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2013 NBA Playoffs |OT| Lakers started from the bottom, and they still there
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Gully State
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Bring back Adonal Foyle too ..
MegaKungFuRadio
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Breaks my god damn heart.
Dominican Power
Member
I can't even watch Curry play anymore. One fucking pick away...
It hurts. You're lucky you hopped off that Nuggets bandwagon in time. lol
Psychological Intellect
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go hoooooooome nuggets.'
bullshit tech though
bullshit tech though
RBelong2Us
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Ws have an 8 man rotation where three of those players are rookies that are contributing mightily
MegaKungFuRadio
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How many times can you implode in one game?
Black Mamba
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I feel ya. I personally have nothing against the Nuggets, just never been a Karl fan. And I like guys like Lawson, Gallo, Faried.
Like I said, my statement isn't towards fans but to guys like IWMTB19 who overrated the close to their season and some analysts on the web who overrate certain things and thought Denver could come out of the West.
Going forward, Denver needs to find a star somehow. Lawson is a #2, Iggy/Gallo are #3s, and Faried is a solid effort guy. I don't know what star could possibly be available, but without one it will be difficult to win in the playoffs.
RBelong2Us
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Bogut has shown he's more important than Lee
Lee carried the team through the first three months of the season. He's more valuable against bigger teams.
MegaKungFuRadio
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I don't think anyone thought a healthy Bogut isn't worth much more than Lee
I find it hilarious that Mamba can even talk about coaches. You've literally had an embarrassment of riches at that job. And Karl has always been on the receiving end of those coaches winning, but thats cause he's never had the talent of those lakers teams.
Gallo is hurt (who was huuuuge for them offensively and defensively), Faried rolled that ankle and didn't play the first and part of the second. And Ty had the foot injury. Let the man cook, hes done a hell of a job with this team. Its just Steph is playing at a superstar level and Jack is playing on that 6th man of the year type ish. They're catching fire at the right time, and it shouldn't be an indictment of Karl.
Gallo is hurt (who was huuuuge for them offensively and defensively), Faried rolled that ankle and didn't play the first and part of the second. And Ty had the foot injury. Let the man cook, hes done a hell of a job with this team. Its just Steph is playing at a superstar level and Jack is playing on that 6th man of the year type ish. They're catching fire at the right time, and it shouldn't be an indictment of Karl.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I overrated the Nuggets a lot, but I didn't base most my liking of them around advanced stats. The games I saw made me think that Koufos and Iguodala had shored up that defense to acceptable levels while their offense was still amazing and the numbers just seemed to support that idea. Their defense hasn't remotely translated to the playoffs and that's where all of their issues are coming from.
The fact that I loved their style of play and the players on their team (other than McGee and Magic obviously) and their dominant winning percentage down the stretch also did contribute to my opinions on them being wrong.
...However, you (Mamba) and me had the exact same playoff projection for the Nuggets (beating the Warriors in 5 before losing to the Spurs) so beating your chest about this comes off as bizarre.
The fact that I loved their style of play and the players on their team (other than McGee and Magic obviously) and their dominant winning percentage down the stretch also did contribute to my opinions on them being wrong.
...However, you (Mamba) and me had the exact same playoff projection for the Nuggets (beating the Warriors in 5 before losing to the Spurs) so beating your chest about this comes off as bizarre.
With the nuggets iq, i don't think it matter much. I guess there is some truth to fast ball doesn't win championships. I feel bad for george karl.
What kind of basketball idiot would ever think David Lee is more important than a healthy Andrew Bogut?
Seriously what did he do to Jackson? So rough. :/No Biedrins
I like Karl, but it's reaching a point where this is becoming a trend. He's had very talented teams, and they have always come up short. They always seem to have low IQ, and very little fight in them come playoff time. We've seen it with his Melo teams, and this is just a continuation of that. It's frustrating, and part of the reason why there isn't a lot of hype with the team.
It would be nice to have the #1 guy, but I don't think it matters if the coaching isn't there. Look at the difference between the way GS and the Nuggets are playing. GS is playing with heart and effort, where if the ball doesn't fall their way Denver gives up. That's more of a coaching problem than a player problem.
I don't think they get rid of Karl if he loses the series, but it might not be a bad idea if they can get someone in there to drive the guys harder than Karl. Maybe not? I don't really know what the answer is.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Blackace, Mamba's tag is infected with Malware for some reason, I think you should change it.
They have no half court offense. No matter what advanced stats say, that don't get you anywhere in the playoffs.
Black Mamba
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Karl makes no good adjustments, though. That's the issue. He panics and throws out lineups they aren't used to playing with as well.
I go back to the previous game where he decides to put Iggy on Curry and also double him, which is stupid. Either you put Iggy on him 1 on 1 or you double with 2 other dudes so Iggy can use his athleticism to help in the passing lanes and rotations.
But this is a staple of Karl. Either doesn't react soon enough or he panics. And his team follows suit as a result.
Karl's teams routinely under perform in the playoffs. At some point fingers should be pointed his way.
Black Mamba
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David Lee was still playing then. I've always believed Lee is a net negative. That changed things!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Their offense is still fine without their best player, they're getting nuked on defense which I thought they had figured out.
Psychological Intellect
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So LeBron is getting his MVP this week, right?
Dominican Power
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Bu bu bu but The Nuggets have a top 10 player at every position. They don't rely on solely one player.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Warriors last three seasons w/out David Lee: 3-18. Warriors this series w/out D-Lee: 3-0
the idea that Lee is a negative is completely absurd and not grounded in reality at all. He was their 2nd best player this year.
Psychological Intellect
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aww shit, I wanted kenny to loose
ItWasMeantToBe19
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They were trying to intentionally lose last year after they shut down Lee.
slightconfuse
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Jet Still got it
It's amazing how completely out of it koufus looks atm.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Sure but that doesn't change how good they were this year with Lee.
They are not a better team with Draymond Green playing more minutes. Thats just insane.
Ninja Scooter
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they get a C/PF who just averaged 13/12/7 in a playoff series on the final year of an expiring contract. It doesn't hur their financial situation at all
MegaKungFuRadio
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3D vs Jet!
Black Mamba
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Curry missed a bunch of those games too, though. And they tanked.
Lee's defense is atrocious, which is really bad for big men. He reminds me of Boozer, tbh. He gets his 20 and 10 but his impact is barely there.
it's mostly Landry getting the minutes, though, who has a bigger impact. Green backs up Barnes, no?
CherryWoodFuton
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If I was to pull an Emwitus and become a fan of 2 teams my 2nd team would be the Warriors. My dark horse pick in the West
Iamwolfthing
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Barnes and Landry are getting most of Lee's minutes.
Pretty fitting that this came from a Heat fan lol .
