TheDarkKnight774
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Another example of why I can't stand this guy. Ugh
this fucking guy.
i hope he gets fined with that shit.
My most hated NBA player going.
Another example of why I can't stand this guy. Ugh
this fucking guy.
i hope he gets fined with that shit.
Lol wade did it against ginobili, a dude known to do that shit more notoriously than everyone else in the league. Its about time he gets a taste of what he has been doing all these years.
this fucking guy.
i hope he gets fined with that shit.
I'm really not a James hater. I don't like the whole decision thing but.... he is fine with me.
What I don't like is what started in the late 90s and festered into what we have now. The allegations, the refs, the money, the drugs, etc. I can enjoy parts of it, but I do find myself sadly leaning away from basketball the more I watch it.
And I guess because I was a good basketball player and played for years. It was my hobby. I just can't identify with it anymore and it hurts.
DemurOnion do you have to shit up every sports thread with barely literate PED FUD?
He must be really fun at parties too.
You have not explained why the game has regressed. You need to explain the cause since it undermines any other point you can try to make. Qualitative analysis is subjective. This is a fundamental flaw in this argument. I don't think you quite get what I'm saying in that regard. Why would any sport be competitively worse 20 years later. It makes no sense, and isn't supported by any realistic metric. There was a brief period in time where I believe zones and hand checking overlapped, but you're talking about a year or two in the late 90s, not an entire era. The 80s was an era of no defense. Pace was high, and DRTG was as well meaning they gave up more points per possession. The 90s was also mostly bad. Hand checking wasn't some major hurdle. How else did Jordan average such gaudy numbers, while being arguably weaker than Wade? Jordan weighed less than Wade, even though he was taller. That often means he was carrying less muscle and was this less strong. Yet he had no problem with the hand checks. Would the bigger, stronger and more talented players of today have more problems somehow?No one here EVER said it isn't evolving. And let's not get ahead of ourselves with the fact that Phil Jackson's teams did a whole bunch of this stuff back in the 90s and other teams did this way before then too. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here? That zone originated in the 21st century lol?
What is being said is that evolution, or whatever you want to call it, cannot just be assigned characteristics that make it out to be better in every respect. That is not an inherent characteristic of evolution. I have put forth a good deal of exposition on why this essentialist viewpoint is garbage. People played zone in the 90s bud.
http://www.people.vcu.edu/~rsleeth/TriangleOffense.html
Give a read to see just how old that triangle offense really is. It will blow your mind. Also notice how the people that are commenting on why the triangle works say it is because of Scottie and Jordan, in other words it works because of individual skill. And there aren't too many people on their level of skill on defense for sure. On offense only Lebron, Wade, and Duncan would even come close.
Junior-on-junior attack. I've seen it all.
Just competent is a long shot. I'm sure of a dynasty, just not sure if we'll stop at the 3 peat. Hopefully Curry's ankles will hold up through so many playoff games.If Kerr turns out to be even remotely competent I'd be more than suprised.
It just ain't the same no more. My brothers killing my brothers out here.
this fucking guy.
i hope he gets fined with that shit.
If Wade isn't fined for that bull crap, then I don't know. Heat fans liked to point out the Stephenson fines (deserved), but there's no way to excuse this typical Wade garbage.
That statement with your avatar is just chilling.
lol watThese were the reasons why I stopped watching basketball after the days of Jordan, Hakeem, Ewing, and company....
I can't compare Lebron, Wade or anyone to Jordan or any of the greats of 90s because of the things that they have done in last night's game.
I really hope the Spurs win for the karma and antics of the Heats.
lol wat
Lol wade did it against ginobili, a dude known to do that shit more notoriously than everyone else in the league. Its about time he gets a taste of what he has been doing all these years.
Lebron is only 2-2 in the finals.I think what he was trying to say was because of the things that Lebron, Wade or anyone did in last night's game that they aren't Jordan or any of the greats of 90s and that he really hopes that the Spurs win for the karma and antics of the heat.
It's pretty clear to me that the problem is that they don't have the right karma and antics of the 90's greats of jordan or anyone of the greats
Lebron is only 2-2 in the finals.
If he would have only raped Greg Oden (an incredibly aged center) in the showers the way Jordan did to Bill Cartwright (he was the Bulls grandfather center) to set an example to the rest of the team he would be 4-0 in the showers.
I was also disgusted by the lack of showboating from Lebron last night in the 3rd quarter when he caught fire. A true gentleman like Jordan would have made sure to show up the other team and make sure it was caught on camera and make at least 10 commercials about it.
Why can't Lebron be a true gentleman like Jordan?
Jordan's Bulls, Ewing-era Knicks, Miller Pacers and the 90s Pistons truly were basketball integrity personified.I think what he was trying to say was because of the things that Lebron, Wade or anyone did in last night's game that they aren't Jordan or any of the greats of 90s and that he really hopes that the Spurs win for the karma and antics of the heat.
It's pretty clear to me that the problem is that they don't have the right karma and antics of the 90's greats of jordan or anyone of the greats
Why can't Lebron be a true gentleman like Jordan?
