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2014 NBA |OT| Let's just wait it out. Be NKY/LAL fans and lose our games together.
- Thread starter UnObtainium17
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Something going on in Dallas apparently.
Too Much Monta? Mavs Might Have to Move On
Jeez. And this is a Dallas writer.
Too Much Monta? Mavs Might Have to Move On
Jeez. And this is a Dallas writer.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
Well Monta is probably going to get paid, and he apparently felt that he got underpaid when signing with Dallas. Now there are some teams that are willing to give him long term contracts for big money. Besides Parsons, Dirk and maybe Chandler we know that the backcourt will not be the same.
Monta has a player option for next year, but he's very much underpaid even though he's been struggling really badly since February. The feeling is that he will probably opt out to get his last big deal, although he has always said he loves Dallas. The conundrum for the Mavs is do you pay an undersized 2 guard big money when he's turning 30 and is a liability on D, even though he is your go-to guy? Parsons has also emerged as a guy to run offense through this season; at times him running the PnR with Tyson/Dirk/Amare carries the team.
Honestly I feel that Monta's best role is as 6th man but that he has too much pride to do it - he's an attacking guard that will slow down and isn't a good shooter. And I don't think he'll get better like Devin Harris did last off-season. But I still want him on my squad
TheSadRanger
Banned
The big problem is if that Monta leaves next season there's not gonna be much out there in the market to replace him with during the offseason. FA is going to be extremely shallow with SG's next year, Green will be probably get an extension by SA. Other than that who else is there other than backup SG's?
Lee Chaolan
Member
They have the Haywood exception which is good for 12 million I believe. Not sure what that gets them, but I still doubt Love leaves. It's in his best interest money wise for that big 2016 season to come back for a year when his bird rights are available for that extra money, and then we could still trade him if need be.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Love was on various shows this morning (I heard him on Dan Patrick, but he was also on Mike & Mike) and he still says he plans to be in Cleveland next year, win or lose. Dan brought up the Bosh comparison, and Love said (to paraphrase) "the first year would be the hardest," which would suggest his mind is similarly on this being a multiple year pairing. I mean, who knows, athletes can and do say one thing and end up doing another, but Love could at the very least opt in to his last year, or sign a new one year deal, before making any long-term decision about whether he wants to be in Cleveland. On Cleveland's side, they still have the Bird Rights advantage, too.
Dreams-Visions
Member
The question will be how much the Cavs will be willing to offer him more than anything else. Solid impact guy, but not max money guy. He's proven he's simply not worthy of max money yet. Undersized player with questionable defense and a back that has proven to not be very durable. If he busts some heads and balls out in the playoffs, then sure. Whatever he wants. Otherwise, I think he's going to have to take less than max or be replaced. Gotta prove you're worthy of max money. As a17/10 guy, he's definitely in rare company...but him disappearing in Q4 has to stop and I need to see him demand the ball like a fucking Alpha more than in just Q1 and Q2.
If they decide to keep him, I do hope he spends as much time as he needs to spend relaxing in the offseason and getting that back in shape. The inevitable Cavs playoff exit could spark some true killer instinct in him and thirst for the first time.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Would be great if Dwight comes back tonight
Lee Chaolan
Member
ESPN trying to jinx the Warriors confirmed
Dreams-Visions
Member
If Love go apeshit, there is no scenario in which the Cavs lose 4 games in a series. You'd have to bet that he no-shows, which is possible.
ESPN...stahp.
Love my Dubs, but we don't have the GOAT.
Damn sure don't.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Maxing Love this summer will be far cheaper than doing it next summer, and if that's what the market dictates, it's what the Cavs should try to do.
Of course, that also incentivizes Love to stick around either on a 1-year deal, either with his current deal or a new contract with a new opt-out.
Of course, that also incentivizes Love to stick around either on a 1-year deal, either with his current deal or a new contract with a new opt-out.
Uno Venova
Banned
perfectchaos007
Member
Harden dropped 44 tonight. Nbd
Randolph Freelander
Member
Did he get his requisite 28 free throws?
We are getting more room in that 3rd playoff spot. Need to win a couple of the games on the Road and my Rockets can lock down the 3rd spot.
How awful will basketball get if this guy wins MVP jumping into defenders for FTs?
Stabby McSter
Member
Confrontation
Member
Ugh 22 FTA.
