Stoney Mason
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You should spoiler that above post Sean.
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24 Season 7 info + details on the abandoned Africa plot
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Stoney Mason
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Blader5489 said:
Nobody will know until the episodes air how much is really different and how much is the same. But after 6 seasons the show basically has all the baggage that the bond franchise acquired. Despite all this talk I'm still fearful the show will essentially be the same gimmicks just with a change of setting. I doubt the producers have the balls to do a true reboot/revamp whatever you want to call it.
Spotless Mind
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This show has always been gloriously implausible, campy fun to me. I always rip it to shreds and laugh at it. That's part of its charm. I wholeheartedly welcome this news.
I don't disagree with Stoney Mason, though. The real time format *is* holding the writing back. I think the way a story can play out with this format has pretty much been exhausted. The real time format basically dictates that the story unfold in a specific linear way. That being a macguffin that drives the action, working toward stopping a particular endgame, following plentiful leads and coming into complications along the way. It has just become a predictable formula and i don't know if it can be changed radically enough. That being said, however, as long as there is an ensemble of interesting characters that we can care for (something season 6 completely lacked outside of the Chloe, Jack and Bill), the show can still be genuinely thrilling despite the predictable formula (season 5 fits this bill for me personally and it is my favourite season).
I was actually a fan of the idea of breaking the season up into real time blocks that add up to one whole day, just not a continuous one, as they alluded to in the dropped Africa plot. It would allow location changes and give the writers more options to take the story in different directions, instead of being held back by travel times (not that that ever stopped them :lol ) and such.
Unlike some other characters, imo the writers left themselves enough wiggle room with Tony's 'death' in order to bring him back. It somewhat reeks of desperation, for sure, but it isn't *totally* implausible to me. Implausability and 24, who would have thought? :lol
I agree. The changes made are sufficient enough to please me. The show still has to remain distinctly 24. It's like some of you want it to evolve into something that wouldn't be recognisable anymore. If they wanted to do a complete reboot, i personally wouldn't have minded a slow paced serial killer plotline using the real time format, but i'll admit that goes against everything this show *is*. No matter what, there are going to be elements that hearken back to earlier seasons or feel like repeat plotlines. It is the very nature of this type of action thriller. It is how the plotlines are executed that makes the difference.Sean said:
I don't disagree with Stoney Mason, though. The real time format *is* holding the writing back. I think the way a story can play out with this format has pretty much been exhausted. The real time format basically dictates that the story unfold in a specific linear way. That being a macguffin that drives the action, working toward stopping a particular endgame, following plentiful leads and coming into complications along the way. It has just become a predictable formula and i don't know if it can be changed radically enough. That being said, however, as long as there is an ensemble of interesting characters that we can care for (something season 6 completely lacked outside of the Chloe, Jack and Bill), the show can still be genuinely thrilling despite the predictable formula (season 5 fits this bill for me personally and it is my favourite season).
I was actually a fan of the idea of breaking the season up into real time blocks that add up to one whole day, just not a continuous one, as they alluded to in the dropped Africa plot. It would allow location changes and give the writers more options to take the story in different directions, instead of being held back by travel times (not that that ever stopped them :lol ) and such.
Nameless
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CloudNL said:The full pressrelease from FOX!
The innovative, addictive, Emmy Award-winning television series 24 resets the clock for Season Seven with a special two-night premiere event Sunday, Jan. 13 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) and Monday, Jan. 14 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.
In keeping with FOX’s commitment to airing original programming year-round, the intense season will unfold in 24’s regular 9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT time period beginning Monday, Jan. 14, and will continue to air all originals all season into June.
“Day 7” of 24 will continue the show’s unique and trend-setting format with compelling new elements. With CTU dismantled, the show’s setting moves to Washington, DC, where JACK BAUER (Kiefer Sutherland) faces trial for his actions in the pursuit of justice. Bauer’s day gets off to a shocking start when former colleague TONY ALMEIDA (Carlos Bernard), last seen in “Day 5,” returns after being left for dead by a terrorist conspirator in CTU’s infirmary.
