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2014 NBA Playoffs |OT| Men lie, Women lie, Bagels don't.
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Tragicomedy
Member
I don't recall Durant flopping on that play, which was a clear foul.
He definitely flopped like crazy coming around that pick last game. Clearly deserved a fine there.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Yep! I can't stand them, but they are that good. And as a Blazer fan if we continue to get Rolled, I am pulling so hard for the Spurs!
Syphon Filter
Member
okc is worse than 2012 with no harden.
Tragicomedy
Member
Not a chance. Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka have all elevated their games to a different level. I love the Beard, but this current team would beat that team.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
If they had somehow kept Harden that would have been some team with guys like Reggie Jackson and Ibaka stepping up their games.
Bitching about calls and working the refs is one thing. Diving, flopping and otherwise trying to deceive the officials is another
Is stuff like this really acceptable to you from a superstar?
This is one of the most bitch-made things I've ever seen and it's not his worst flop in these playoffs lol
Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely want him on my team (FU, Stern) but I would call out his flopping
Avon Barksdale
Member
They still have the same coach, which is why they still won't beat the Heat.
Tragicomedy
Member
YNB's stats over the past 6 games:
27.5 points per game, 49.1% FG, 88.6% FT, 8.5 rebounds, 10.1 assists, 1.5 steals. And lots of turnovers.
Dude is straight beasting.
27.5 points per game, 49.1% FG, 88.6% FT, 8.5 rebounds, 10.1 assists, 1.5 steals. And lots of turnovers.
Dude is straight beasting.
Tragicomedy
Member
CP3 is a saint compared to LeBron James.
Paint
your
face
clown.
Paint
your
face!
Paint
your
face
clown.
Paint
your
face!
Glad you've seen the light.
The Clippers are fucking insufferable. Even Doc Rivers is the goddamn bitchmaster ringleader. I get that's he respected and whatever, but the guy is always moaning about something. The one guy I don't mind on LA is Deandre Jordan, but he's such a broken and one dimensional player so meh. And Hedo for being part of the early 2000's Sacramento teams, but he's ancient now.
It's also interesting how Chris Paul is seen as like this great and fearless leader and the toughest point guard ever, yet he's never done shit in the postseason. Guys like Melo who have actually been deeper into the playoffs than CP 3 get way more grief. Dude's a very good player, but he ain't Jesus like some media dudes make him out to be.
Hahaha, I've never seen this one. I'm dyin'. I like how it's sort of delayed, but once he sees that the ball is going out of bounds it's like "fuck it, time to bail".clown.
That he is. That he is.
Syphon Filter
Member
CP3 is a saint compared to LeBron James.
Paint
your
face
clown.
Paint
your
face!
lmao lebron is crazy. so far he has not flopped this playoffs. Maybe when ish gets real vs pacers or spurs.
Tragicomedy
Member
LeBron never makes a mistake. Manti Teo's girlfriend is always fouling him.
It doesn't fit the narrative, though, so we'll keep hearing how bad YNB is. Meanwhile, he's outplaying every other PG in the postseason.
One does not flop against the Bobcats. When they finally face a real time, he'll be like a fish out of water.
friskykillface
Banned
Pacers on a 2 game winning streak ever since Bynum left the team
Pacers vs Spurs finals
Pacers vs Spurs finals
Yeah I'm sorry but you guys are crazy for putting the blame on players for flopping. This is what our league has created through their inconsistent calls and removing emotion/spirit from our game. Think about it.
Let's look at the Toronto/Nets series. Toronto lost a 7 game series by 1 point, their season was determined by one single point. If Lowry or Derozen had decided to flop on ONE SINGLE play and made their free throws they would be playing Miami right now. That's just the way our game is played now, its all about working the refs and playing mind games. Do I agree with it? Fuck no. It aggravates me to no end. But there is no way you guys can realistically blame these guys for doing it when their potential careers, legacy and cheques are at stake. Like any sport, basketball is about winning, and if you can win a game for your team by acting then so be it.
The league needs to get their shit together, not the players. The league is what makes it ok to do it.