Uno Venova
Banned
I think they call you salty now when you point that out.
perfectchaos007
Member
I always say it's not Hardens fault defenders keep fouling him. You guys are salty
Lee Chaolan
Member
Looks like he's been a nice find for a "rookie" That team would be damn fierce if they were all ever healthy at the same time.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Well, if you don't want Harden to go to the line, then don't slap at his wrists. Just let him make the layup.
I always wondered if this would actually work for an entire game, then I realized we can just wait 'til the playoffs and those calls will be cut in half.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Was hoping no one would bring that up ;-;
Those games are where Houston is fucked.
GhostWriter24
Member
Thanks TWolves!
-Knicks fan
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Syphon Filter
Member
my man
Stabby McSter
Member
The Wizards made one field goal that whole quarter.
wot
wot
WesternHeretic
Member
ESPN...stahp.
Love my Dubs, but we don't have the GOAT.
But you both have Steve Kerr.
He has to be ROTY he's been the best scorer in the 4th quarter besides Harden for half the season.
UnObtainium17
Member
Wiz got blown the hell out but Curry please drop 50....
But why? 24 points in 28 minutes on 14 shots blows any stat line from westbrook this entire year out of the water. Rest the 4th quarter and stay focused on the playoffs.
Haha, that's pretty cool.
Curry was doing well with 24 through 3 quarters, but he's done for the night now that we're up 30.
UnObtainium17
Member
But why? I wanted a $10 2k
Him scoring 24 makes the tomorrows sale only $2 less than what it currently sells for at amazon.. Aint gonna spend that much dough for a game where I will pretty much be getting L's left and right vs anybody online.
I'm getting Bloodborne tomorrow though so its all good
Chezzymann
Member
Yeah, that's the problem. People keep complaining about him 'flopping', and while its true he occasionally flops and tilts his head back to exaggerate contact (like pretty much most players in the league do), the majority of the time people foul him because they can't guard him. That's the disparity in free throws. I can see people getting frustrated looking at the stats, seeing all the free throws he makes, and then getting upset and chalking it up to him just flopping; but if you actually watch all the games he's been playing this season you'll see how easily he just weaves through defenders and gets to the rim. Its amazing.
TheSadRanger
Banned
I didn't see anyone else talking about it so I made a thread of the new grantland feature about Serge Ibaka and his visits to his hometown in the Congo during the summer http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1016440
edit: I hope you guys check it out, it's a well put together documentary.
edit: I hope you guys check it out, it's a well put together documentary.
Speights had 16 points on 9 shots in 14 minutes. He's also better than Westbrook!
Randolph Freelander
Member
I was just making a joke after catching some of the first quarter and he already had 8 or 10 FTAs, meanwhile my dude Kyrie gets knocked to the floor repeatedly and often doesn't get a call. I just want to know what Harden has on the head of league officials to get his 10.1 FTA/PG and Kyrie can only get 4.9.
I'm bitter.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/avgFreeThrowsAttempted
Mo' Buckets is great if he is making his shots. If he isn't he contributes nothing as he is never double teamed (because it would be dumb to leave curry or thompson open). The point though, in case you missed it, is that Curry is efficient and doesn't hog the ball to put up a bunch of faux stats. 25 point leads in the 3rd quarter are normal and Curry usually sit or just controls tempo and gets others involved. But you know all that. What is crazy are he double and triple teams he gets before even crossing midcourt...teams have just decided he is far too dangerous to have the ball.
Crashing the defensive boards as a point guard leads to a lot of rebounds, out of control drives to the bucket lead to a lot of trips to the foul line (especially when you look to jump into defenders because you can't shoot), and you get lots of assists if your entire game plan is to drive and kick the ball for an immediate shot (if you don't take it yourself). Volume shooter, unimaginative game-plan with no ball movement leads to a lot of hollow stats.
Confrontation
Member
I just don't like seeing a statline whenever a guy get 40 or 50+ points it's due to almost half of it being because of FTs or when someone had an insane amount of FGA and only hit like 40%.
Not a knock on Harden, in this case. Dude attacks the rim and gets fouled, it's simple. Lebron's been doing it for years and years.
I just love seeing those huge point outbursts because a guy gets hot and hits shots from everywhere like Klay, Kyrie or Curry had earlier this season. Just personal preference.
Not a knock on Harden, in this case. Dude attacks the rim and gets fouled, it's simple. Lebron's been doing it for years and years.
I just love seeing those huge point outbursts because a guy gets hot and hits shots from everywhere like Klay, Kyrie or Curry had earlier this season. Just personal preference.