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2014 NBA Off-season |OT| Our cap is tellin me NO! But my fandom is tellin me YEAH!
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MetalFearSolid
Banned
If that is true, no way this is a win for Deng. His market value must have dropped so significantly.
I'm assuming he thought he'd get a better deal on the open market. He's essentially back on a one year "prove it" deal after the disaster in Cleveland. If he helps the Heat tremendously as the 3rd banana (potentially 2nd pending how they deal with Wade's situation), he can opt out after the season and try to get a better deal elsewhere.
Why not? As I said above, if he plays well for Miami, he can opt out and try to get paid again next offseason as one of the marquee FAs on the market (I'm assuming Love will be traded by the deadline to a team he'll re-sign to and that Aldridge has already decided to re-up with Portland). If he doesn't, welp, he'll opt in and make his $10m.
Xplatformer
Member
Granger + Deng
If Wade can play at least 55 games this season the Heat should still be in the eastern conference finals.
If Wade can play at least 55 games this season the Heat should still be in the eastern conference finals.
Ninja Scooter
Member
lol Granger is worthless
Only game I'd trust wade to play is connect 4
Haha. Heat didn't sign 2009-2010 Danny Granger. Heat signed 2014 Danny Granger. The guy who has missed almost 120 games in two seasons and has knees worse then Wades.
Danny Granger has inherited the Greg Oden "unrealistic expectations" award for the Miami Heat for this season.
ITT: Casual basketball fans don't understand contracts in the context of the CBA.
So Riles found a time machine, huh?
Ninja Scooter
Member
If he did he'd go back to 1980s when he had Magic Johnson locked into a 20 year contract with none of this opting out shit!
I do think that Chalmers/Wade/Deng/McBob/Bosh is #2 in the East. Here's how I think the East plays out (two scenarios because I'm a Hornets whore):
Hornets sign Lance
1. CLE
2. MIA
3. TOR
4. CHI
5. CHA
6. ATL
7. WASH
8. IND
Lance stays in Indy
1. CLE
2. MIA
3. TOR
4. IND
5. CHI
6. ATL
7. WASH
8. CHA
Bottom line: Southeast and Central divisions are bears, the Atlantic is a dumpster fire that Toronto will cruise through.
FA has barely gotten started, dawg. The East changes so much based on what happens to Monroe, Indy's PG situation, the Booz Cruise, inevitable PJ Hairston legal situation, etc.
Let's wait a month til we talk about the conference line up.
Dat Jab
Byakuya769
Member
Including LeBron, Cavs only have 6 players with a better PER than broken down 2013-14 Granger, returning from injury that takes up to 18 months to recuperate from? You think Granger is a lock for the 6th man? And do you know how much Oden was paid? Cheap gambles equal unrealistic expectations?
Half of me wants Bron to get a title for that city, but clown shit like this makes me want to see the organization's incompetence rear its head again. Three #1 picks in 4 years and the geographic lottery has you all feeling a bit too high off your own supply.
Thinking about it more, I guess it shows how easily influenced most people are by the media.
The criticism for leaving in 2010 was over the top and that made even casual fans see him as a villain. Now the media is going overboard praising him for a blatantly self-serving decision and the public follows suit.
The criticism for leaving in 2010 was over the top and that made even casual fans see him as a villain. Now the media is going overboard praising him for a blatantly self-serving decision and the public follows suit.
Byakuya769
Member
The exact same people. It is pretty incredible. "I thought that guy was a piece of shit, but now.. He's not so bad. Fuck the Heat!"
I disagree that it is blatantly self-serving. He could have signed for two years with better teams and then returned. I still think his short-term chances were better in Miami.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Please. The public does not need the media's help. LeBron going home is a story everyone can relate to. Only the irrational, sans Miami fans, are struggling to understand it.
Again, there is NO WAY he could have gone to another team besides Cleveland. He would have been DESTROYED in the media and he knew it.
As for short-term chances, I think they are at worst the same in Cleveland (NBA futures have Cavs favored to win it all). Long-term, it's Cavs with no contest. What made the Heat special was the Bron+Wade combo and deadly 3pt shooters. Wade is a shell and they have no reliable shooters anymore.
