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22 movies Ebert really hated

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Monocle

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i dont remember reading his reviews but the LOTR movies were very overrated. if they were released today they would get blasted for their one dimensional leads, boring supporting cast with gollum being an exception of course and some of the most boring walking segments of all time.

Hobbit was poorly reviewed because of all these problems and that despite the fact that it at least had an interesting lead.
That's some straight up bullshit. Best trilogy in cinema history. It holds up great.
 

Kenstar

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Image if Ebert had to watch Madea movies
I swear Madea's Witness Protection is the worst acted worst shot movie I ever saw
I award it no points, and Black directed films are worse off for having to include this tripe in it's rank

Why he gotta hate on Hocus Pocus?
It's got a 30 on RT so you're the odd man out for liking it
Even as a kid I could tell that trash was not worth my time and I'm no movie snob
 
I watched that movie so many times on TV as a kid, and I still don't even really remember what it's about. I think I was too busy staring at the blond witch's cleavage.

That was one of the earliest movies to inspire an adult reaction in my preteen nether regions.
 
Image if Ebert had to watch Madea movies
I swear Madea's Witness Protection is the worst acted worst shot movie I ever saw
I award it no points, and Black directed films are worse off for having to include this tripe in it's rank

Bruh, it ain't that serious. I'm always astonished at the self loathing of his movies as representative of a group, when they're only a reflection of his work.

However Roger Ebert reviewed Diary of Mad Black Woman which featured Madea.
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/diary-of-a-mad-black-woman-2005
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Usual Suspects, whut? o_O

To each its own I guess
 

forrest

formerly nacire
17. The Village, one star.

“Eventually the secret of Those, etc., is revealed. It’s a crummy secret, about one step up the ladder of narrative originality from It Was All a Dream. It’s so witless, in fact, that when we do discover the secret, we want to rewind the film so we don’t know the secret anymore. And then keep on rewinding, and rewinding, until we’re back at the beginning, and can get up from our seats and walk backward out of the theater and go down the up escalator and watch the money spring from the cash register into our pockets

Straight ether
 

riotous

Banned
Yeah, his take on some action blockbusters were off. Understandable that Armageddon might be considered bad but still entertaining, but Gladiator was critically acclaimed and winning awards. Ebert missed the mark with that one.

It was near an era that sort of began the depressing trend in movies; characters getting shafted left and right and not so happy endings. He really didn't seem to like that kind of film and combine that with the art style and he found it a downer.

I think his opinion is understandable; but I loved everything he hated about the movie.
 

Parch

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I think movie reviews are highly dependent on the state of mind at the time of watching. If you're tired, mentally fatigued, or distracted by something else in your life, then you're probably not going to enjoy the movie. Under different circumstances, you might actually like it.

Pro movie reviewers watch a lot of movies so burnout and the resulting cynicism is bound to happen. Not every movie can be watched under the perfect circumstances where they're focused and open minded about the experience.
 

Savitar

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I remember watching his review of North oh so long ago, oh man he really REALLY hated that movie.

So did everyone else.
 
I'd go easy on him for his last few years of reviews. He had really bad cancer, and I'm assuming pretty good meds to make his life tolerable.

If you're going through that level of constant pain and discomfort, I'd perhaps be overly generous or stingy to whatever film I would enjoy or dislike at that time as well. But even before then the guy could veer wildly depending on whatever wild hare bit him that day as well.

case in point.
 

DiscoJer

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By Summer School, does he mean the Mark Harmon/Kirstie Alley movie?

It's by no means a great movie,but I don't see how anyone could hate it. It's a very ":safe" comedy that pushes no boundaries or transcends or subverts cliches, but it's not offensive or stupid like most of the bad comedies on that list
 
It was only recently that I discovered that some people actually have fond memories of Armageddon. Pretty much the epitome of formulaic, overly workshopped, corporate money-grab, action crap in my memory.

It was a huge hit in 1998. Personally, I think it's mildly entertaining I guess.

Anyway, the one's that I would disagree with the most are Tommy Boy (I think it's funny personally), and The Usual Suspects, which I don't love, but there a lot of things I like about it. I haven't seen all of the films listed, though, well not all the way through anyway. Opinions will be opinions though.
 
Can't argue with anu of those.


What he spewed there against Spice Girls and Spice World is pure blasphemy.

They're incredible, and that film's a timeless, untouchable masterpiece. I've been dreaming day and night for years for an ultra-HD, high frame-rate ,bluray release.

