FrenchMovieTheme
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rigged in what way? the FT differential? they intentionally fouled Jordan because he is a horrible FT shooter. he shot 34 FT's and most were on intentional fouls
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2015 NBA PLAYOFFS |OT| One man's Smith.. Is another man's treasure.
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rigged in what way? the FT differential? they intentionally fouled Jordan because he is a horrible FT shooter. he shot 34 FT's and most were on intentional fouls
UnObtainium17
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Technical Foul plus change of possession.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
And you get the time-out in question anyways. Not that it matters since you lose possession...
Dreams-Visions
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Yes. If the refs see you, of course.
Lee Chaolan
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CassidyIzABeast
Member
He's gesturing a swirl of toilet bowl water flushing the Rocket's season.
Uno Venova
Banned
Homers.
It is pretty pathetic though that in the last ~8 seconds you had the following three ref botches in a tie game:
1. A missed technical/change of possession call on an attempted timeout by the cavs when they had none
2. A missed foul call on Joakim Noah... or Lebron for lowering his shoulder, but in this NBA environment, that's a foul on noah.
3. A phantom time out + time being put back on the clock, allowing the cavs to compose themselves for a final shot instead of doing a mad scramble down the court like they had been doing prior to the ball being knocked out of bounds.
That's just poor officiating, and while LeBron had to make a tough shot from the corner to win the game, there should never be that much blown officiating in the final 10 seconds of a tied playoff game.
1. A missed technical/change of possession call on an attempted timeout by the cavs when they had none
2. A missed foul call on Joakim Noah... or Lebron for lowering his shoulder, but in this NBA environment, that's a foul on noah.
3. A phantom time out + time being put back on the clock, allowing the cavs to compose themselves for a final shot instead of doing a mad scramble down the court like they had been doing prior to the ball being knocked out of bounds.
That's just poor officiating, and while LeBron had to make a tough shot from the corner to win the game, there should never be that much blown officiating in the final 10 seconds of a tied playoff game.
Banana Aeon
Member
Refs been shit the entire series. NBA needs to critically look at the piss poor job they're doing and clean them up.
NBA needs to damn well solve this free timeout at the end of games for reviews shit.
My solution is put all 10 players on the court into a hyperbolic time chamber.
Vanillalite
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So let's be real.
Is there any fucking way Blat is back next season?
Is there any fucking way Blat is back next season?
CD'S BAR
Member
If Mchale can come back so can Blatt ( I don't think Mchale will come back). But really Cleveland over-achieved in the regular season and if they take this series against the Bulls then even if they lose in the ECF I think the season for them could be considered a success. Obviously that success is more because of Lebron than Blatt but I don't think Blatt has been terrible enough to not give him another year (they should hire scott brooks instead).
Van Gundy had a funny comment that the players should have to go in the "Cone of Silence".
Would people really have been happier if they didn't fix the time? That would have been a more fair result? Because the way the rules are now, that's the option. Don't fix the time and play on, or fix it and both teams get a quasi-TO. Key words: BOTH TEAMS. The Bulls got time to set up their defense too. It's not like there was some crazy trick play or anything; just a great player took advantage of a millisecond of delayed reaction and drilled a fantastic shot.
As for Blatt calling the TO, the responsibility is on the players/coaches to make it crystal clear to the ref that they want a TO. That's why often you see them dribbling towards the ref when they are calling on. In this case, that onus actually benefitted Blatt and the Cavs.
An extreme time chamber?
greatestjediever
Member
Only way to go to infinity is to go back to 0
silver.tongue
Member
Yep. I agree with this. The rule is fine the way it is now.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Don't fucking care. Gonna go down with the ship. Houston has come back from at 1-3 series before.
FUCK ITTTTTTT
FUCK ITTTTTTT
LyleLanley
Banned
I would have loved to see what would've happened if Blatt cost the Cavs a playoff game because he tried calling a timeout that he didn't have. Would LeBron have fired him on the spot?
Absolutely. Not to mention ESPN's full week coverage of the timeout, and a 30 for 30 one year from yesterday
The last few minutes of that game were just painful to watch. One of the most frustrating things the entire game was how the refs were letting LBJ constantly push off with his left arm when driving. He was definitely fouled on that next to last shot, but they'd never end it on free throws like that in the playoffs.
It would be fun to see those front courts battle
sf2fanatic
Member
Just wondering if Craig Ehlo was smiling at that jumpshot yesterday. Seeing a Cav do it against a Bull
Let's be fair. Bulls are shooting 45% in the two games Gasol played a full game. He's a pretty big part of their offense. Their other bigs can't space the floor like Pau does.
Gasol helps but they took terrible shots against the Bucks too. That what they do. Settle for bad shots and have horrible stretches of inept offense.
Rabbi_Vole
Banned
Do or die for the Hawks tonight.
Banana Aeon
Member
Nah, Ehlo can't watch basketball anymore. It's his Vietnam flashback.
Bucks were top 5 this season in opponent FG%. But overall I agree with you - there's no excuse for the level of ineptitude we saw yesterday. When the Cavs when this series - and they will - Bulls fans will be lamenting game 4 for years to come. Bulls would be favored against both the Hawks and Wiz, and would have a good chance against any of the remaining West teams.
Seriously. I can already see myself ten years from now randomly thinking about this game and getting mad.
The reffing mistakes and free review timeout at the end of the game were ridiculous, but the Bulls should've played well enough (even sinking a couple more easy shots) to render them moot. You can't give up a 16-0 and a 16-2 run in the same game and expect to win.
Banana Aeon
Member
Only reason why I haven't completely given up hope for this series is that we played the last two games terribly, and still came out even. But we can not let this play continue. Something dire has to change soon.
LyleLanley
Banned
David Blatt:
NBA is out to get him.
Randolph Freelander
Member
A fighter pilot, you say. I guess LeBron's scratching the final play and putting Blatt on blast afterwards was his buzzing of the tower.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Blatt killed Goose. :/
LyleLanley
Banned
Banana Aeon
Member
David Blatt:
Blatt, if you're gonna ref your job being akin to one in the Air Force, you could have chosen my job.
I cook food and stay out the way of others.
eBay Huckster
Member
Because that rule is contingent on referees actually granting the (nonexistent) timeout. This rule was actually in play for both teams in Game 5 of the 1976 Finals - Paul Silas (of the Celtics) tried calling timeout with a few seconds left in regulation and the ref either didn't see or ignored it, and Paul Westphal (of the Suns) intentionally called timeout with none left (which was granted) in order to push the game to triple overtime.
(As it stands, given the outcome of the game's final shot and given that rule's existence, I'm not gonna harp on about refs given that the discretion on that rule is probably the entire reason the series is tied.)
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Ref should have called that technical on Blatt for entertainment purposes though. Lebron snappin. Blatt knowing he just lost his job, JR snuffing somebody out of anger. Mike Miller looking on from his starting bench position.
We missed out.
We missed out.
Randolph Freelander
Member
...Cleveland keeping Blatt, LeBron being incredulous, opting out, signing with the Knicks, LeBron haters all "I TOLD YOU SO," Cleveland-GAF like "I'm not even mad, I'd leave, too."
eBay Huckster
Member
The only thing that would possibly make that better would be the Knicks still somehow finishing under .500.
Banana Aeon
Member
It would have been the greatest moment in the history of the sport.
Lmao