“Tony’s uncertain fate near the end of ‘Day 5’ left the door open for his return,” said executive producer/show-runner Howard Gordon. “And since there was no silent clock at the conclusion of his last appearance – the 24 tribute to a major character’s demise – we always kept this as a possibility.”
Bernard’s return highlights a list of notable cast members clocking in for Season Seven, including the previously announced Cherry Jones (“The Heiress”
FBI Agents assigned to the team investigating the crisis befalling Bauer include Garofalo’s Agent Gold in addition to Annie Wersching (“General Hospital”
As part of News Corp.’s global commitment to fighting climate change, 24 has pledged significant and innovative changes to its production practices with the goal of saving energy and reducing carbon emissions. Created by Joel Surnow and Robert Cochran, 24 is a production of Real Time Productions and Imagine Television in association with 20th Century Fox Television. Joel Surnow, Robert Cochran, Howard Gordon, Evan Katz, Jon Cassar, Manny Coto, David Fury, Kiefer Sutherland and Brian Grazer are the executive producers.
I thinkTony will be the badguy!!
THIS HAS MADE MY MOTHERFUCKING MONTH...
OMG.. Seriously, I've had a shit day at work and to come home and read this is like the greatest thing ever.
FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES...
My heart willl probably explode with joy the moment I see HIM return!! FUCING YES
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
I don't think this will be a spoiler but
according to this http://web.mac.com/joncassar/Site/24.html it'll be a lot of Bauer action by the end of ep 2
Nameless
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And for the haters we disgust this in a previous thread at length, and the ultimate consensus was "fuck it" they need all the help they can get.
And as I stated in previous threads
I repeat, greatest day in the history of America. Might even dust off my secondary Gamertag named after him!!
And as I stated in previous threads
His "exit" from the show was left very much up in the air. Jack ASSUMED he was dead once Henderson injected him with that serum, and soon after Jack was abudcted by the Chinese. Its not too far fetched to believe Tony had survived. And as far as why he wasn't brought up last season, who knows, the government could've used his widely perceived death as part of his cover as some sort of undercover operative..who knows.. But I'm not fucking complaining. Tony for me is damn near close to Jack in terms of overall awesomeoness. They are two of my top 5 characters in TV history
I repeat, greatest day in the history of America. Might even dust off my secondary Gamertag named after him!!
Spotless Mind
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I don't like the idea
of Tony as a villain AT ALL.
Nice to see Bob Gunton is back after they thoroughly wasted him in the final few episodes of season 6. I'm really loving the casting thus far.jobber said:
Nameless
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Spotless Mind said:
Well I think its coming, and it makes perfect sense. Think about it.
Tony
the death of Michelle in that explosion, as he was was the real reason they went after Tony & Michelle in the first place
Tony
Henderson
inject Tony with that serum
Besides, who else would make a more bad ass villain? Most villains have been vastly inferior to Jack in every way, but
Tony
Spotless Mind
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It just begs the question.Nameless said:
Why bring Tony back at all if you are going to make him a completely different character to the one people loved? It's just overkill, considering last season Jack's father was the villain. Now his best friend he thought was dead is a bad guy? If it happens, it has to be executed EXTREMELY well for me to like it. Plus i don't think Carlos Bernard has the acting chops to pull off a villain role.
Stoney Mason
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Spotless Mind said:
They still have Jack cousin's to use as villains...His maid, His frat brothers from college perhaps....His daughter...
BoboBrazil
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Bluetooth Bauer was a badass villain until they killed him off in like ep 4 last year...
Spotless Mind
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:lolStoney Mason said:
Plus there's always Aunt Carol! Let's bring Leslie Hope back as her twin sister!
Hurricane_Chris
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CHARLES "MOTHERFUCKING BADASS" LOGAN better be back and have a big role this season!
Stoney Mason
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ddk said:
Yes that would make....absolutely no sense....
There's no way they make Tony the villain IMO. He may be bitter/depressed over Michelle's death but I doubt he'll be evil.
Peter Wingfield as the "shadowy Mr. Emerson" is likely playing the bad guy (http://web.mac.com/joncassar/Site/24.html). Wingfield was supposed to play James Nathanson in season 5 but he couldn't get over to the US in time for filming and they had to cast another guy.
