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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
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CreepingFear
Member
Carlos Boozer and Soul Playa for KG. Do it Gar/Pax!
@ Zeus
The wolves have bigger needs than a backup C to be signing. They need a starting quality SG that can shoot something desperate. Don't see why they'd tie any of their cap up in chandlers contract.
Tyson makes 14.1M 13-14 and 14.5M 14-15
And when you consider the wolves are just now starting to clear off some contracts and have to pay pek and have bigger needs?
Old wolves, maybe. New wolves? no.
The wolves have bigger needs than a backup C to be signing. They need a starting quality SG that can shoot something desperate. Don't see why they'd tie any of their cap up in chandlers contract.
Tyson makes 14.1M 13-14 and 14.5M 14-15
And when you consider the wolves are just now starting to clear off some contracts and have to pay pek and have bigger needs?
Old wolves, maybe. New wolves? no.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Hey, maybe in year 6 he'll learn how to play defense or how to make shots that aren't dunks.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
If the Celtics get 2 first and DJ for Kevin and Doc the Celtics win cause the Celtics are just looking to rebuild and those first could be worth something. KG is about to retire and Doc wants to go its a bad deal for the clippers in my opinion cause the Celtics could be a season away from getting nothing for KG and 2 away from getting nothing for Doc either.
You could be right (and this is just a rumor) but maybe they feel pek played for a contract or more likely if you look at it from a cap POV.
Tyson is just a 2 year contract that ends the same time Love's does. If they want to try to keep Love by drawing a good/great FA that money would be available at the right time to do it or if Love leaves they are then not stuck with another long term contract in pek and can be cheap as they want as they rebuild. Getting Tyson and letting Pek walk is a smart franchise move for them. Also Pek has missed a lot more games in the last few seasons than Tyson.
As for the Knicks in the short term it hurts but come 2015 it could help as well since amare coming off the books means they can attract a FA not for playing just alongside Melo but for playing for a more complete team.
Only acceptable plan is a total tank in for a deep 2014 draft.
Looking through some of the "top" players in the upcoming draft and good lord almighty, the 2013 lottery is one of the most asstastic I've seen in years.
If Kings had any sense, they'd package John Salmons and Chuck Hayes along with the 7th pick and ship 'em out for a competent SF.
If Kings had any sense, they'd package John Salmons and Chuck Hayes along with the 7th pick and ship 'em out for a competent SF.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The bluntness of this is kind of hilarious.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Kidd and Chandler went to shit after leaving Dallas. Period. Cuban knew that Kidd was on playing on borrowed time and that it's virtually impossible for Chandler to play an entire season without getting injured. Also, Jason Terry went to shit. So he's looking pretty fucking smart right now. They're also lucky that they didn't sign Deron Williams.
I look for Dallas to go after Iggy, Calderon, Granger, and several other players. They'll have a deep team instead of centering the team around two stars.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Its late but lets not change history/reality. Cuban is far from a genius if he wants to trade for injury prone Granger? Same goes for iggy whose looking to be overpaid.
He also wanted to resign kidd but kidd left (likely cause was ran into the ground after barea walked) and then Cuban had a public hissy fit.
As for Chandler, Cuban should of re-signed Chandler. They still havent found a center worth a damn and likely wont before Dirk's era is closed. Cuban let a championship team dissemble to save money and to go after Dwight who is likely going to the rockets instead.
I mean you guys didn't make the playoffs this year, will likely have to overpay the B level FA's but you think Cuban is "looking Smart"....
ThisWreckage
Banned
Dallas will be a contender this year. They almost made the playoffs last year even though Dirk missed a lot of games and their entire roster was made up of expiring contracts. I agree with his decision wholeheartedly. Teams like Indiana and Memphis have shown that you can compete in the NBA without having to assemble a team where two or more super stars colluded to end up on the same team.
LegendofJoe
Member
Unless Dwight signs with Dallas or Cuban manages to work a trade to bring in another good Center there's no way they're serious contenders next year. Signing someone like Jennings or Iggy might put Dallas back in the playoffs, but they'd be out by the 2nd round at best.
Yeah except that teams like Indiana and Memphis have had their cores together for quite a while and took several years to get more picks and off-seasons to plug in holes.
Dallas isn't close to either of those teams except for the fact that they have Dirk and that's it.
StickSoldier
Member
Pretty much everything that's going on right now will be for the best. They were screwed if they kept the same team for 5+ years or got Dwill, so this was pretty much the only safe way to move forward.
Dirk was hurt all year long pretty much and they still almost made it in. I personally don't want any of those guys, I feel like we need another guy who can be a consistent scorer. Granger hasn't been anything worth writing about in the past year except to say that George has surpassed him. I want to either go for Dwight/CP3 or have Cuban take the draft serious and get a decent pick at the 13th spot this year, then go from there.
Does Howard make them a serious contender?
As a Lakers fan I honestly don't want him anymore and I hope they let him walk or can do a sign and trade for a big that can actually play defense as well as a backup SG. Hell I will settle for a big that can rebound and shoot 3s.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Is there no chance of Pau leaving LA this offseason?
Future PhaZe
Member
Probably not. A team would likely have to gut their team to acquire him due to his large salary and they can't even obtain Pau to get rid of bad contracts because the Lakers wouldn't take them on at this stage.