I can understand Parker missing his, he looked like he was still in pain from the elbow, but not Duncan.Spurs choked away last years finals because of FTs
And last night they missed 4 in a row.
How can a team as fundamentally sound as the Spurs suck so much at the line? They only shot 60% last night. Even the Lakers with Shaq would usually do better than that.
You only miss FTs because of 3 things. Lack of skill, nerves or exhaustion. It ain't the first one so I would guess they are tired or are choking. I am leaning towards the choke.
Fucking bum ass Lebron can't keep his mouth shut.Don't forget that Jordan wouldn't have spoken out against Donald Sterling because racists and bigots buy sneakers too.
Not excusing it at all. Bring on the fine. $5k well spent.
Which would make no difference at all.should be 50 instead of 5.
I wonder if Spo will stick with the switching strategy on defense. It worked to great effect with Dallas until the Spurs figured it out and crushed them, but it seemed to bother them again here.
I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps using it sparingly as an end of game change up (much like LeBron on Parker).
Leonard looks like he needs to get his shit together but at the same time, LeBron just seems much more comfortable attacking him. Not sure how much his defense has slipped and how much is just LeBron showing no mercy.
Can't ask for a better basketball series than this. The Lakers and Spurs of the early 2000s were great, but there's no denying that whoever got out of the west was the defacto champion and the Finals were a formality. Nice to have an actual series.
Spurs choked away last years finals because of FTs
And last night they missed 4 in a row.
How can a team as fundamentally sound as the Spurs suck so much at the line? They only shot 60% last night. Even the Lakers with Shaq would usually do better than that.
You only miss FTs because of 3 things. Lack of skill, nerves or exhaustion. It ain't the first one so I would guess they are tired or are choking. I am leaning towards the choke.
If your defense is that harden and the clippers may be worse at flopping and get more BS calls their way then you have already lost.
On the one hand you admit they flop and then on the other you want us to shut up about something they clearly do that you even admit.
It's like you heat fans are channeling Lebron, you benefit more then almost anyone in the league from star calls and ref fuckery but you whine about being the victim of unfair treatment more then anyone else. Then try and play the excuse game when your team clearly gets away with flops and bullshit, which in turn just gets everyone to hate your team and fanbase more.
Leonard getting in foul trouble is simple. They called two non-fouls as fouls on him which took him out at critical points. One of which was when Lebron went on a tear. Then he has to play timid the rest of the way because he risks fouling out. Pretty simple.
As for Manu I already said that the end of the game was on them. Who are you arguing with that? The spurs, despite the fuckery, still had a chance at the end and blew it. They couldn't adjust to Lebron on Parker and couldn't hit critical shots. But your silly if you don't think the two and then three fouls had a negative effect that half. The third being a complete bs call.
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These were the reasons why I stopped watching basketball after the days of Jordan, Hakeem, Ewing, and company....
I can't compare Lebron, Wade or anyone to Jordan or any of the greats of 90s because of the things that they have done in last night's game.
I really hope the Spurs win for the karma and antics of the Heats.
Yes the Spurs the model example of a team that doesn't flop.
Spurs never do this kind of stuff.
One of the best articles I've read about MJ. I have that on my bookmarks still.I think he meant because Lebron didn't spit on his food to make sure no one took his delicious cinnamon rolls. He loved those cinnamon rolls. Does Lebron love them enough?
Don't forget that Jordan wouldn't have spoken out against Donald Sterling because racists and bigots buy sneakers too.
Fucking bum ass Lebron can't keep his mouth shut.
Always seeking attention and calling out racists and murders like Sterling and Zimmerman. He needs to shut up and let the experts and Fox News and First Take tell us how to think.
A TRUE gentleman and scholar like Jordan would have never done something so crass. Remember how well he handled all those school kids getting murdered over his shoes in the 80s? Instead of going to the media and telling everyone how wrong it was or doing something even more unsavory like reducing their price he heroically stayed silent and filmed a commercial for McDonalds. He is always a gentleman. I remember he handled the Nike slave camps in Malaysia with similar class.
Stop trying to make Jordan out to be a flopper. He may have flopped once or twice. Dude did not flop every game nor even close to a majority of them. They took charges back then and played man when they needed to and whatever else when they needed to.
As anyone can tell you, those that watched a lot of bulls, Jordan could whine to refs now and then and he trashed talk but he still had integrity. Dwayne Wade does this for a living. IN EVERY GAME.
Comparison dead. Sorry Heat fans.
Jordan? Integrity? Even Jordan would laugh at that.
When Jerry Colangelo asked Krzyzewski to coach the U.S. national team he got the coach's staff, too, including the billionaire's kid who never complained about performing the most menial tasks.
"I was blown away by how humble he was," said Colangelo, the chairman of USA Basketball. "You wouldn't have picked him out on a bet as someone who may have been privileged growing up. He was a doer, a giver."
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who has known Nick Arison since he was a kid, recalled his 2 a.m. arrival at the U.S. team's hotel during the 2006 World Championship in Japan. He encountered Arison folding the team's laundry.