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2014-15 TV Cancellations: Under the Dome canned, what will CBS do with CG cows next?
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RatskyWatsky
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Predictions!
Black-ish - 3.2
Pending adjustments, I was off .3 for AoS and .5 for NCIS: NO. I thought my predictions were on the safe-low side, so I'm sort of surprised the actual numbers came in even lower.
dont feed the troll
Black-ish - 3.2
Pending adjustments, I was off .3 for AoS and .5 for NCIS: NO. I thought my predictions were on the safe-low side, so I'm sort of surprised the actual numbers came in even lower.
dont feed the troll
dead souls
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I don't know, I feel a lot of bursting when I watch Arrow.
Dat salmon ladder.
Arrow (and soon to be Flash) are going strong by CW standards. If you'd put them on any other network, they'd likely be canceled after one season.
dead souls
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I don't know, I think they could be solid Tuesday performers for Fox after last night's ratings.
Or they'd be strong contenders on that network because a lot of people aren't watching it because it is just on The CW.
firehawk12
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So Faking it, the MTV show about the fake-but-not-fake lesbian couple, dropped kind of a big bombshell yesterday when it revealed that one of its characters is
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A show that I was kind of checked out on suddenly became interesting game with a giant swerve. Certainly I think it's one of the first time that I've seen a character like is on American television.
intersexed
A show that I was kind of checked out on suddenly became interesting game with a giant swerve. Certainly I think it's one of the first time that I've seen a character like is on American television.
Chicken or egg
Arrow does really well for the reach the network has... does it mean it has a lower reach in general or would it do better with wider exposure.
I'm actually kind of curious the... like streaming and stuff for CW shows. Or maybe I spend too much time on CW because Supernatural seems huge, but would also be low on most networks
jamesinclair
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I have no interest in comic book superhero stuff. Im sick of it being like 20 movies a year and now like 20 tv shows. The faster they bomb, the better.
Also, the new American Dad episodes arent on Hulu or Fox.com . Screw you Fox.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. adjusted up two tenths, from a 1.9 to a 2.1. (I came so close!)
Tragicomedy
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Superhero stuff is great! I think we should raise more of a stink about Random Police Procedural #258.
firehawk12
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Well, just look at something like Supernatural, which somehow keeps on trucking. You're talking about an engaged younger female audience, and the CW managed to build that audience to the point where they can support these other shows. Would Supernatural be on season 10 if it was on CBS or something?
dead souls
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Finally going to fold?!?!?
They're contracts are up with Tribune in 2016 and have to be re-upped...
dead souls
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But I'm going to watch six shows on the network this year, don't I count for anything?
*cries*
RatskyWatsky
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RatskyWatsky
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What happens to their shows if they "fold" or whatever?
haha
Everyone else should get in on the prediction game! It's fun!
I'm talking about if the ratings start dropping heavily this season. Last season they started with a 5.0 and went down to a 2.1. If it stays around a 2.0 then I doubt it'll get cancelled but if it falls heavily from the premiere it might be gone.
Father_Brain
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Oh yeah, of course. I'm inclined to think it's at least found a reliable audience - the S1 ratings plateaued months before the post-TWS episodes, after all - but we'll see next week.
CreeperBlocks
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What were Forever's Numbers? That show actually has an interesting premise. I could see it being the Next Castle or Mentalist.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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RatskyWatsky
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The preview on Monday earned a 1.5 but was adjusted up to a 1.7 and the second episode that aired yesterday earned a 1.7 but was adjusted up to a 1.8. It's doing fairly well thus far.
RatskyWatsky
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Big Brother renewed for two more seasons.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
well it employs the boss's wife, so...
Lactose_Intolerant
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I doubt that, the show isn't humorous at all.
RatskyWatsky
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your boss' wife? is she one of the contestants? :O
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
RatskyWatsky
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ohhh, Les Moonves. I'm sure if BB were cancelled, his wife would land on her feet.
RatskyWatsky
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dear god
firehawk12
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Isn't she on some talk show on CBS regularly anyway?ohhh, Les Moonves. I'm sure if BB were cancelled, his wife would land on her feet.
They probably just move it to Netflix with all the other Marvel TV shows if that happened.
Why does that bother you? You can just not watch them, problem solved!
RatskyWatsky
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Steelyuhas
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dear god
This is the fault of everyone who watched the Sound of Music. I hold you responsible for this.
PHOENIXZERO
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Well that looks awful...
