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[spwolf]

General rule of thumb for public tv - good shows will certainly get cancelled.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Fox orders American remake of BBC's Luther. I guess they're going to try again with the British remakes? Gracepoint/Broadchurch didn't do well for them at all. Not sure why they're trying again.

FUCK OFF NO

NO NO NO NO

Who wanted this? BBC Luther is the best.

 

[Penguin]

Fox orders American remake of BBC's Luther. I guess they're going to try again with the British remakes? Gracepoint/Broadchurch didn't do well for them at all. Not sure why they're trying again.

And apparently no Elba on-board the show so...

 

[jamesinclair]

Fox orders American remake of BBC's Luther. I guess they're going to try again with the British remakes? Gracepoint/Broadchurch didn't do well for them at all. Not sure why they're trying again.

What was the last UK remake to be successful?

House of Cards?

 

[Cornballer]

There's a thread up for Fox / Luther discussion here.

 

[Weapxn]

I'm about 15 minutes in to State of Affairs, and I hate Heigl's character. I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish this.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I'm about 15 minutes in to State of Affairs, and I hate Heigl's character. I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish this.

She evolves throughout the pilot. They start of with her being insufferable followed by some more lighthearted moments with colleagues. Which is the facade? I don't know but it made her more relatable and I think she has the average citizens best interest at heart and that makes me comfortable.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

What was the last UK remake to be successful?

House of Cards?

Getting On

Spoiler

creatively, anyway

She evolves throughout the pilot. They start of with her being insufferable followed by some more lighthearted moments with colleagues. Which is the facade? I don't know but it made her more relatable and I think she has the average citizens best interest at heart and that makes me comfortable.

rafa pls youre killing me hea

 

[maxcriden]

She evolves throughout the pilot. They start of with her being insufferable followed by some more lighthearted moments with colleagues. Which is the facade? I don't know but it made her more relatable and I think she has the average citizens best interest at heart and that makes me comfortable.

Rafa pls, I'm starting to think your love for Star-Crossed was just a ruse ;__;

 

[RatskyWatsky]

TBS renewed American Dad.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Ms. Heigl scores a 2.2.

I was pretty close!

 

[anaron]

She evolves throughout the pilot. They start of with her being insufferable followed by some more lighthearted moments with colleagues. Which is the facade? I don't know but it made her more relatable and I think she has the average citizens best interest at heart and that makes me comfortable.

Lmao

 

[G0523]

TBS renewed American Dad.

For 22 episodes! That's a lot for a cable channel!

 

[BodiesWithoutOrgans]

TBS renewed American Dad.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

 

[TheAbsolution]

TBS renewed American Dad.

WOOHOO!
22 episodes? DOUBLE WOOHOO!

 

[morningbus]

TBS renewed American Dad.

For 22 episodes! That's a lot for a cable channel!

Oh wow. They must be pretty happy with its performance.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Might explain why Arnett is on his 360 playing Warface non fucking stop. Does the dude eat?

 

[Malvingt2]

Shame on this thread for not telling me how entertaining The 100 is.

One of the best show on tv right now. We have Clarke the only hero that we need and an awesome opening credit for this season. The show is not afraid to go places.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Is The 100 good good or CW good (ala Arrow and Flash)?

 

[Clevinger]

It's good good. Takes a handful of not-so-great episodes to get there though.

 

[Malvingt2]

Is The 100 good good or CW good (ala Arrow and Flash)?

Good Good. A very entertaining show right out the bat. You are going to counter some chessy things here and there "CW" but man the characters are just great and nobody is safe. Clarke is just an amazing protagonist. Season 2 opens the door to bigger scale of the world and more "groups" The show excited me.

 

[Jest Chillin]

Is The 100 good good or CW good (ala Arrow and Flash)?

It's... similar to Arrow in that it takes a bit to hit it's stride but when it does, it doesn't stop. I'm hesitant to say it's "good good" because it's still got the CW tropes.. but I feel like there's less general cheesiness than Arrow and Flash once it gets going. It has less bad lines in particular (I can't recall any from my Netflix viewing).

I'll tell you right off the bat that it takes about 3-4 episodes to hit it's stride though.

 

[Clevinger]

It has less bad lines in particular (I can't recall any from my Netflix viewing).

WE'RE BACK, BITCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

 

[Cornballer]

Ratsky - let's just say that The 100 is better than it needs to be.

WE'RE BACK, BITCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Well, that was a layup.

 

[anaron]

WE'RE BACK, BITCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Iconic

And Ratsky it's waaaaaay better written than Arrow so check it out if you're worried about that similarity. (Start with last 3 eps of S1)

 

[Malvingt2]

It's... similar to Arrow in that it takes a bit to hit it's stride but when it does, it doesn't stop. I'm hesitant to say it's "good good" because it's still got the CW tropes.. but I feel like there's less general cheesiness than Arrow and Flash once it gets going. It has less bad lines in particular (I can't recall any from my Netflix viewing).

