weed/bipolar problems would probably be a top 3 player in this draft.
The Frankman
Banned
Who was the last tweener in the draft in the Top 20 that worked out? I can't remember the last one...
Beasley minus the weed/bipolar problems was a top 2 player in his own draft doe
Edit: That Mayo/Love trade was so bizarre. Minny drafted Mayo as the 3rd pick and traded him to Memphis for Love (5th pick). Why wouldn't they just draft Love themselves?
Makes no sense.
benjipwns
Banned
Minny dumped some contracts for shorter ones. Particularly Jaric who was making like seven million a year and had three years left.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
He might be the second rounder then
We got wilson chandler at 23 and he is a tweener.....
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Donald will spend to win.. just is a racist slum lord
Nets have deep pockets but have Billy King
And the gap of talent between the two teams is pretty wide
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Wilson at PF is laughable
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
We had this discussion before I judge players position between 2-4 by who they can potentially guard. In ny we had him guarding 2-4 at times (mostly cause d'antoni sucks) but he did it..... Mitchell is a pf but he can guard the 3 and shoot.
Oh ok. Thanks!
Yeah he finally started spending a few years ago so it won't be like the Clippers of the 90s. The Nets will be stuck until all their max contracts expires and they fire Billy King.
Sterling is still a horrible person though.
The Frankman
Banned
I'm talking about a 3/4 tweener. The 2/3 tweeners are very common.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Josh Smith, thaddeus young, jeff green
Josh Smith was who mitchell was compared to until he fell off and decided to play on the perimeter along with Texas's bad guard play. The best of these guys can rebound. This guy rebounds like a PF with an outside shot so yeah I see him being a thaddeus young player.
LegendofJoe
Member
I don't know why people don't consider Lebron a 1/3/4 tweener because he is. He's a beast guarding and playing at all of these positions, but that doesn't mean he isn't a tweener. Gerald Wallace is another successful tweener.
The Frankman
Banned
Tweener means you generally don't have a set position you can play. LeBron and Wallace can play set positions, let's not confuse tweener with versatile. Beasley is not versatile.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Mitchell has all of Beasley's mental problems (maybe more actually) and is a lot less skilled.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Yeah but using Lebron or another example Melo isnt helping my point those guys are SF who are skilled enough to play PF for the most part.
Stahp it lol dude has no reported mental problem just motivation concerns. Also Shawn Marion is another tweener.
LegendofJoe
Member
I guess it makes sense to have different labels for each
Can play multiple positions successfully=Versatile
Can play multiple positions, but poorly=Tweener?
that's kind of a big deal I think
I'm pretty sure a poor man's Michael Beasley is the last thing you would need
They're just different things.
LBJ/Melo/Wallace/ Matrix... they're just very large SF's who can play at the 4. They're not really 4's. It's like calling Amare a C. He just isn't.
Tweener are guys who aren't PF's, and aren't SF's either. Most will be listed as PF's as they can't keep up with SF's. But they usually can't defend PF's either because they're not big enough.
That looks like a 12 or 16oz Gatorade. Those pussies just don't know how to chug. If you've ever pounded a beer or funneled, you can down a Gatorade. PEACE.
Odds swinged today on Sportsbook with the Dwightmare.
Rockets move from +120 to -140.
Lakers move from +120 to +150.
http://www.sportsbook.ag/livesports/...ame=basketball
Wrap. It. Up.
Rockets move from +120 to -140.
Lakers move from +120 to +150.
http://www.sportsbook.ag/livesports/...ame=basketball
Wrap. It. Up.
Red Blaster
Member
watched some shane larkin tape earlier, i think he could be okay even if his wingspan is insanely poor (5'10" lololololol). ultra quick, pnr guards who can shoot should be able to find a place in the league even if they are 5'11.
it's been confirmed for a while now
he's been going on playdates with parsons chandler and thereby continuing to torment darkside
it's been confirmed for a while now
he's been going on playdates with parsons chandler and thereby continuing to torment darkside
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Jazz are linked to him so I want to like him, but his arms are just so short
His reach is two inches worse than even Nate Robinson's and I don't know if he's quick enough to make up for his total lack of length. Seems to be smart and a good shooter so I wouldn't hate it, but there's a lot of others guys in that area I would prefer.That's why I called him beasley. He is like Beasley as we know him now.
I don't think Larkin will translate to the NBA well. He's gonna have a hell of a time getting his jumper off.