I've wondered for a while if The CW's availability shrunk with the UPN/WB merger or if their low viewership numbers is just another sign of the modern era of television and perhaps part the stigma that network has developed. Because back in the early 2000s Smallville was able to hit over 8M viewers on the WB when it was on Tuesday nights but today I'm not sure if anything on the CW manages to get even half that on a routine basis and Arrow only manages a bit over 3M total on average in its first two seasons it seems. I think it's going to be interesting to see how The Flash does since the character is better known than Green Arrow and there's A LOT more hype behind it. If it doesn't at the very least beat Arrow's first episode (leak or no leak) with a bit over 4M live viewers I can't see that as being anything other than a disappointment. Hell, Arrow still suffers from the CW/Smallville stigma and its first several episodes didn't seem to help.
Always wondered how these shows would've done on a larger network but if you just took their numbers on the WB/CW they wouldn't have made it, even if viewership numbers doubled things would be shaky except for Smallville which would've probably still lasted at least five seasons that it was originally intended but Arrow would've been on much shakier ground on a bigger network that wasn't owned by the studio that owns it. On the other hand maybe Arrow would do much better on a larger network given its 18-49 numbers with a relatively small total viewership. Its S2 finale did a .9 with 2.37M live viewers (at least I think that's before DVR numbers were factored in) which seems like an impressive ratio given the competition such as Survivor which was the top rated show did a 2.6 with 9.93M viewers, if Arrow had that many viewers it'd possibly result in a 18-49 of 3.8, rounded up. Hell Criminal Minds had its finale later that night and did 2.7 with 12M viewers. Naturally you can't take a show and assume it'd do anywhere near that much better but goddamn. Good thing that more factors are finally being considered these days.
I do wonder what they'd do with a possible budget increase that would come with such a higher rating. *Waits for the "hire better actors" response.*
I've wondered for a while if The CW's availability shrunk with the UPN/WB merger or if their low viewership numbers is just another sign of the modern era of television and perhaps part the stigma that network has developed. Because back in the early 2000s Smallville was able to hit over 8M viewers on the WB when it was on Tuesday nights but today I'm not sure if anything on the CW manages to get even half that on a routine basis and Arrow only manages a bit over 3M total on average in its first two seasons it seems. I think it's going to be interesting to see how The Flash does since the character is better known than Green Arrow and there's A LOT more hype behind it. If it doesn't at the very least beat Arrow's first episode (leak or no leak) with a bit over 4M live viewers I can't see that as being anything other than a disappointment. Hell, Arrow still suffers from the CW/Smallville stigma and its first several episodes didn't seem to help.
Always wondered how these shows would've done on a larger network but if you just took their numbers on the WB/CW they wouldn't have made it, even if viewership numbers doubled things would be shaky except for Smallville which would've probably still lasted at least five seasons that it was originally intended but Arrow would've been on much shakier ground on a bigger network that wasn't owned by the studio that owns it. On the other hand maybe Arrow would do much better on a larger network given its 18-49 numbers with a relatively small total viewership. Its S2 finale did a .9 with 2.37M live viewers (at least I think that's before DVR numbers were factored in) which seems like an impressive ratio given the competition such as Survivor which was the top rated show did a 2.6 with 9.93M viewers, if Arrow had that many viewers it'd possibly result in a 18-49 of 3.8, rounded up. Hell Criminal Minds had its finale later that night and did 2.7 with 12M viewers. Naturally you can't take a show and assume it'd do anywhere near that much better but goddamn. Good thing that more factors are finally being considered these days.
I do wonder what they'd do with a possible budget increase that would come with such a higher rating. *Waits for the "hire better actors" response.*
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
On the show he takes every little thing and amps it up to screaming levels. It's like a less funny George Costanza.
sparky2112
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Yeah, but despite the fact that she needs to eat a whole bunch of sandwiches, she's hot. And she's rockin' that short hair...mmmmmmm....
Honestly, I haven't watched Shield since the first episode or so was "low quality." It seemed like Marvel was biting off more than it could chew in attempting to match their movie budgets on a shoe-string TV show budget. Did they actually fix the wonky CGI and attempt to use less effects?
It's probably the first "Whedon" TV-show I can't really care for because of that. Everything about it just seemed like "Marvel has no clue what it's doing for this."
Giving JamesSinclaire the time of day... *shakes head*
Well, I think it does/has reached a smaller audience overall.
I mean just for comparison's sake, The CW wasn't available for me for the first 2-3 episodes of Arrow... and I live in New York City. (I think there was a dispute with them and Cablevision at the time)
Hey double-post, but Black-ish had a strong debut 10.8 million and pretty much retained Modern Family's audience.
http://variety.com/2014/data/news/a...s-reality-vets-win-night-in-demos-1201313297/
http://variety.com/2014/data/news/a...s-reality-vets-win-night-in-demos-1201313297/
Cornballer
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Thanks for posting the numbers. Here's the full set from TVbtN in grid format.
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