I'll tell you right off the bat that it takes about 3-4 episodes to hit it's stride though.

never forget.

 

[TripOpt55]

I think The 100 is definitely the best show right now on The CW. I'm not sure I'd say it was legitimately great TV until this season which is really top-notch stuff. I might be forgetting something, but it might be my favorite drama this Fall so far other than The Good Wife.

 

[jamesinclair]

Is The 100 good good or CW good (ala Arrow and Flash)?

The pilot is very CW, then it continues into good good land.

Apparently everyone here knew that but was hiding it

 

[Malvingt2]

The pilot is very CW, then it continues into good good land.

Apparently everyone here knew that but was hiding it

I don't think so lol... We might not talk about it in here but The 100 thread is active not as a lot of shows but we do talk about it.

 

[Jest Chillin]

WE'RE BACK, BITCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Ratsky - let's just say that The 100 is better than it needs to be.Well, that was a layup.

never forget.

To be fair, that line is squarely in the early set of eps that I pointed out one has to get through to get to the good stuff.

Also I may have sub-consciously blocked it from my mind.

 

[jamesinclair]

To be fair, that line is squarely in the early set of eps that I pointed out one has to get through to get to the good stuff.

Also I may have sub-consciously blocked it from my mind.

It was right between two very loud pop songs

 

[Jest Chillin]

It was right between two very loud pop songs

If one of them was Radioactive, then I'm sure it was lost in the litany of CW Radioactive-themed montages.

 

[Sober]

If one of them was Radioactive, then I'm sure it was lost in the litany of CW Radioactive-themed montages.

Actually one of them was Radioactive. But at least the lyrics vs. what were being shown were actually working for it.

 

[ivysaur12]

I actually find The 100 to be pretty silly. I was sort of keeping up with it, but this season already confirmed my suspicion that it's rudderless and without direction, or a direction that makes sense.

It falls into a genre trap of incident for incident's sake and there havent been any underlying character motivations I've found particularly compelling or interesting. And they mythology has a kitchen-sink-maybe-this-will-work feel to it.

But people really like it. So, your mileage may vary.

 

[Mr.Swag]

Cant make threads so didn't know where to put this http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fx-picks-up-tom-hardy-749912 Tom Hardy show coming

 

[kurahador]

never forget.

To be fair, that was the first 5 minutes in the first episode. The show got alot better starting from episode 3.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

It's good good. Takes a handful of not-so-great episodes to get there though.

Good Good. A very entertaining show right out the bat. You are going to counter some chessy things here and there "CW" but man the characters are just great and nobody is safe. Clarke is just an amazing protagonist. Season 2 opens the door to bigger scale of the world and more "groups" The show excited me.

It's... similar to Arrow in that it takes a bit to hit it's stride but when it does, it doesn't stop. I'm hesitant to say it's "good good" because it's still got the CW tropes.. but I feel like there's less general cheesiness than Arrow and Flash once it gets going. It has less bad lines in particular (I can't recall any from my Netflix viewing).

I'll tell you right off the bat that it takes about 3-4 episodes to hit it's stride though.

And Ratsky it's waaaaaay better written than Arrow so check it out if you're worried about that similarity. (Start with last 3 eps of S1)

I think The 100 is definitely the best show right now on The CW. I'm not sure I'd say it was legitimately great TV until this season which is really top-notch stuff. I might be forgetting something, but it might be my favorite drama this Fall so far other than The Good Wife.

The pilot is very CW, then it continues into good good land.

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll try to check it out when I have some more free time. *sigh* like I needed one more show to watch XP

Ratsky - let's just say that The 100 is better than it needs to be.

oh my god

 

[ivysaur12]

I'm sure this will work out perfectly. Yup.

Nielsen plans to start measuring SVOD services next month for the first time, The Wall Street Journal reports, citing Nielsen client document. Nielsen meters can measure viewership without the OK from Netflix, Amazon Prime and the like — by analyzing a program’s audio components to identify which shows are being streamed. Netflix and Amazon did not comment. The news follows grumbling from content owners that there’s no way to measure consumption of their properties online. The new idea doesn’t address that issue, according to the WSJ, and Nielsen has been slow to count to the increasing viewership on mobile and tablets.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I'm sure this will work out perfectly. Yup.

analyzing a program’s audio components to identify which shows are being streamed

O-okay?

 

[TheAbsolution]

I'm sure this will work out perfectly. Yup.

Wha? How the hell does analyzing the audio of a stream gonna tell that?

 

[anaron]

I actually find The 100 to be pretty silly. I was sort of keeping up with it, but this season already confirmed my suspicion that it's rudderless and without direction, or a direction that makes sense.

It falls into a genre trap of incident for incident's sake and there havent been any underlying character motivations I've found particularly compelling or interesting. And they mythology has a kitchen-sink-maybe-this-will-work feel to it.

