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I figure 16-23 feet is considered mid range, but ok. I still don't know how 40.6% from three and 46% from midrange isn't one of the best but ok.
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Hasphat'sAnts
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Jarrett Jack be like, "get outta here, 'Bron, mid ranger jumpers be my thang."
And Luke Ridnour says, "Word."
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I think Valanciunas' ceiling is above Cousins'. JV is far above Cousins physically and mentally and I'm not sure Cousins' skill level is actually better.
Definitely should have traded him for Harden though.
well i figured because there are a good amount of players who shoot better from those ranges, that usually means he isn't one of the best.
he's a great shooter, and that's really valuable for a player of his skillset, but he's not one of the best shooters in the game.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Psychological Intellect
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well shit if he's one of 20 or so dudes in the league that shoot that well then I'm considering him one of the best.
iamshadowlark
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What I'm telling you is basic college statistics, maybe even HS level.
One attempt per game is nothing to go off of. James could average 1 3pt attempt per game, make .5 of them and be a 50% 3pt shooter. It's a misleading sample size which will mislead 9 times out of 10.
Future PhaZe
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Seems like Bron has good taste in music
Hasphat'sAnts
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Don't think Val will ever be the rebounder Cousins is/can be. He's already one of the 4 best passing centers in the league.
Val's got a great face up game already and his offensive arsenal's gonna keep growing, but Cousins plays below the rim so he'll probably still churn out 20/12/3 long past his athletic prime.
If only he can get his head right.
I kind of wondered how he was being employed by them in the first place. And that's saying a lot from a company that employs Broussard.
uh, no he isnt.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Noah, Gasol brothers, Monroe, and then there's a barren wasteland.
He's not even a better passer than Blake Griffin, David Lee, Bogut, KG, or Odom either. I'm probably forgetting a few in California as well.
IMO.. Diaw, LMA, and Horford are better and more efficient.
Al Jefferson actually has preferable assist statics if that puts it in perspective.
Whoops on calling Thibbs an idiot.. Favors tweaked his back so thats why he didnt play the 2nd half.
at least broussard appears on tv and has "sources"
i have no idea what palmer's role was besides write stupid things
ok well you insinuated that he was top 4 in your original post sooo that's kinda different.
oh thanks for the instruction teach!
want me to use his past 3 years combined or something? 44%, still not great. he averaged his highest % from 16-23 this past year but shot it nearly 2 times a game less than every other year he has played. he is still an inconsistent mid range shooter, and i'm not ready to throw that conclusion aside because he had his first good year shooting from 16-23 feet away.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Griffin and Odom play center?
And I don't really know what makes you think Cousins is so trash. He's a fantastic passer.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Cousins' passing is fine (though he seems to try to make cool plays instead of smart plays pretty often and turns the ball over then), but not better than Bogut's or Duncan's/Splitter's (depending on who you view as the center for the Spurs).
Defensively, I don't know if he has much upside. He's spectacularly bad right now and has some major issues with his leaping ability and quickness. I think Valanciunas' potential on that end is much greater and Valanciunas is probably going to end up being a far more efficient scorer who stretches the defense more.
Defensively, I don't know if he has much upside. He's spectacularly bad right now and has some major issues with his leaping ability and quickness. I think Valanciunas' potential on that end is much greater and Valanciunas is probably going to end up being a far more efficient scorer who stretches the defense more.
Odom still does at times. Blake ends up doing it for stints when Dumbandre is hiding under the bench to get away from the free throw line.
I'm probably the biggest Cousins fan in the thread. He's a good passer... but that's it. He's not great by any means and his assist numbers are only 'high' because he's surrounded by gunners who'd rather shoot than feed their children. Cousins should be considered a center only by Horford's definition - if they had a real center on that roster, then he wouldn't be playing center.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Cousins is kind of a big man tweener in a bad way. Not explosive enough to protect the paint to play center, lacking in quickness and shooting to the point where he would have serious issues at PF.
I don't know if I'd want a big man who shoots 29% on jumpers and has issues moving laterally playing PF.
He's better at PF than at C though. Meh.
The only mexican player in NBA, Gustavo Ayon, is waived by the Bucks 
he has been playing for 3 teams in almost a year, feel kinda bad.
Btw, here is the NBA 2K14 soundtrack chosen by Lebron on Spotify, it sounds good.
he has been playing for 3 teams in almost a year, feel kinda bad.Btw, here is the NBA 2K14 soundtrack chosen by Lebron on Spotify, it sounds good.