He'd have to be traded, and his contract is huge.
But it is expiring.
He could be traded but supposedly the Lakers don't want any more contracts in return because we are getting LeBron in 2014. He is either staying or getting amnestied. It would be stupid to do the latter seeing as how he helped us get to 3 Finals and 2 Championships.
LegendofJoe
Member
Yeah, with Dwight and an upgrade at point the Mavericks are contenders. He won't go to Dallas though so it's a moot discussion.
I am going to get killed but Chandler is better than Howard at this point.
I just don't think that much of Howard anymore. This might change if he makes a full recovery and becomes a defensive beast again, but I am not sure if that is going to happen.
Future PhaZe
Member
I'd rather talk about Kobe with Vaghn than discuss Dwight.
Dwight is such a clown.
Dwight is such a clown.
I don't have the energy to discuss Kobe anymore.
Lets just go with the Grantland narrative that he was an above average player. Duncan is the player of the Gen. And LeBron is the greatest player of all time.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Sign and trade for Josh Smith maybe? I'd be happy with a year of Pau and Horford playing good basketball if we don't get Paul/Howard.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Who knows I just think that should be the plan. Build a team and then find a Free agent to replace Amare, even if the requires a step back to a mid/low level playoff seed for a season as you let chemistry/youth develop. Not sure if the knicks FO feel the same way they may want to try one more run to convince Melo not to opt out.
Red Blaster
Member
clippers celtics deal is dead
ainge really wants to be a 42 win team next year
ainge really wants to be a 42 win team next year
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
What is Ainge doing?
How are they actually going to convince Doc to stay now?
How are they actually going to convince Doc to stay now?
Future PhaZe
Member
There is a rumor that the Pacers might want to move Granger for Jennings.
I think I'd do it if I didn't have any other good trade options on the table. Simply put the Pacers just needed a guy who could attack offensively and make a pass into the post.Being completely unable to do anything to move the ball was what killed the Pacers, not necessarily inefficient play.
Even if Jennings just ends up chucking its a better option than Hill and DJ forcing the team to play 4 on 5 on offense. Jennings at least firing off shots keeps the opposing defense honest and gives George, Lance and Hibbert an opportunity to crash the glass for offensive rebounds.
I think I'd do it if I didn't have any other good trade options on the table. Simply put the Pacers just needed a guy who could attack offensively and make a pass into the post.Being completely unable to do anything to move the ball was what killed the Pacers, not necessarily inefficient play.
Even if Jennings just ends up chucking its a better option than Hill and DJ forcing the team to play 4 on 5 on offense. Jennings at least firing off shots keeps the opposing defense honest and gives George, Lance and Hibbert an opportunity to crash the glass for offensive rebounds.
Red Blaster
Member
reading that the clippers thought the 2 first rounders was too much
clippers gonna clip, you're ridding yourselves of dumbandre for kevin garnett and doc rivers. who cares about picks.
clippers gonna clip, you're ridding yourselves of dumbandre for kevin garnett and doc rivers. who cares about picks.
That would be awesome if they could get it to work but again Lakers management doesn't want to take on contacts so that only works if Smith is an expiring too.
I hope Buss knows something we don't because we don't see to have a plan B that I can see if we don't get Lebron.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Sacks... -_-
Now's your chance, Presti.
Fire Brooks, trade Jones/Lamb, two picks, and Perk for KG and Doc. Czzzz are the only team who would take Perk back anyways. Gotta keep Rondo happy somehow.
Bring Paul Pierce off the bench in the sixth man role.
YNB
Thabo
KD
Ibaka
KG
Truth
Jackson
Lamb
Collison
With Doc as coach that would be so damn fierce.
Fire Brooks, trade Jones/Lamb, two picks, and Perk for KG and Doc. Czzzz are the only team who would take Perk back anyways. Gotta keep Rondo happy somehow.
Bring Paul Pierce off the bench in the sixth man role.
YNB
Thabo
KD
Ibaka
KG
Truth
Jackson
Lamb
Collison
With Doc as coach that would be so damn fierce.
LyleLanley
Banned
Are the Clippers really that dumb?
Adam Blade
WWKC
Cheap Sterling gonna cheap.
just keep chanting Ubuntu at him
jordan0386
Member
lol at trade being dead.
Draft night should be interesting.
Draft night should be interesting.
FullMetalx117
Member
All of these headlines of Howard and cp3 staying in LA or going to Atlanta/Houston to team up. Reminds me in 2010 when no one saw lebron going to Miami. I can see Howard/CP3 somehow end up in Dallas
Psychological Intellect
Banned
good luck getting anywhere near the Finals CP3
If the plan was to tank why would you need the highest paid coach in the NBA to do it? They don't care if he leaves at 7 mil per.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I love how best-case scenarios for Len vary from Andrew Bogut to Brook Lopez even though those two guys have nothing in common whatsoever other than being really big. I guess that's what happens when you have no defined skills or traits other than your size.
If he's smart he'll go to Indy.
Ainge says he still wants Doc to coach. I guess they won't blow up the team now seems like run it back with Rondo.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
He won't though. He'll stay in LA.
LegendofJoe
Member
As long as they don't pay him more than 8 million per this would be a good move for the Pacers. If they pay him Granger money they've lost their damn minds.