Let's look at the Toronto/Nets series. Toronto lost a 7 game series by 1 point, their season was determined by one single point. If Lowry or Derozen had decided to flop on ONE SINGLE play and made their free throws they would be playing Miami right now. That's just the way our game is played now, its all about working the refs and playing mind games. Do I agree with it? Fuck no. It aggravates me to no end. But there is no way you guys can realistically blame these guys for doing it when their potential careers, legacy and cheques are at stake. Like any sport, basketball is about winning, and if you can win a game for your team by acting then so be it.
The league needs to get their shit together, not the players. The league is what makes it ok to do it.
It's true that it's the leagues fault for inconsistently calling touch fouls, which is why there's more selling contact. However that doesn't excuse guys flying around the court over zero contact at all.
That's the difference here.
JVG had a nice rant recently about not giving calls to shooters for jumping diagonally or sideways into people to draw a foul on a shot. I like that idea quite a bit, though it will cause more ambiguity as to what a "natural shooting motion" is.
That's the difference here.
JVG had a nice rant recently about not giving calls to shooters for jumping diagonally or sideways into people to draw a foul on a shot. I like that idea quite a bit, though it will cause more ambiguity as to what a "natural shooting motion" is.
Tragicomedy
Member
If a player out and out flops like the LeBron examples above, they need to paint their faces and don their big red shoes. Zero excuse. The league needs to implement more harsh fines, suspensions for multiple offenses, the whole nine yards.
If a player legitimately takes a hard hit and then exaggerates their response somewhat to draw the refs attention, they deserve mockery from the fans but that's their prerogative. Their fine is knowing they are considered giant whiny babies by everyone and we can be done with it.
I don't blame the league for it at all. I blame players like LeBron who publicly states he thinks it's a good strategy to win. His exact words: "Guys have been accustomed to doing it for years, and it's not even a bad thing. You're just trying to get the advantage. Any way you can get the advantage over an opponent to help your team win, then so be it."
No, LeBron. Not "so be it." Paint your face, clown.
If a player legitimately takes a hard hit and then exaggerates their response somewhat to draw the refs attention, they deserve mockery from the fans but that's their prerogative. Their fine is knowing they are considered giant whiny babies by everyone and we can be done with it.
I don't blame the league for it at all. I blame players like LeBron who publicly states he thinks it's a good strategy to win. His exact words: "Guys have been accustomed to doing it for years, and it's not even a bad thing. You're just trying to get the advantage. Any way you can get the advantage over an opponent to help your team win, then so be it."
No, LeBron. Not "so be it." Paint your face, clown.
But that's where you have it twisted Tragic, we are almost arguing for the same thing here. I think that quote from Lebron is stupid and even embarrassing, but that's the league he plays in, that's what his sport calls for in some games to come out on top by 2 or 3 points. There is no stretch at all in his "so be it" comment, using every advantage you can to win is really what its all about. Same reason why boxers do the staredowns to crack an opponent, same reason why Arnold would anger and offend opponents before a bodybuilding show, same reason hockey players will poke at another player with their stick without the refs seeing to aggravate an opponent. At the end of the day, all that matters is a win, by any means necessary. Lebron is using the tools given to him just as every player does/should. Whether there was a legitimate foul or not is entirely irrelevant because the intention is the exact same amongst either player in each situation. Its about getting the call and putting your team up two for either player.
And no, you're absolutely spot on, that doesn't make it right and you should "paint your face, clown." But if Lebron is going to paint his face, every player/ref/coach should follow suite. Its the environment they play in, an environment created by the commissioner and referees. Until they decide to change, the players have every right to flop, no matter how disgraceful it is. Its why I don't watch regular season games and only check box scores. But it is what it is.
Let them. Its the reason why I keep rooting for the Heat in the playoffs whenever the Sixers aren't in it or knocked out.
The reason and lists people come up with about Lebron is ridiculous. No one else flops or ever flopped. No one else ever won a championship in a lock out season. No one else ever teamed up or was part of a team full of all stars or 2 HOF players.
