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2013 NBA Offseason |OT2| The Rich Get Richer, The Poor Get Andrea Bargnani
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Bosh realized that Marx was right.
The revolution will start soon.
lol the Warriors invited Joe Alexander to training camp.
The revolution will start soon.
lol the Warriors invited Joe Alexander to training camp.
I kid because I care. <3
Psychological Intellect
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Hopefully he'll use his nice face up game more this season.Guyz, Bosh figured out the meaning of life. Heat three peat confirmed.
Syphon Filter
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h3ro get ready for benosanity.
Pablo and Beno are the new K-Ci & JoJo.
Ninja Scooter
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Considering Wilt played against a court full of John Stocktons, the fact he didn't score 100 every single game is proof Lebron is more dominant.
I don't even want to get into arguments with people that completely ignore eras and levels of competition, suffice it to say that it's easy to play against people half your size. Sports like baseball, tennis and golf are sports you can ignore eras when it comes to arguing talent, football and basketball you cannot.
Syphon Filter
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lol
MorisUkunRasik
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They scared now.
darkazcura
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Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
that's a lot of money to leave on the table for dignity.... especially when you got a champion legacy that can substitute for it
Psychological Intellect
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Also, why did I just realize that KD and Wade have that commercial campaign together? lame.
Sho_Nuff82
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Byakuya769
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Also, why did I just realize that KD and Wade have that commercial campaign together? lame.
I don't think it's contrived. A lot of people would bump Wade out of the top ten.
Psychological Intellect
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Sure, but, it just makes more sense now and having seen the interview, it's pretty clear that they're doing something.
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Mark Cuban presents Plan XY, preserve Dirk's body until he gets a decent team.
1. Handchecking is out, but zones are in. Just look at how Jordan and others abused handchecks. If you can't send help, you're a dead man walking. Lebron would've owned in the 90s b/c he's even bigger than Jordan. I'm not making the comparison to the two, but the notion that handchecking somehow made the game tougher is ridiculous. Zones are a far bigger problem than handchecks.
2. No, he gets hacked more than anyone else in the league and still finishes with a higher percentage in the paint. You can't blame the guy for having to exaggerate fouls to get a call, because the refs have decided to swallow their whistles.
3. Um...Rodman? That wasn't even hard. PEACE.
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MArk Cuban presents Plan XY, preserve Dirk's body until he gets a decent team.
Needs captioning.
Tragicomedy
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1) Zones are harder than hand-checking? Oooookay. You've clearly never played competitive ball before. Setting up plays to beat the zone is basketball 101. High school and college coaches around the country know how to do it. There's a reason the NBA has evolved from ISO plays to drive-and-kick setups with three point shooters. Hell, your team basically runs the model offense designed to counter a zone, although that fact has obviously flown over your head. Drive into a gap in between two players, draw them in, dish the ball out to an open shooter. If the D adjusts quickly, you're still only one to two passes away from an open look. Any three point shooting team will obliterate a zone setup and force them back into playing man.
2) Refs swallow their whistles for LeBron? L-O-L. Dude lowers his HGH-reinforced shoulders and bulls his way over people and gets a guaranteed call every time. LeBron is easily in Jordan-tier in terms of getting calls whenever and wherever he wants him. He also happens to be a complete bitch and flops around like a dead fish at the first sign of contact in order to draw a call.
Let's hear what the King himself says on the subject: "Any way you can get an advantage over the opponent to help your team win, so be it." Bitchmade.
3) The Worm was a 5.5 pts, 15 rebounds per game player with the Bulls. He also defended really well, though that doesn't really show up anywhere on the stats sheet. He never blocked anything nor did he steal the ball. He just harassed the hell out of guys, and did a damn good job. The dude was one of the best rebounders ever, but let's not exaggerate who he was. Rodman couldn't go off on any given night and carry the team on his back the way Wade and Bosh can.
PEACE.
Vire
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1. Defensive schemes are far more complex than anything you or I will ever face. Defenders are also longer and quicker, cutting off lanes a lot faster. Again, watch how Jordan eats defenses alive because zones aren't legal. There's a reason drive and kick has become so common nowadays. Defenses collapse a lot more readily to void the paint. Who's going to handcheck Lebron that couldn't handcheck Jordan below 30ppg? People complain about him just lowering his head and bullrushing, but now multiply that by 10 due to no zones and some undersized defender trying to handcheck a freight train.
