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[Madness]

It won't necessarily be clear what could have caused the explosion for some time. The police urging caution under those circumstances is not surprising. This sort of speculation ought to be a bannable offense and I wish the NeoGAF moderators would take it more seriously.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/866806307159986176

I mean, it wasn't as if I speculated something so out of the ordinary, that a massive explosion at a public place with tons of individuals in the 21st century, wouldn't possibly be some sort of domestic/foreign attack. There is a reason we go to believing it is an attack because almost always that is what it is. But keep backseat moderating I guess.

Rest in peace for the victims. This hits hard because you think of little kids going to see their favorite pop stars and are innocent.

 

[Kadin]

Sky News Live says hospitals are reportedly treating shrapnel-like injuries.

Watching and listening right now, didn't hear this. What link are you following?

 

[Tovarisc]

I wonder if they caught he person before they could make it inside and they blew up.

Would line up with some reports that explosion happened in main entrances direction.

 

[shawnbuddy]

What in the actual fuck

not a pic, just a tweet.

https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/866790014717497345

I hope people realize this is not David Leavitt the novelist. This is David Levitt the freelance writer and asshole.

 

[R&R]

Looks like there might have been victims crushed from the stampede around the Victoria station stairs that connect directly to the arena. BBC eyewitness report.

 

[Monty Mole]

are security precautions different at concerts in England?

here in the USA, I don't see how someone could sneak in a bomb at a major concert like this

all my shit goes through a metal detector and I am searched all over

Airport style searches are standard in USA because of guns. But in the UK such a search has never been necessary.. historically. But major incidents can change this..

 

[Wes]

Witness being interviewed on Radio Five live says he saw lots of metal nuts at the scene. Schrapnel in this witness' terms. He had a wound in his foot from this schrapnel that was bleeding a lot (he just showed the journalist who said he needed to get to hospital). He was outside of the arena heading in.

 

[Symphonia]

Because you can put chemicals in a water bottle

You can build bombs out of metal.

 

[Baleoce]

Regarding those US sources, neither BBC or Sky have used the term suicide bombing as of yet. Just an fyi. Just "possible terrorist attack".

 

[thenight11]

@PeteWilliamsNBC: "Increasing confidence" among investigators this was terror attack; forensic evidence points to possible backpack bomb.

FYI is this being reported live on Msnbc

 

[FriskyrumX]

What in the actual fuck

not a pic, just a tweet.

https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/866790014717497345

I hope more people see this since he's a freelance writer and turn him away cause of this.. fuck this guy. Jesus christ... some people..

 

[Shredderi]

Not fucking again.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

The source of the 20 deaths is a man who was in the foyer waiting for his wife and kids. The explosion was behind him and he said there was 20-30 people seriously injured.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

From BBC live feed

Rachel from Barnsley told BBC Radio Manchester she was in Block 213 of Manchester Arena.

She was with her 14-year-old daughter. To avoid the usual delays exiting the arena at the end of a show they decided to make their way out just before the end.

"As we were going out we heard an almighty bang. At first I thought we'd missed something in the concert.

"As we turned around the corner there was an horrific stampede of people coming down the steps, people falling on floor.

"I grabbed my daughter and we just ran.

"There were people being crushed on the floor."

 

[NihonTiger90]

Is NBC unreliable?

No, just that Sky and BBC likely to be able to get info quicker from UK officials.

 

[iMax]

Sky News information from local hospitals: "They are treating a number of people with what are believed to be 'shrapnel/blast type injuries'".

 

[Masterspeed]

Where the fuck is NBC news getting all this information? They're not at the scene and actual UK news I'm watching and following via local TV (I'm in Birmingham) aren't saying fuck all about suicide bombings, gunmen outside hospitals and 100s being killed.

Why the hell are US news sites posting this shit? I'm sure as hell people who live in Manchester and if they're seeing that news via twitter or Facebook are probably freaking the fuck out.

 

[Weckum]

The panic produced is still part of the terror attack, if that was the case. I dont see the usefulness of making a difference between casualties.

It was a discussion about 'how one smaller bomb could make that many casualties'. I'm just stating that it might not have been the bomb itself that led to most casualties.

From BBC live feed

Horrible.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Wouldn't trust any news source from outside of the UK tbh. BBC should be on the ball - they're in part based in Manchester so will have good contacts as well as people on the scene quickly.

Nbc is quoting London based sources.

 

[LiK]

NBC is pretty reliable and they're going by what officials are saying. I'm sure things are fluid and will change.

 

[Violet_0]

Yeah, basically just checking if you're not sneaking in alcohol.

I can imagine especially at an Ariana Grande concert security wouldn't be that tight.

I worked as stadium security during an UEFA EC, and when a match was about to starts, we were told to pretty much just wave everyone it. The security checks were a joke

 

[fastford58]

What's your legitimate news source on that?

Common sense number one. Photos of the scene number 2.Training and ability to recognize trauma and cause number 3.

Plausible trampling deaths after the event, sure, but primarily casualties are going to be blast related and not some panic because a balloon popped.

 

[Soldiussnaku]

So its terrorism?

Cobra meeting happening so it does look like one.

