When he wasn't high as fuck or crashed out on sugar overdose he was a good post player
He's definitely not the kind of pivot that I think you talked about though, Shaq/Howard
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2013 NBA Offseason |OT| Already Planning for the 2014 Offseason
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When he wasn't high as fuck or crashed out on sugar overdose he was a good post player
He's definitely not the kind of pivot that I think you talked about though, Shaq/Howard
Blackace
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Well he was compared to the Bucks post players
damn, that's impressive. usually there are homers pegged in here and there
Blackace
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why? Dude led all rookies in scoring (which is the sexist stat for rookies) played 82 games.. shot 42% from the field.. really no one was close to his output this year..
there are a lot of joke voters out there though. I'm surprised there wasn't a single first for Davis
Blackace
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Like when D-Rob won it the same way there was no way to justify not voting for him
Blackace
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he didn't have a bad season, if he played a bit more he might have had a shot.. because big men and all that.. I think injuries hurt him more than anything..
Lots of hub-hub from certain media members -- who vote on this shit -- at the end of the season as to how Davis should win based on ADVANCED STATS. That's why it was surprising, and it wasn't just a vocal minority.
Blackace
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again.. he had a good season. But at the end of the day, Lillard did it for 82 games.. I think that was the deal breaker
I'm obviously not disagreeing, just pleasantly surprised that the media was unanimous. We all know the media is irrational. He's only the fourth rookie to ever win the award unanimously.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Davis is better than Lillard, but Lillard's minute count is a lot higher so whatever.
See what I mean BA.
Blackace
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Lillard had a better season, but I think Davis might turn into a beast next year. He had a better rookie year than D12, who turned out ok in Orlando..
but man, compared to great big men his rookie year was.. meh. lol
Zo..(who I think his game is closest to) was a beast from day one
Blackace
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7th seed
You're probably right. All 3 will be out with injuries.
If only the Lakers could get an iron man like Boozer!!
Crazy enough, Lillard's rookie year is not far off from Derrick Rose's, except two big distinctions:
Rose scored a lot more by getting to the basket. 516 At Rim attempts verus 337. The real shocker though, is that Lillard had a HIGHER FTA rate with 3.7FTA per 36 versus Rose's 3.0 per 36.
Lillard, however, is also so much better of a shooter beyond the three. Not even close. But Rose was better from mid-range (16 to 3pt) his rookie year.
Rose scored a lot more by getting to the basket. 516 At Rim attempts verus 337. The real shocker though, is that Lillard had a HIGHER FTA rate with 3.7FTA per 36 versus Rose's 3.0 per 36.
Lillard, however, is also so much better of a shooter beyond the three. Not even close. But Rose was better from mid-range (16 to 3pt) his rookie year.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Valanciunas with zero first or second place votes and only one third? What?
Everyone was masturbating to Andre Drummond. Well, David Thorpe was because he receives a paycheck from him.
Blackace
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Rose's fta were due to the fact that he really was burning his man off the dribble so badly they couldn't even foul..
bigboss370
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Lakers goin for Chris Paul again this summer >_>
ItWasMeantToBe19
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76ers interviewing Mike Malone and Jeff Hornacek.
Would be cool to see Hornacek get a head coaching job I guess.
Would be cool to see Hornacek get a head coaching job I guess.
You know that's not possible, right?
bigboss370
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didn't stop Mitch Kupchak from being a tease at exit interviews.
LegendofJoe
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Agreed, I'd like to have both of them ideally though. Gentry as the head coach and Sampson as the head assistant.
So when ADVANCED STATS go against your guy it's called being irrational? I see.
... where did I say that...
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Glen Tayor's big ownership announcement was that he decided not to sell. Fuck.
Blackace
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Advanced stats are pretty dumb...
Depends on the stat.
Blackace
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It's good for comparing players who are close in numbers and maybe play a similar position or role.. But not to get a award
TS% isn't a bad stat. Usage can also be a useful stat. All-in-one stats like PER or no-context stats like +/- can be pretty dumb though.
Blackace
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TS is the only stat from AS I really respect... But when someone's pure stats are just so much better, bringing up advanced stats is reaching..
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The only reason Lillard's raw stats are better is because Anthony Davis had Ryan Anderson backing him up and taking minutes from him whereas Lillard's backup was Ronnie Price/Eric Maynor. They scored basically the same amount of points per 36 minutes despite the Hornets playing at an unbelievably slow pace (before even getting into Davis' defensive superiority)
victreeb3l
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edit: wrong thread
Blackace
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Per 36 is a mythical stat. You don't know what he would get until he plays 36. And having Ryan Anderson take mins from him seems like a FO problem.. I think Davis will be really good in the NBA but Lillard had a better rookie season, hands down
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Gallinari has to recover from his meniscus getting repaired before he can have his ACL surgery, sounds like he could be out for a good bit of next year.
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/329343990430318592
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/329343990430318592
Can't wait to hear his advice.
"Make sure you coach a team with the best player in the league on it."
Blackace
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Brain Shaw hiring incoming
Thats... wow. So no gallo for a year?
Makes you wonder if they make moves now. They will have to, surely?
That's sad
MorisUkunRasik
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That was my first thought too. We finally get to see if Shaw can coach.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Glen Taylor is actually buying out his minority partners. He now owns all of the Wolves, sans a small bit that Flip Saunders is getting.
Oh god.
Oh god.