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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
- Thread starter Rodeo Clown
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I am Michael Bolton
Banned
Looks like Hova is trying to form his own super team.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Zeller and Leonard aren't similar players. Zeller is a face-up PF, Zeller is far more skilled and intelligent, Leonard is a lot more physically gifted (as least on the court)
I made the same argument last year, but white American born big men drafted in the lottery haven't panned out since Bill Walton.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Blazers just picked a Senior in the top 10 and saw it work out (which has almost never happened in this century), I doubt they care about the bust rate of white Americans who are nothing like Zeller or Leonard (especially since Zeller plays more like David Lee than any other white guy and Lee has been pretty successful)
Lee: 1st round (30th pick, 30th overall)
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Ilyasova is a good player lost on a team of chuckers and shitty management.
Yes but if he's being moved for the #3 then it's a shitty draft.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
What do you guys think of ricky ledo?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I could really use an analysis to see how he stacks up against Kobe. If only someone here could provide such insight.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Lol man lol
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Is it really possible for one poster to ruin an entire thread?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Vahagn Heavy konex tripleu pimpwerx shadowlark dancingjudas
occasionally clovis
Typically the offseason has better discussion for longer compared to the regular season due to casuals and badnwagoners losing interest.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
I just can't comprehend the logic behind some of these posts
I need to ly dow
I need to ly dow
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I think a lot of juniors signed up in this wave due to the new systems and E3 coming as well so that just adds to the noise.....
I like to think of it as a hazing. Approving right before E3 means if you can survive it then maybe you'll get to member status.
Also so what's going on in the Finals thread? Haven't really checked or watched any of the Conference Finals and now the NBA Finals. Been completely addicted to Rising Storm so haven't paid much attention besides watching highlights.
Adam Blade
WWKC
I can't stand reading the Finals thread. Too many juniors, too many members acting a fool.
Offseason thread is so much more palatable.
Offseason thread is so much more palatable.
The Frankman
Banned
I blame LLL-GAF for this.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
LLL?
don't forget the Quad Ls
i blame VAGD gaf.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
To be fair who hasnt gotten caught up in some vagd now and then
ThisWreckage
Banned
That would be a coup for Washington. They'll get more production out of Lurch than any player drafted at 3.
The Frankman
Banned
So in a weak draft where he'll go 20-25 he may not even enter?
he scurred
Future PhaZe
Member
In the short term yea, but Porter projects to be the better two way player in the long run.
Ilyasova trade won't happen. Nice player but not worth Porter.
Beyond that the trade isn't even possible from a salary perspective.
It's worth entertaining if Noel and Porter are off the board though.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Source tells me Magic considering moving down in draft and have "quite a few" suitors interested in trading for No. 2 pick.
Makes sense. Can't imagine getting a ton but stockpiling draft picks would be nice.
Source tells me Magic considering moving down in draft and have "quite a few" suitors interested in trading for No. 2 pick.
Makes sense. Can't imagine getting a ton but stockpiling draft picks would be nice.
A pick in the 6-10 range, expiring + future first rounder for Afflalo & #2 would probably be a good deal.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Pelicans really need to trade up for Porter. The projections of Bennett and Len to them make almost no sense since I think neither guy will ever be as good as Ryan Anderson.
You can say the same thing about Seniors picked in the top 10. Almost all of them in the last 11 to 12 years have been busts, but the Blazers picked Lillard anyway.
That would be a pretty weird and redundant frontcourt combination.
You can say the same thing about Seniors picked in the top 10. Almost all of them in the last 11 to 12 years have been busts, but the Blazers picked Lillard anyway.
That would be a pretty weird and redundant frontcourt combination.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Next year will be weak for big men too
And nothing wrong with wanting to get better
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Can I just trade the no. 9 for Afflalo straight up? I don't want picks in this draft. Especially not when I'm seeing Shabazz to the Wolves.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Best player available? And might be good have LMA to mentor him
And twin towers like that could be interesting
Red Blaster
Member
tells me that burke is probably their target
i also literally forgot glen davis was on the magic' roster until now, he needs to be moved more than afflalo
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
http://www.shamsports.com/2013/06/the-amount-of-cap-room-teams-will.html
good piece on the actual realistic cap space each team has (or doesn't have) going into free agency.
good piece on the actual realistic cap space each team has (or doesn't have) going into free agency.
Red Blaster
Member
lawl just read that someone at fox sports ohio with a source mentioned that mclemore is a potential target for the cavs #1
seems like they want to outdo reaching for dion waiters at 4
seems like they want to outdo reaching for dion waiters at 4
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I doubt the McLemore and Len rumors because those guys project pretty badly on a lot of advanced metric draft sites.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Hollinger isn't the Cavs GM doe.
LegendofJoe
Member
Guarantee you it's the Wolves trying to move up to 2. I doubt the Magic would be interested unless they're ok with not getting Burke. I doubt they want Williams either with Harris already on the roster. So It will be a tough sell for Flip to make, he'd be better off dealing with the Wizards or us. If the Magic stay at 2 though I think they'll take Noel or Oladipo depending on who is there. It's who I would take if I were Hennigan.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Cavs are the team most heavily focused on advanced stats in the league right now I would say. Advanced metrics were the only reason they took Thompson and Waiters in the top 4 when they were projected outside of the top 10.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Compared to sabermetrics, aren't basketball advanced stats simply not that good?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Most basketball stats aren't nearly as good as baseball stats, especially on defense and for draft/development projection. It's probably a good idea in general to avoid players that don't get steals, blocks, or assists in college and to avoid picking older players in the lottery, but I'm not sure about a lot of other draft projection stuff (other than the obvious stuff of picking guys who were efficient and good in college). The Cavs definitely believe in those types of numbers very strongly though.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Honestly it really only works well in baseball because the sport is almost always isolated to individual performance - pitcher vs batter, fielder vs ball in play etc.
It's way harder to do that in basketball where other variables come into play like teammates and coaching/systems.
Red Blaster
Member
some stats are handy dr. blade
steal rate for wings is a good stat since it correlates very well with success from college to the nba, it's why shabazz and mclemore will probably be busts (though with how fast shabazz is dropping in stock a bust is probably too strong a word at this point) and why there's a good chance oladipo will at the very least be a decent player
LegendofJoe
Member
We haven't even called McLemore in for a workout yet, I hope it stays that way. You don't take a 3 and D guy with bad intangibles in the top 5.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Yeah, apparently Flip wants Oladipo and will keep trying to move up and grab him. Which is like, dude, how does this address the fact that we were one of the worst three point shooting teams ever last year.
LegendofJoe
Member
Getting Love back should help a lot, and Oladipo isn't a terrible shooter. When he was left open last year he was a pretty good shooter. He and Rubio in the backcourt during fastbreaks and on D would be awesome to watch.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Hopefully Rubio is able to consistently make layups this season.