Bron realized he wasn't winning any more rings there and decided to return to the Cavs earlier than he'd planned. This way he avoids the stench of "title or bust" failure and plays pressure-free ball at home.
Heat fans should be really worried about Wade cos Bron clearly thinks he's not good enough to win titles anymore...even with a Big 3.
Byakuya769
Member
Are you predicting that the Heat will have a worst record than the 2012-2013 Cavaliers? Or you think LeBron was 100% certain that they could get Love?
Even without Love, Cavs with Bron is better than Heat without him. I will bet you anything Cleveland has a better record than Miami this year
sooperkool
Member
Yeah Lebron couldn't go anywhere other than CLE, however the flipside is this:
People are praising him for saying that he's in CLE for the long term but the truth is really the fact that he CAN'T leave CLE. He would be destroyed for leaving there twice so he's stuck there.
People are praising him for saying that he's in CLE for the long term but the truth is really the fact that he CAN'T leave CLE. He would be destroyed for leaving there twice so he's stuck there.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Lol @ Chicago in 4th or 5th in the East. Will be top 3 easily.
Byakuya769
Member
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
I misread your post thinking you were talking about the Cavs next year. Cavs records the last few years mean nothing cos they've had many injuries
Ah, I had that outdated thinking that division winners are guaranteed 1-3. Yeah, then I'd put Bulls 2 or 3 for sure.
What reason does anyone have to believe that DRose will play a full season?
CreepingFear
Member
Chicago offered at least one more year.
CreepingFear
Member
I don't give a fuck if the Bulls win 60 games again and finish 1st in the East. They aren't winning a championship. Same fucking holes as usual. No three point shooters. I can't count any of the rookies since they haven't proven shit in the real NBA yet. No 2nd guy to handle the ball to create other then Rose.
3/$30m was their offer. Deng wanted $12m+, gonna try to prove it this season and see if he can get it next offseason
CreepingFear
Member
Another year of Mr. Glass, it looks like.
Dat analysis
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Would you keep Augustine instead???
There are arguments for both sides but despite his poor playoff performance, DJ did just about everything right and I'd keep the firepower.
Hinrich can still play but he's inconsistent offensively and obviously old and worn out to an extent.
His size and defense just resonate so much with Thibodeau.
CreepingFear
Member
Hinrich, when healthy, is one of the better guard defenders. He's had such a bad history with health though his whole career with the Bulls and the Wiz and Hawks as well. I'd prefer Augustin because the Bulls need offense more than anything, but Augustin is going to get paid somewhere.
Thats the MLE isn't it?
CreepingFear
Member
I wonder who is picking up Boozer when he's amnestied. Need to know so I can have a laugh.
Dumping Lin
Dumping Gortat (I mean Asik)
Exchanging Chandler Parsons for Trevor Ariza
Maybe they will come out of nowhere with a deal for Kevin Love. There had to be a Plan C right?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
What a disaster of an offseason for the Rockets. Honestly couldn't have done worse.
Do you mean Asik?
EDIT: Anyways, why didn't Houston just pick up Parsons' option in the first place (I mean, it was only like $900,000)?
Rockets Manager - "Hey, why don't we just match someone's offer for Parsons rather than just get him for cheap this year?
Rockets Owner - "This is a great idea! We might as well just save that $900,000 for Carmelo!"
Rockets Manager - "Yeah and with this option, we can hopefully keep Lin as well!"
Ninja Scooter
Member
and McHale is still coach. That's a team destined for a regression next season.
friskykillface
Banned
CreepingFear
Member
I'd argue the Bulls had a worse off-season if you include losing Deng for a minor upgrade in 34 year old Gasol over Boozer. Trading two picks for McBuckets. Can't find some dumb ass team to take Boozer. There's too many dumb GM's not to be able to find a place for Boozer.
CreepingFear
Member
Cavs, Boozer returns home too..........first team
You must really hate Cleveland, don't you? Cleveland just got The King back and you wish the disaster Boozer on them now? Shame on you!
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