 

[BahamutPT]

I always thought of a nail bomb as something kinda small. Would it be cable of producing an explosion like the one in that video?
That seemed like a HUGE flash and bang.

 

[Syder]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/866806620042481664

Wow... this is truly horrific.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

There's no metal detectors.

There will be.

 

[Pancake Mix]

Any cunt who would do anything like this (for a god who does not exist to boot), does not belong in the west.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Is NBC unreliable?

Yes

 

[Polygonal_Sprite]

I'm visiting my boyfriend in Manchester at the moment. We can hear the helicopters overhead as we're less than a mile from the attack. It's truly frightening. I'm scared the perpetrators might be around the area.

I'm a very anxious person but walking around Manchester City centre the past few days I could just see so many opportunities for terrorists to strike whether it's the main high street which had zero police presence on Sunday or the train stations where zero checks are made of luggage. I'm due to go home to Scotland by train on Wednesday and I'm already thinking of asking someone to pick me up by car if possible.

I hope everyone in Manchester stays safe and RIP to those who died.

 

[superdeluxe]

Well this dude is about to be out of a job.

Dude is a freelance twitch streamer and video game reviewer, don't think he actually employed by an org

 

[Broken Joystick]

Where the fuck is NBC news getting all this information? They're not at the scene and actual UK news I'm watching and following via local TV (I'm in Birmingham) aren't saying fuck all about suicide bombings, gunmen outside hospitals and 100s being killed.

Why the hell are US news sites posting this shit? I'm sure as hell people who live in Manchester and if they're seeing that news via twitter or Facebook are probably freaking the fuck out.

Yeah I wouldn't believe anything they're reporting without corroboration from a UK source.

 

[RawNuts]

What in the actual fuck

not a pic, just a tweet.

https://twitter.com/fuck the link

Wow, so fucking edgy, eh?

Who the fuck even thinks to respond like this to a situation where fatalities are just confirmed? Especially at an event where families and children are the main audience. Good job on this piece of shit for being so far removed from any kind of empathy that they're basically sub-human. Deny this person any working position in civilized human society.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

From BBC live feed

Honestly don't know what I would do if in this situation. Knowing that I may be crushing or hurting other people while trying to run. What's the answer in this situation?

 

[NewDust]

BREAKING: US officials briefed on Manchester explosion say UK authorities investigating arena incident as possible suicide bombing.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/866806307159986176

Investigating as....

BREAKING: Incident in #Manchester may have been a suicide bomb according to multiple US officials per @NBCNews Investigative team

Keyword: may

nothing confirmed yet.

 

[Arcteryx]

Where the fuck is NBC news getting all this information? They're not at the scene and actual UK news I'm watching and following via local TV (I'm in Birmingham) aren't saying fuck all about suicide bombings, gunmen outside hospitals and 100s being killed.

Why the hell are US news sites posting this shit? I'm sure as hell people who live in Manchester and if they're seeing that news via twitter or Facebook are probably freaking the fuck out.

 

[Viremira]

RIP to the victims, wish I could do/say more.

Terrible incident.

 

[botty]

Absolutely disgusting!

Ariana's concert is thematically about female empowerment, acceptance, gay rights, tolerance and other progressive ideas that terrorists hate... so this might have been very deliberate choice.

 

[SOR5]

Radio Manchester reporting bomb disposal squads are investigating an abandoned Audi

 

[Ushay]

Sitting in Manchester working a night shift, reading this is really nerve wracking

Hope all the poor people make it home especially the young ones.

 

[Oregano]

There will be.

They can do it at the doors to the arena itself but there's no chance they can close off the train station.

Also for people not paying attention London is nowhere near Manchester so citing sources in London means nothing.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

God damn, so it's third hand information? From UK officials to US officials to NBC?

 

[zsynqx]

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866808564316344321

 

[Kinyou]

Honestly don't know what I would do if in this situation. Knowing that I may be crushing or hurting other people while trying to run. What's the answer in this situation?

I doubt there's really a choice. People will push you to move forward.

 

[Moa]

Sky News reporting that GM Police reporting 19 dead.

EDIT: https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866808564316344321

 

[Weckum]

God damn, so it's third hand information? From UK officials to US officials to NBC?

Yup, it's like a game of telephone.

Also, love your avatar.

 

[Madness]

Honestly don't know what I would do if in this situation. Knowing that I may be crushing or hurting other people while trying to run. What's the answer in this situation?

It is fight or flight mentality. Remember the Colorado shooting in the theatre. Some tried to flee automatically for the exits leaving their spouses. Others laid down and covered their children or others and were killed instead. It is hardwired in our brains to protect our own or run. Which is why the rush to flee happens.

 

[plagiarize]

If this is terrorism I say this. If anyone thinks they are going to cause hate and unrest in multicultural Manchester they are very fucking wrong.

The city will stand shoulder to shoulder against any attack.

 

[Masterspeed]

God damn, so it's third hand information? From UK officials to US officials to NBC?

They basically use Chinese Whispers as a reputable news source at this point. It's ridiculous.

 

[D23]

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866808564316344321

Rip. Horrible. Wow

 

[Wes]

19 confirmed dead - Greater Manchester Police