But people really like it. So, your mileage may vary.

I like the show a lot but I can't entirely disagree with this. Lol

 

[Rhaknar]

wait The 100 is good? I've been boycotting it for stealing my Zoe away from Person of Interest

Spoiler

not really but I havent watched it, guess I need to fix that

 

[spindoctor]

Is The 100 good good or CW good (ala Arrow and Flash)?

Bit late but I'll go against the consensus and say that it's definitely a CW good show. I don't think anyone would seriously pit it against the good shows of cable or even good network TV. They've hit on a few interesting themes (post apocalyptic survival, Lord of the Flies, tribal warfare) and they do make it work reasonably well, but it's still very much a CW show. Love triangles, teen drama... it's all there.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I actually find The 100 to be pretty silly. I was sort of keeping up with it, but this season already confirmed my suspicion that it's rudderless and without direction, or a direction that makes sense.

It falls into a genre trap of incident for incident's sake and there havent been any underlying character motivations I've found particularly compelling or interesting. And they mythology has a kitchen-sink-maybe-this-will-work feel to it.

But people really like it. So, your mileage may vary.

Bit late but I'll go against the consensus and say that it's definitely a CW good show. I don't think anyone would seriously pit it against the good shows of cable or even good network TV. They've hit on a few interesting themes (post apocalyptic survival, Lord of the Flies, tribal warfare) and they do make it work reasonably well, but it's still very much a CW show. Love triangles, teen drama... it's all there.

Thanks for tempering my expectations a bit. I think I'll still give it a whirl though (but not right yet, especially with the Lilyhammer -> Marco Polo -> Mozart in the Jungle VoD Original Combo-Wombo right around the corner).

 

[beat]

I'm sure this will work out perfectly. Yup.

Do streaming boxes feed audio into Nielsen's box? Or is there a mic that's always on and listening to ambient noise in the room with the TV?

 

[Conflict NZ]

Pretty happy for American Dad, still crazy that it's gotten to 11 seasons!

 

[Purple Cheeto]

I seem to remember reading on Twitter a week or so ago that Royal Pains got a 2 year extension. That would take it to around season 8 or 9 I think. And Burn Notice got around that many too. Makes me wonder why their other good shows are reaching EOL around season 5 (White Collar, Covert Affairs). I mean, the reason is obviously money, but if they don't have anything good waiting in the wings to replace them, why not keep them on for longer?

Also a bit confused why they're trying to make Graceland happen. It was barely okay in it's first season and downright terrible in it's second. Still renewed for it's third.

I never got into Covert Affairs but White Collar has just run out of steam. There's really nowhere else to go with it.

Supernatural as much I love it bases a lot of its lore and stuff from Constantine. It's why I feel sorry for show it has to show how different Keanu Reeves version was then it has to fight supernatural it had no chance honestly

I never watched Supernatural but the new Constantine looked interesting to me. I just keep forgetting to record it.

 

[systematic]

Wha? How the hell does analyzing the audio of a stream gonna tell that?

The same way you can use a service like Shazam to identify a song.

In fact it wouldn't be the first time Nielsen and Shazam have teamed up.

 

[Sober]

I actually find The 100 to be pretty silly. I was sort of keeping up with it, but this season already confirmed my suspicion that it's rudderless and without direction, or a direction that makes sense.

It falls into a genre trap of incident for incident's sake and there havent been any underlying character motivations I've found particularly compelling or interesting. And they mythology has a kitchen-sink-maybe-this-will-work feel to it.

But people really like it. So, your mileage may vary.

That's a fair assessment but personally I'll wait until the whole season is out to see if that happens. I do agree the second season's pace slowed down for the past few weeks, hopefully they don't make the same mistake as Orphan Black. I don't know if it feels directionless and more that they clearly got the chance to expand the world and might've gotten lost a bit in the setup.

 

[ivysaur12]

That's a fair assessment but personally I'll wait until the whole season is out to see if that happens. I do agree the second season's pace slowed down for the past few weeks, hopefully they don't make the same mistake as Orphan Black. I don't know if it feels directionless and more that they clearly got the chance to expand the world and might've gotten lost a bit in the setup.

I actually have a lot of the same problems I had with the entire second season of Orphan Black. It feels like this problem that a lot of low-rent genre shows have -- and intriguing premise, but either a scope that becomes too large too fast, or the inability to run with that concept over a long period where the show becomes THINGS that HAPPEN to people that aren't grounded in any emotional truth or real motivation. That can either be due to the fact that the idea wouldn't be a good long running series to begin with, or the talent just isn't there. The latter is definitely true of Orphan Black, and I'm start to think that it's true of The 100.

I think it's 4 episodes in this season, but I feel like I'm starting to see the strains -- and usually, I'm not one for logic bumps, but there's enough that's starting to creep up that's troublesome.

I've also never been a huge fan of the show, and some people really love it, so again, mileage may vary.