LegendofJoe
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I'm almost certain we're going to try again to make a play for Cousins next offseason. An offer of either Zeller or whoever Sacramento wants with our 2014 pick plus the Detroit pick and Al Jeff should more than get it done. I'd prefer to give then neither Zeller or our pick, and instead package both of our owed firsts and Taylor; but there's no way Sac would accept that. Either way a lineup of:
Walker
whoever
MKG
Cousins
Biyombo
Would have major potential. We'd just need to plug in a lights out shooter at the 2.
Psychological Intellect
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not terrible.The only mexican player in NBA, Gustavo Ayon, is waived by the Bucks
Btw, here is the NBA 2K14 soundtrack chosen by Lebron on Spotify, it sounds good.
more radio songs that are already overplayed, this shit gets tiring. stop letting famous people choose soundtracks, they don't put any underground or up and coming artists.The only mexican player in NBA, Gustavo Ayon, is waived by the Bucks
Btw, here is the NBA 2K14 soundtrack chosen by Lebron on Spotify, it sounds good.
LegendofJoe
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I'd rather we just stay put, use our picks, and develop them to play together but we've been rumored to be interested in Cousins every time trade talk comes out about him. And where there's smoke there's usually fire.
Cousins and Jefferson frontcourt? LOL
Future PhaZe
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The fact that Philly is going to rebuild before a lot of teams that tanked for years is crazy
LegendofJoe
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Jefferson would be traded in the deal for sure
No, just 2. That's more than I'd be willing to give up, but that would probably be what we'd have to offer to get Sac to the table.
I don't think Jefferson can be traded until January 15th.
Black Mamba
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Thought it was Dec 15
LegendofJoe
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That wouldn't be a problem because I think we'd probably like to see what our team looks like and where our lottery chips fall before we make a move as big as trading for Cousins.
agreed, the kings dangled him out there and didn't get anything they liked, now they are going to stick with him and hope for the best imo.
LegendofJoe
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If he doesn't mesh with the new coaching staff and players they brought in he'll be dealt this offseason imo.
They couldn't get anything for him when he was on a rookie scale, once they sign him to the new deal it'd be even harder to find trade partners of their liking.
I think its done /shrug
Because he took all the shots.
Have fun with a team cancer if kidd doesn't rein him in.
Don't really understand why smokey was banned, but damn I haven't read a gaming side post that...frantic in a long time. Kids defending and arguing shit like their life depended on it.
Anyway, since hes banned and will read this: Lin is a better pg than anyone the rockets can get and you should get your head out yo ass and realize that Patrick Beverly collects dumb fouls on defense and his J sucks more than Lin's. Hoooty-hoooo
Anyway, since hes banned and will read this: Lin is a better pg than anyone the rockets can get and you should get your head out yo ass and realize that Patrick Beverly collects dumb fouls on defense and his J sucks more than Lin's. Hoooty-hoooo
LegendofJoe
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If a guy has been given multiple chances to make it work in your organization and he still doesn't fit you pretty much have to move on. They'll take the best they can get if that happens.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
NBA is all about that underground :/
This is the Kings. They'll probably super-max him right before he goes to prison for aiding the Taliban.
i miss old 2k soundtracks, that's all.
Speaking of hip-hop, I haven't heard a NY artist rep a Knicks player in a long while. I was listening to a NY mixtape the other day and heard basically "I go so hard like when Lebrons in town". I was like wtf, in no other city is that shit acceptable. For the lulz, I listened to Ortiz and Budden thinking their soft asses would rep NY, and they both talked about Lebron. Last person I heard talk positively about a player was Ross, and it was Melo.
Basically, NY artists are fake fans, no one likes the Knicks, and Lebron has surprisingly decent taste.
Basically, NY artists are fake fans, no one likes the Knicks, and Lebron has surprisingly decent taste.
Syphon Filter
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lloyd banks is a knicks fan.
Psychological Intellect
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isn't he dead?
captmcblack
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The Knicks weren't even competent at basketball between 2001 - 2010. What rapper would namedrop them? I'm sure there were plenty of NY rappers in that period that referenced NY players, though - wouldn't be surprised if Jamal Crawford, Marbury, or any of the 90s Knicks got referenced.
Nowadays, I'd sooner expect JR Smith to be namedropped in a rap song.
Nowadays, I'd sooner expect JR Smith to be namedropped in a rap song.
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