Peter Wingfield as the "shadowy Mr. Emerson" is likely playing the bad guy (http://web.mac.com/joncassar/Site/24.html). Wingfield was supposed to play James Nathanson in season 5 but he couldn't get over to the US in time for filming and they had to cast another guy.
He's not going to be the bad guy.
And can we stop spoiler tagging this? This isn't a spoiler anymore
This was announced FOUR MONTHS before the show airs. It will be in every commercial, it will end up being on the DVD artwork, he will be in the cast photos, etc.
Seriously now. This isn't a surprise or a shocking plot twist that came without a hint.
They did exactly what I predicted: planned to do this last season, put it off until the end, then when ratings went down and it became the most hated of all the seasons, they said, "Okay okay, we're going to do it at the START of season 7. But announce it. That'll get people who left us this year to come back."
It's pretty obvious.
And can we stop spoiler tagging this? This isn't a spoiler anymore
This was announced FOUR MONTHS before the show airs. It will be in every commercial, it will end up being on the DVD artwork, he will be in the cast photos, etc.
Seriously now. This isn't a surprise or a shocking plot twist that came without a hint.
They did exactly what I predicted: planned to do this last season, put it off until the end, then when ratings went down and it became the most hated of all the seasons, they said, "Okay okay, we're going to do it at the START of season 7. But announce it. That'll get people who left us this year to come back."
It's pretty obvious.
Spotless Mind
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Huh? He is obviously alive and i can say without a doubt he will be back at some point.Stoney Mason said:
On second thought, looks like
might possibly be the villain after all.
And yeah it's kinda pointless to use spoilertags here, this is a season 7 thread after all. Did it anyway just in case.
Tony
"We didn't give him the silent clock because we always wanted to keep alive the possibility for some kind of (admittedly) miraculous resurrection ... which we will explain," Gordon wrote. "He's definitely NOT the Almeida we once knew." (emphasis on last sentence there).
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/09/tony-comes-back.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/09/tony-comes-back.html
And yeah it's kinda pointless to use spoilertags here, this is a season 7 thread after all. Did it anyway just in case.
Spotless Mind
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Yeah i read that and that's why i'm miffed by this news somewhat - if they go there. I can live with them bringing him back, but not with them making him a villain to make it 'personal' to Jack. Just look at last season. Jack's brother AND father were made villains and it didn't really bring much of anything to the table other than overblown family 'drama'. It was intensely personal and coincidental to the point of parody.Sean said:
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I still think they should do 24 in London starring: CLIVE OWEN!
AgentOtaku
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avoiding spoilers in this thread, so bailing out now.....haven't even watch S6 yet, waiting for Dec. release on DVD
Stoney Mason
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Spotless Mind said:
It's the same old 24 shit. Bringing back characters for no reason that makes any sense just to do it and force inject them into the plot.
Escape Goat
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Darko said:holy fuck, i fucking told you guys!!for the win!zombie tony
No!
Zombie Edgar
Son of Godzilla
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Holy shit I just heard about this. Hyped through the roof now, 24 to save this shitty season of television all on it's lonesome.
Zombie Tony, Ghost of Henderson, and Robotic Mandy Army form the perfect axis of evil. Show practically writes itself!
Escape Goat
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Tony getting payback for Jack killing Curtis and pretty much every other civilian who has tried to assist Jack in his terrorist attacks (because we all know that helping Jack = death sentence)
Nameless
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Solo said:
S4 was awesome , the episode where HE returned in season 4 is among my top 5 in 24 history. Seasons 1 & 3 were amazing, Seasons 2 & 4 were outstanding, Season 5 was great, and Season 6 was pretty good if judged on its own merits, but stacked up against previous seasons it was below average--definitely the weakest.
I think the consensus beef with last season from 24 regs was that they killed off far too many great characters in Season 5 and didn't give us more of Jack in Season 6 to compensate. In fact, we saw less of Jack than any other season, and the new(and weak in some areas) cast couldn't carry the show in Jack's stead like characters such as
Tony, Michelle, David Palmer, Charles Logan, Mike Novick
Tony
We know right now
Tony is coming back
CTU has been dissolved
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Son of Godzilla said:
Mandy is dead?
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