2. No, Lebron is not Jordan-tier. Hyperbole won't make you right. He flops less than 90% of the league, but I suppose it's okay to mock him because he's clearly the center of attention. If you said Wade, I wouldn't complain, but Lebron finishes through far more contact than ANYONE in the fucking league. I know, LOL. But you acting blind doesn't make your point any stronger.
3. You asked what other HoFers there were on the team. I named one. As for Bosh, he's not able to showcase anywhere near what he can do. He's a great player, but intentionally underutilized. Jordan played on stacked teams when compared to the rest of the league.
The whole "era was greater back then" bullshit is just plain bullshit. Wait 20 years for people to look back and talk about how this era was so epically awesome and how Lebron had to compete with supermen and drive uphill both ways to the rim. Nostalgia is a bitch. The older you get, the easier it is to see. You're just being shortsighted. I assume you're young. PEACE.
Tragicomedy
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LeBron's team is equally as stacked as any team Jordan ever played on. The Decision? Three future HOFers taking salary cuts to play together and dominate the league?
Let me put it this way, since you clearly lack context here: NOBODY was complaining in the 90s that the Bulls were a stacked team. Jordan never chose to join forces with Drexler, or Magic, or Bird, or any of his peers in order to finally win a title. Jordan steamrolled over them instead.
LeBron can't say that. He couldn't beat his competition, so he joined them. In my opinion, that speaks volumes about his competitiveness, his drive, and ultimately devalues his championships.
You've also assumed wrong. I'm not young, although that's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Byakuya769
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Stahp!
curlyfriski
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This Rodman disrespect is downright shameful.
Tragicomedy
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Okay, that might not have come across the way I wanted it to. The Bulls' stars didn't conspire to create a super team. Their two best players were Bulls from the get-go. I should know, considering my Sonics traded away the Pippen pick for Olden Poly-not-so-nice.
Those two were awesome. Who else did they have on the roster?
Sonics? I thought you were a thunder fan
The Frankman
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Wait, someone was bitching when the Bulls made a draft day trade for a skinny stick kid from a podunk college name Scottie?
Someone was complaining when the Bulls took a chance on offering a contract to some foreign guy named Toni?
I know Knicks fans weren't complaining back then when they dealt Bill Cartwright to get Ewing his enforcer in Charles Oakley
The only guy who was complaining was Doug Collins, the coach who did alot of heavy lifting only to see a young Phil Jackson take his jerb.
Someone was complaining when the Bulls took a chance on offering a contract to some foreign guy named Toni?
I know Knicks fans weren't complaining back then when they dealt Bill Cartwright to get Ewing his enforcer in Charles Oakley
The only guy who was complaining was Doug Collins, the coach who did alot of heavy lifting only to see a young Phil Jackson take his jerb.
Tragicomedy
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The Thunder are the Sonics, sadly. I'm one of the few who followed them during the move.
I would love for the Sonics to be revived, Stern be damned.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
The era was better...
LBJ would be fine in the 80s 90s but MJ played against teams with the greatest centers to play the game. Zones are not better because they are limited this is why teams don't play zone for very long...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Not a big Wilt fan... dude was basically Vince Carter of his era
I know, just saying that he had to play against one of the best defenders in the history of the game.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
If he was even as passionate as a clown like Shaq was he would have had a lot of rings
Yep.
Sho_Nuff82
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The Bulls weren't even favored in the '91 and '93 Finals.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Of course they weren't in 91...
child please
93 was arguable, but the Suns did have the best record.
91? The Lakers were heavily favored.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Gallinari is targeting late November to return from his ACL/not really ACL knee injury.
The Nuggets' frontcourt still confuses me. Generally when you have super flawed players like McGee, you surround them with players that don't share their strengths and weaknesses. Instead the Nuggets have Faried and Hickson as the other big men on the team and they have the exact same strengths and weaknesses (though in differing degrees)
The Nuggets' frontcourt still confuses me. Generally when you have super flawed players like McGee, you surround them with players that don't share their strengths and weaknesses. Instead the Nuggets have Faried and Hickson as the other big men on the team and they have the exact same strengths and weaknesses (though in differing degrees)
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