Well, that, and a Golden Girls 4K, HD, series box set. T_T

Please don't be serious.
 
reading his review of pink flaming, this got me hella hard

Then blurbs flash on the screen, including one comparing “Pink Flamingos” to Luis Bunuel's “The Andalusian Dog,” in which a pig's eyeball was sliced. Yes, but the pig was dead, while the audience for this movie is still alive.
 

RMI

Banned
I wish Ebert was still around.

same. He was a critic, who even if I didn't agree with him, I respected his opinion because the dude knew what he was talking about and was completely genuine. Also a fantastic writer.

Hate for fight club is spot on. It's basically an alt-right love story. Oh no my masculinity is in crisis so I have to be a fascist. So deep.

is that what fight club was about? I always thought it was kind of a comedy.

"Of course it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article a dildo, never your dildo" never doesn't crack me up.
 

alejob

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Not much has been said about 22 Clifford. I challenge everyone to go watch it and come back and tell me you don't want to choke someone.
 

Monocle

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Dark Knight trilogy says hello.
Not. Even. Close.

I can think of exactly one thing in the Dark Knight trilogy that rivals the quality of LOTR, and that's Heath Ledger's performance.

Frankly it's absurd to compare a set of good to great comic book movies with significant flaws to a pitch perfect cinematic masterpiece that raised the bar for almost every aspect of filmmaking, from prop design to mocap performances to orchestral scores to film adaptations of "unfilmable" books.

I mean, watch the behind the scenes material from the extended editions and try to tell me with a straight face that the Dark Knight trilogy remotely compares to the once-in-a-century artistic achievement of LOTR. We're talking about an extremely rare confluence of craftspeople, actors, writers, artists, and technicians creating a work of cinema that has almost entirely defied worthy imitation, even as it legitimized an entire genre and paved the way for other ambitious adaptations like Game of Thrones.
 
Hate for fight club is spot on. It's basically an alt-right love story. Oh no my masculinity is in crisis so I have to be a fascist. So deep.

Okay, I am gonna need an explanation on this on, because he was way way closer to a 50/50 mixture of anarchist and communist than he was a fascist. Unless I have spent years woefully misunderstanding the movie...
 

JB1981

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Hate for fight club is spot on. It's basically an alt-right love story. Oh no my masculinity is in crisis so I have to be a fascist. So deep.

The movie satirizes that entire mentality but also explores why it might be alluring. I think you should give it another watch with this in mind.
 
Okay, I am gonna need an explanation on this on, because he was way way closer to a 50/50 mixture of anarchist and communist than he was a fascist. Unless I have spent years woefully misunderstanding the movie...
Folding Ideas had an analysis of Fight Club and toxic masculinity. There is definitely the ironic transition of rebelling against society but then joining a regressive and fascist society of how men should be. The movie is confused about whether it's self-aware of that or is celebratory of that. He mentions geek culture and sexism or misogyny, too, and how it's no different than jock culture but just a different coat of paint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td88z08a_4c
 

Despera

Banned
Can we talk about this shit, though?

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I'll just assume that's a badly cropped image of a 4 star review.
 

JB1981

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Folding Ideas had an analysis of Fight Club and toxic masculinity. There is definitely the ironic transition of rebelling against society but then joining a regressive and fascist society of how men should be. The movie is confused about whether it's self-aware of that or is celebratory of that. He mentions geek culture and sexism or misogyny, too, and how it's no different than jock culture but just a different coat of paint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td88z08a_4c

The movie is not confused about that at all. It is ultimately a rejection of blind conformity in all it's forms whether it's modern consumer culture or fascist space monkeys.
 

stilgar

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Okay, I am gonna need an explanation on this on, because he was way way closer to a 50/50 mixture of anarchist and communist than he was a fascist. Unless I have spent years woefully misunderstanding the movie...

No,you're completely right.
It's indeed confused (and not that deep), but it's primarily about consumerism and individualism.
Please don't start shouting alt-right at every damn corner.
 
Okay, I am gonna need an explanation on this on, because he was way way closer to a 50/50 mixture of anarchist and communist than he was a fascist. Unless I have spent years woefully misunderstanding the movie...

Perhaps if you are under the illusion that fascism cannot be humorous or witty then something that celebrates it in a humorous or witty way can only be ironic. At any rate as Mussolini said, an anarchist is just a baffled fascist. The take away message for many from watching this film can be that that fascism has glamour and wit. The movie has a serious problem that it's "irony" comes from a knowing preconception that the protagonist is a "pathetic man" no matter what he does and in fact his exploits only make him more of a darkly comic clown. What use is subtle relativist irony against fascism.
 
I remember binging on his reviews on YouTube one time. The other guy he reviewed with had far better taste, Ebert for example tried to argue that Home Alone 3 was the only good one.
 
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