HazySaiyan
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So Hillary essentially has her own 50 Cent Party? Lol
A Hillary PAC is spending $1 Million to Correct Commenters on Reddit and Facebook
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Delusibeta
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Astroturfing is a massive no-no, regardless if you admit to it or not.
Prodigal Son
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"Correct"
Also this is really sad. Glad I can say I wasn't paid to say that.
Also this is really sad. Glad I can say I wasn't paid to say that.
This rationalization is hilarious. Obviously since they're loosely associated with your preferred politician the point it could just be a master plan to stop a bad practice.
OuterLimits
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Hillary always talk about wanting to close loopholes. I guess she finally found one she really likes.
You didn't actually believe that she wants to close campaign finance loopholes, did you?
She's scum.
SneakyStephan
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Paid shilling should be highly illegal, how on earth is it not highly illegal
Bowflex
The fact that anyone supports Hillary boggles my mind... I have tested between 130-160 on IQ tests
Yeah there's a word for this it's called
"Propaganda"
....or was it "Public relations?" Either way, no fascism here....
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html
"Propaganda"
....or was it "Public relations?" Either way, no fascism here....
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html
shadowsdarknes
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Hopefully he gets paid well.
All part of the plan
Source?
Ted Cruz' recent War Room ad.
Diprosalic
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well r/politics certainly needs some education.
Lol, yes make the queen proud. Only state sanctioned and approved education
Wuthering_Heights
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Seems like a waste of money when so many fanboys and girls are willing to put in the work for free.
TheLostBigBoss
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Pretty sure everyone astroturfs
Still need to drift the narrative to "your" liking, and creating enough content to do it will drift people to what ever you want to say.
Still need to drift the narrative to "your" liking, and creating enough content to do it will drift people to what ever you want to say.
Just watched it. Wow. I never ceased to be surprised by these campaign ads.
balladofwindfishes
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I'd be surprised if they didn't. A well run campaign should take the Internet into account when putting out messaging.
old manatee
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Sounds like a bunch of sexist Bernie Bros in here desperate to stop Queen Hillary's momentum. Also, have you guys tried EA Access? I was pleasantly surprised by the price and selection.
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Here come the Hillsplainers?
balladofwindfishes
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But I don't believe Trump isn't doing it. I'd be surprised if any candidate wasn't doing it. Hillary's camp has just been more... blunt about it.
No one should be doing it, period.
Feels pretty dirty when our future president is caught astroturfing the internet with paid employees to go around arguing with people to make them look better.
I mean, if it's good enough for Putin, it's good enough for us...?
I love how Bernie is just covered in fucking birds. I love Bernie but the whole bird thing is pure cringe.
I mean, if it's good enough for Putin, it's good enough for us...?
"How do I reach these keedz?"
I would correct nonsense like this for free.
I love how Bernie is just covered in fucking birds. I love Bernie but the whole bird thing is pure cringe.
BrokenIcarus
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Money well spent
Think of all the actual good things that could be done with this money...
eBay Huckster
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i'm enjoying the fact that absolutely no one decided to address this post in favor of prolonging the pretense that clinton is a special snowflake in this regard
NoblesseOblige
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Maybe it's because I don't base my politics on Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter, but I honestly don't think I care that Trump does it.
Because that article is talking about marketing on the internet, not astroturfing.
eBay Huckster
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one provides the tools for the other so i'm not seeing a very big fundamental difference
(though irrespective of any difference, david brock is still a putz so i hate everything about this)
Hoho for breakfast
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Anybody with open eyes could have told you this kind of shit is going on. I'd be surprised if it was not happening on Neogaf.
I'd guess any time you see someone say something ridiculous like "I was a Bernie Sanders supporter, but lately some of the things he's said..." you're probably dealing with a shill. Either that or they simply were never a Sanders supporter to begin with. They use language like that to persuade actual supporters and make whatever bullshit they have to spew sound more agreeable. If you pay attention though it's easy to see right through it.
I'd guess any time you see someone say something ridiculous like "I was a Bernie Sanders supporter, but lately some of the things he's said..." you're probably dealing with a shill. Either that or they simply were never a Sanders supporter to begin with. They use language like that to persuade actual supporters and make whatever bullshit they have to spew sound more agreeable. If you pay attention though it's easy to see right through it.
And you're making posts like this for free?
Diprosalic
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it was obviously a joke but dear god is r/politics a shithole and i say that as someone who would probably vote for Bernie if i could.
Macho Madness
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Wow. How much is Bernie paying you?
NoblesseOblige
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Bernie pays in dreams and promises.
Hoho for breakfast
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You mean how much have I paid him?
GiantBreadbug
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Bernie should take some of that money he fundraiser from actual humans and do the same.
As if he needs to. Remember the hot sauce thread?
DreamingCrazy
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It saddens me that some people actually think this is a good thing.
Spiral Insanity
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It worries me that people think her campaign is the only one astroturfing.
DreamingCrazy
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Well I certainly didn't imply that in my comment, wondering if that is what you think?
There is an ongoing information war that is executed through social engineering.
It is one of the reasons i initially stepped into the poltical threads on GAF. I noticed a very euro and bernie slant start springing up in these forums. Shit, step into a Ukraine/Russia thread and map those posters to current political threads.
It is one of the reasons i initially stepped into the poltical threads on GAF. I noticed a very euro and bernie slant start springing up in these forums. Shit, step into a Ukraine/Russia thread and map those posters to current political threads.
Outdoor Miner
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It could pay 1 month of Tad Devine's salary!
old manatee
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I continue to be impressed at how tech-savvy Clinton is. She astroturfs, she set up her own mail server, she's into drones. That'll appeal to millenials in the general.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Battle of the FUD Superstars
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Trojita
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The biggest issue, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that Sanders was using his own donated money which has caps on it. Citizens United made it legal for corporations and unions to spend from their general treasuries to finance "independent" expenditures related to campaigns. In this case "independent" doesn't mean independent because of the loophole. Astroturfing is bad in general, but it gets super bad when the deep coffers of a political action committee are allowed to finance this while coordinating with a campaign.
Azure Dream
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The big problem is the SuperPAC and campaign allegedly working together via a loophole. It's already known campaigns use their SuperPACs in ways they're not supposed to, but it sounds like this crosses a new line.
Edit: Trojita said it better on the bottom of the last page.
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