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22 dead, 59 injured in Manchester Arena explosion (Being treated as an attack)
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Imp the Dimp
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If the bombing happened outside the venue, perhaps that wouldn't have helped? I'm not sure at which point on the way into the arena your bag gets checked though.
Sarcastic Poster
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Monty Mole
Member
But the incident happened in the foyer, not in the arena.
SomedayTheFire
Member
If the explosion happened in the foyer, the perpetrator didn't get into the arena. It was a public space.
Masterspeed
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Also, when I post new information it's from Free Radio and BBC Radio stations so it's hard to post links about what I'm currently hearing live on my radio.
milkham
Member
I think they said it wasn't anything suspect
I would agree. And there was some of that, but the vast majority kept saying that we should wait for official reports.
Anyway, I just noticed that it is starting to get light outside. I guess I should go to bed ...
US government is leakier than the atlantic ocean nowadays
Usually yes. Metal detectors too from all the major concerts I've been to. Granted all of those have been in London though.
Vivalaraza
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US officials are leaking/sharing what UK officials are telling them, I think.
JonnyDBrit
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Apparently nothing more than abandoned clothing, not a second device.
TheAdmiester
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I believe the PD's twitter has said that it was abandoned clothing and not an actual device.
GiantBombGamer
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Non, discarded clothing.
Complistic
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ooph. It's a pain, but I like to think it at least makes shitty people think twice before trying something like this.
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
It sounds like this happened outside the performance area when the concert was ending. The bomber probably wouldn't have been searched there.
I can think of the most secure venues I've been to and this could still happen there because you likely wouldn't just be searched for entering a common area – it happens at the ticketing/gated spots.
plagiarize
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You would be much more careful to fully confirm every detail when reporting on the deaths of your countrymen.
BlazingDarkness
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There are no bag checks in the foyer, it's just a roofed area where the arena and the train station are, there's also a McDonald's in there, it's a public space with no security.
chrisPjelly
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Fucking hell. Condolences to the victims and their families.
Masterspeed
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Our news stations (The good ones) try to confirm news and access the situation before posting or reporting news from small amount of sources.
Most of the time we like to wait for an Official report by the local police force on the scene.
Stead Fast
Banned
BBC News channel reporting it was seemingly an article of clothing.
ColdDeckEd
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A fucking Arianna grande concert? What kind of evil fucks attack a concert full of kids. Damn this has my blood boiling. I hope justice comes swiftly to those responsible.
If the reports are accurate, the person of suspect walked in to the lobby at the end of the show - they wouldn't have been searched/metal detected.
Because UK organizations have always been more controlled than American ones and have far more to lose being wrong. Additionally, aside from BBC, possibly Sky, no one approaches the assets, reach and money that NBC, CBS, CNN and other groups have. Reuters is now going with suicide bomber as well because US officials are being told that by UK counterparts. UK officials probably afraid to share with UK news because maybe not allowed to.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Horrible occurrence. Can't help imagining how the event is going to be politicized to advocate for further restrictions of civil liberties and/or discrimination.
RIP to the victims.
RIP to the victims.
UK media outlets wont speculate much on domestic incidents such as this horrific one until they have confirmation from good sources. Strict rules in place in most instances.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-upd...rande-concert-manchester-arena-000236450.html
constantly updating from various sources if you want to track the event.
constantly updating from various sources if you want to track the event.
What kind of terrorism is it?
Theonik
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Less rigorous fact-checking standards/using unofficial sources.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
They're probably dead already going by some reports.
BlazingDarkness
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Muslim extremists would be a good bet. No use dancing around the issue.
Stead Fast
Banned
They [said US outlets] aren't 'confirming', simply putting up any speculation that comes to them. It's one of the most common problems with post-attacks like these, case and point, those reports of gunmen at a hospital. It isn't doing anyone any good reporting on everything without confirming facts first. Both Beeb and Sky seem to be doing their jobs just fine right now.
LFMartins86
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Their information wasn't correct.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
That's in poor taste, now is not the time.
At least 19 are dead, probably most young people with their futures ahead of them. Talk about that.
It's not correct though?
V
Vilix
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CNN is speculating it was a suicide bomber based "sources".
Why does it matter so much who got what first? Fucking hell.
Kadin
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Not sure if serious. They said like 200 injured and 20 killed. While close on the amount that died, the other was way off.
The One Who Knocks
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Yep, they've been extremely good at sticking to what is fact, and only what is known to be true, and made it clear where things are coming from and avoided re-reporting some of the speculation without confirmation, while being very careful with their phrasing.
My thoughts go out to all of those who were effected in this incident. With the crowd of such a young demographic, it's very unfortunate to hear the number of fatalities and injuries.
NullPointer
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If its a suicide bomber its a short list.
While the bomber is more than likely dead, his support network (if there is one) still exists.
plagiarize
Banned
No use in rushing to stick the word 'Muslim' onto this horrendous act.
Because that won't do any fucking good to anyone.
Doubtful. They wouldn't report the way they did without IRONCLAD sources. UK news agencies are more regulated and controlled. Plus, for example, local police forces sharing with their higher ups what happened. Those higher ups contacting US officials, intelligence officials and staff and most US agencies have these people as immediate contacts.
The fact checking is rigorous, and the sources are official. They just do not wait until everything is certain because they don't need to. BBC won't confirm until 100% certain.
Edit: again, going off the fact of unofficial sources. There will be a gulf in the truth when it actually comes out. But they aren't some tabloid making things up. They are going by what their official UK/US sources are reporting.