GoldenCrow
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22 dead, 59 injured in Manchester Arena explosion (Being treated as an attack)
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Deleted my bad thought you posted another vid.
In these case basically any bag left behind will be treated as this tho.
I don't think ISIS has used an attack on first responders in Europe? I only remember seeing this a lot of times in Iraq and Syria. Even during the France attacks this didn't happen.
ronaldthump
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I was about to say, it's an impossibly difficult thing to predict and act well in these things
plagiarize
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Not in Manchester.
This is an attack on a multicultural community, no doubt *because* it is multicultural.
SenkiDala
Member
The explosion was outside. And they are kid, they maybe didn't think of a terrorist attack, it would be a big car accident or something.
Well, the report from the arena is that the explosion happened in the lobby/public space - so not in the actual performance area.
This is confusing. Sure it's a big venue but since a bomb killed 20 people, why is the announcer saying there's no problems? Certainly they'd all have just saw that happen. Is the audio fake?
We don't know yet
Herr Schwarz
Banned
I see, like where they sell hot dogs and such.
Twilight Princess
Member
the cnn phone interview is extremely upsetting
BBC Radio 5 Live update:
Policeman shouted to media "stand against wall, away from windows" - there will be a controlled explosion in 3/4 minutes.
Edit: Reporter was on Corporation Street.
Edit2: Double confirmation:
@CTVMercedes
Manchester police are telling British journalists a second suspect device has been found and they will execute a controlled explosion
Policeman shouted to media "stand against wall, away from windows" - there will be a controlled explosion in 3/4 minutes.
Edit: Reporter was on Corporation Street.
Edit2: Double confirmation:
@CTVMercedes
Manchester police are telling British journalists a second suspect device has been found and they will execute a controlled explosion
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Just fucking terrible. Fuck whoever did this.
Such a loss of innocent lives.
Sigh.
Such a loss of innocent lives.
Sigh.
I find the almost gleeful armchair experts declaring this that and the next thing to be much more obnoxious.
We saw just recently in New York an incident that seemed to mirror recent attacks in Europe that turned out to be nothing of the sort.
The fact is that around these sort of things there is a lot of misinformation. I live in Stockholm - with our recent incident there were reports of shootings all over the city that all turned out to be false. I tried to calm people in my office as they treated every single social media post as fact.
It isn't "let's wait and see", it is "let's listen to the officials rather than social media".
NihonTiger90
Member
al Qaeda was also quite infamous for this as well.
And from the Manchester Arena tweet, I'm guessing they're talking about it happening between the arena and Victoria Station, probably where you actually access the arena from the station (and vice versa)?
Masterspeed
Member
According to the radio, some people are opening up their homes in local areas to help families find their loved ones easier.
I'm so glad regardless of everything that happens, that I live in a country that'll always stay strong.
I'm still worried about it all because Manchester is pretty close to Birmingham and again my girlfriend is too worried to head to town.
I'm so glad regardless of everything that happens, that I live in a country that'll always stay strong.
I'm still worried about it all because Manchester is pretty close to Birmingham and again my girlfriend is too worried to head to town.
TheLionsDen
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Looks like the explosive might have occurred outside the arena
Audioboxer
Member
Outside the arena doesn't mean outside the building guys. They've reported foyer for a while now. It's inside the building.
They actually tried during the paris stadium bombing but the bomb didn't go off
TheMagician
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Source; Manchester Arena
https://twitter.com/ManchesterArena...Update_fb830a74-3f4d-11e7-9560-0e4530fa60e2/0
So seemed to have happened between the Arena and the Station. Might have been someone waiting, if it indeed was an attack.
Basically you leave the main entrance to the arena but you are still indoor in a large foyer type area with steps which then go down into the train station. The explosion happened in this foyer. It's about 40-50 foot wide.
APZonerunner
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It appears the attack took place in an area technically "outside" the arena, and there's a chance at this stage the people on stage simply heard the bang but didn't know the extent of it.
Basically, it goes Arena / Lobby sort of area / Train station -- the lobby is technically part of neither, but connects the two. It seems like that's where the attack was, at least from accounts.
Monty Mole
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LQX
Member
Ugh, oh fuck. So many. And they are most likley very young. I just do not get it.
Also, why the fuck do some of you need confirmation that this is a terrorists act? I keep seeing it asked. Making it seem as if these things are out of the ordinary. No it is not. Most of the time when we hear of explosions in a crowd of people it is in fact a damn terrorist attack and that really should be the prevailing thought until it is confirmed not to be terrorist attack. Sure it may not be an attack but our guard should be up until we know otherwise. Not the other way around.
Also, why the fuck do some of you need confirmation that this is a terrorists act? I keep seeing it asked. Making it seem as if these things are out of the ordinary. No it is not. Most of the time when we hear of explosions in a crowd of people it is in fact a damn terrorist attack and that really should be the prevailing thought until it is confirmed not to be terrorist attack. Sure it may not be an attack but our guard should be up until we know otherwise. Not the other way around.
Massive Nights
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It's likely minutes after the incident, they're not omniscient, they're just trying to get people out without panicking and causing a stampede.
Masterspeed
Member
Basically young children and tweens going to the concert haven't been reported found by families, which is really worrying because there was a lot of kids and tweens at the concert.
Are you fucking serious. Not only should the president NOT jump to conclusions on this kind of thing, he's in the Middle East. It's like 3 or 4 AM there. Please.
brandonh83
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Little Old Man
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BBC and Sky have been getting reports that the explosion happened directly outside, or just outside the arena. If that was the case, how would you know what had, or had not happened, apart from the noise?
Besides, what do you say? Run? There's a bomb? You'd cause a stampede.
Yeah, I'd expect there to be lots of bags left by the people fleeing, and the police have an impossible job - not sure I'd read this as a second device until the police confirm.
This is terrible :-(
Soldiussnaku
Member
Not in Manchester mate.
Been living near the city for 28 years with many Muslim relatives living inside of the city and many, many people living of all colours living in the main part and the surrounding towns and suburbs. Not many if any of the people I encountered and spoke to had problems with intergration, be it brown black or white.
Hell cheetam hill is melting point of muslims and Jews and they seem to get along fine as far as what I have seen and read.
Hissing Sid
Member
Agreed, the guy should have been screaming at everyone to run for their lives so we could have a nice stampede.
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He was trying to calm ppl to prevent further harm.
superdeluxe
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BlackGhost
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Wouldn't call it deflection. It's waiting for the facts, you can't just jump to conclusions. Most of us aren't in the know or close enough to the situation. Many of the authorities involved don't event have all the information yet
Kadin
Member
I'm hoping they play it again so I can confirm the actual verbiage but that's just about what he said from what I recall. But like I said in my edit, it's probably to try and keep people calm in the wake of a terrible incident. Or he honestly didn't know.
GM Police confirmind the controlled explosion:
https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status...Update_4652e3e8-3f4f-11e7-8b04-0e7d320b6ec2/0
https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status...Update_4652e3e8-3f4f-11e7-8b04-0e7d320b6ec2/0
Audioboxer
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Controlled explosion went off live on the BBC.
I think crowd control was their priority.
You don't understand the flaw in this logic?
Imagine the reaction of a large crowd when you tell them they are in the middle of a terrorist attack. Also, they don't actually know immediately? Just because it's likely doesn't mean they can start lying on TV. It's safer to treat the entire situation as a dangerous incident that needs to be evacuated safely and effciently, rather than a Sky News header reading....
"FUCKING TERRORIST ATTACK"