Nothing he does counts. Only he gets superstar calls. Blah blah blah
TheKaeptain
Banned
CP3 is a saint compared to LeBron James.
clown.
I hate to take up for Lebron but I don't think he flopped here. His foot was stepped on and he was trying to get the ball. Look at his head follow the ball but he couldn't move because his foot was trapped.
There is no way his foot was stuck! You see how big Lebron is??!?!??! He is so big and strong there is no way puny little David West could hold his foot down for sure Lebron saw it as an opportunity to flop because he is classless clown who flops!
Lebron is like tank and if he wanted to he could have kicked off West and thrown him to the other side of the court. Just like when he pretended to fall when Nazr Mohammed barely touched him or when Roberts aka Jesus from the Bobcats barely grazed his neck.
Jag
Member
Not only that but Lebron put his foot there intentionally so West would step on it. He's that good...
TheKaeptain
Banned
I'm really impressed how he never took his eyes off the ball.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Okay man any thoughts on the 90 other gifs?
Tragicomedy
Member
I recognize you're correct here. LeBron still needs to apply his clown make up.
I'm not discounting anything LeBron does. In this very thread (or the previous one), I've stated he's the best player in the league.
He's also a flopping bitch. Deal with it.
Syphon Filter
Member
bam bam loves cp3 and leBron.
I like you, (because you have been honest and not blamed BS) but I know everyone probably hates me.
But this is IT.
Either the Nets can do this or they can't. Until they prove they cannot, I will be here. I promise i will leave you guys when their chance is over .
I was reacting more to anytime he does get hit hard or gets hurt people act like he is faking.
Everyone flops. OKC, Clippers, GS, Miami, Ginobili, Harden, players kicking their legs out on jump shots to get the slightest contact for fouls, or whatever other team/player. All superstars do it.
And guess what? They been doing it. Its not something new. AI used to exaggerate contact all the time and beg for calls. Guys posted videos of MJ flopping. MJ also used to get away with a tremendous amount of contact when he played D. Traveling. So does Kobe.
All superstars get that. I think by now people need to get over it or stop watching the sport if it bothers them so much. Its nothing new. Maybe more now but then again the spotlight is bigger and microscope is always on. We didn't have instant commentary, twitter, and 24/7 sports TV with talk shows dissecting players every move, gesture, psyche, and discussing who has a killer instinct and who doesn't.
I hate flopping too but it doesn't bother me to the point I see some people here get upset. And worse yet its selective rage based on who you like or don't like.
Oh You PEACE shit, just let it get to the 4th quarter before that shit, some courtesy.
We have dealt with your peace shit for decades give us a FEW MINUTES.
You will only suffer it for 14 more wins, dear friend. Pray they come swiftly. PEACE.
I hate and love you.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
That peace thing is hilarious. People make fun of it all the time and he still does it. It's like the equivalent of those guys who wear fedoras despite all the internet backlash.
Bitching about calls and working the refs is one thing. Diving, flopping and otherwise trying to deceive the officials is another
Is stuff like this really acceptable to you from a superstar?
This is one of the most bitch-made things I've ever seen and it's not his worst flop in these playoffs lol
Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely want him on my team (FU, Stern) but I would call out his flopping
Is that Kevin Hart?
sf2fanatic
Member
Beyonce looking fine courtside!!!
MetalFearSolid
Banned
It just gets to a point when DWill's performance are just to be expected to be this bad.
Gillian Seed
Banned
90% of the NBA flops! The euros have actually Improved this year. Lol
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It is so interesting right? By now you would think this would get into his head. The entire season I have seen nothing that tells me he give a shit.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
But I thought KG and Pierce were suppose to bring the winning culture, and DWill was suppose to soak in knowledge from having these two around. Or whatever garbage the media keeps saying when they brought these two dinosaurs to the Nets.
Right?? SO ridiculous. I knew this dude was bad if he thought these dinos alone would get a ring the first time. And now these fossils, what a joke. Again what kinda resume do u need for this job again??
He HAD to think he would get this in year ONE.