DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
its deffo a next gen only game. Sure it might not be as optimized as some big titles but the engine and world size etc is very impressive. Series S is putting in work running this!
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Lower the near field
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
All my screenshots in this thread is from the PS5
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Whats the internal resolution with DLSS Balanced? Do you know?
I know in cybperunk, DLSS quality halves the internal resolution when running the game in 4k to 1440p, and down to 1080p in Performance, but ive always wondered what resolution Balanced uses.
kikii
Member
BigbyTheSheriff
Member
I know that in Control it was 626p, Quality 720p and Performance 540p.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh holy jesus they weren't kidding about increasing the rat count.
SSRraytracedshadows were enabled already so I didn't touch that, I turned raytracing to 1 and raytracedshadows to 1 and no difference, same framerate and couldn't see any changes to shadows (I was in an underground area with rats and numerous lights so there should have been an impact). I noticed when I quit the game it set raytracing back to 0 so I changed it again and set the file to read only and tried again and same story no performance impact and no visible changes.
4k balanced = 2227x1253
2k balanced = 1485x835
it goes quality->balanced->performance in render resolution.
Need to de-select "Allow 4k" in video options menu. You will lose HDR doing this on Xbox however to get that 120hz 1440p mode.
Negotiator101
Member
Only played half hour but similar in terms of gameplay but a massive improvement graphically. In fact the environments are incredibly detailed and much bigger compared to the original. The character models and animations are better but the difference is not as significant.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Is there an OT? Took some screenshots with DLSS3.0
already screenshots in here, I'm keen to see them.
FUBARx89
Member
Yeah I found that out eventually, but a toggle in the game menus would still be nice.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
I literally am going from part 1 right into part 2. They are pretty similar, but I'm just on chapter 1 still. I think a lot of the animations are literally exactly the same also. Such as the guards discovering you, hitting you with a punch then doing the single downward chop. Exactly the same. Using the sling looks exactly the same.
The character models are updated though and the environments look extremely good. But honestly, they looked extremely good last time as well. The controls are slightly changed and you can tell there's some new abilities coming soon.
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twilo99
Gold Member
Right but they can do both!
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Just finished Chapter III. Game of the fuckin' year for me, period. Also, the more I'm playing, the more jaw-droping the game is visually. As for narrative so far, the way Asobo written Amicia this time around, how emotional she becomes to a point of emotional breakdown at some point, the way voice actress voiced her deserves a fuckin' Oscar.
This is how Aloy should behave in most life and death situations and scenes, when you need to show emotions in Horizon, but instead we barely see anything from her on that front which disappointed me a lot in Forbidden West. And yeah, I know that she's written that way cuz of who she is but at the same time it does not make sence when you see your friend die etc. and show almost nothing in the moment or after. Guerrilla clearly has something to learn from Asobo on that front.
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Working on uploading now. Had to convert due to the way nvidia captures them.
dorkimoe
Gold Member
Random complaint, when you make me have a sidekick or companion or whatever...dont put them in the centr of the screen. When you are walking with the dumb little boy, it kinda slides you to the left side of the screen and the kid in the middle even though you control the girl...kinda annoying
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Left the overlay on to show performance. With DLSS 3.0 the fps speaks for itself. Runs perfect and game is very enjoyable so far.
Rig
5900x
64gb DDR4
4090
Win11
Note that the screenshots were converted to jpeg to accommodate web host.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
MY EYYYYYYYES!
Left the overlay on to show performance. With DLSS 3.0 the fps speaks for itself. Runs perfect and game is very enjoyable so far.
Rig
5900x
64gb DDR4
4090
Win11
Good god, how can you play the game with such a huge oversaturation and contrast turned up to heavens?
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Left the overlay on to show performance. With DLSS 3.0 the fps speaks for itself. Runs perfect and game is very enjoyable so far.
Rig
5900x
64gb DDR4
4090
Win11
Note that the screenshots were converted to jpeg to accommodate web host.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Oh ok. For a second, I thought they were converted to punish my eyes.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I haven't seen everything when it comes to combat yet, but what they did with stealth so far is a big improvement over original game. Checkpoints are MUCH better now, so you just can't start encounter each time from the biginning like in original game, thank fuck for that. You also can't die from the first or even second strike when enemies hit you, unlike instant game over in the fist game everytime you're seen by anyone. Enemies are way smarter now, searching you everywhere so you can't feel safe anywhere if rats not helping you keep them at bay. There's also more options to do stealth by hiding under tables and stuff like that, throwing rocks (which are unlimited now) quickly to avoid detection and make a split second decisions. All in all, they've improved gameplay big time and I can't be more happy to see this, cuz I hated the first game's guts for the way stealth, save system and combat worked in it.
But if there's one thing to complain about, it has to be the way stupid scripts work (spoiler):
But if there's one thing to complain about, it has to be the way stupid scripts work (spoiler):
So you can save herbalist in one of the chapters, but to fuckin' do it, I had to replay this fuckin' moment like 20+ effin' times cuz I could't make rats to eat only soldiers, or soldier rushed for me and herbalist died cuz of rats etc. etc. etc. Each time something stupid happened and I had to replay. I was at a point of throwing my DualSense at a monitor. Why the fuck does it have to be SO effin' hard to save an NPC, huh? Asobo, are you effin' nuts? Jesus fuckin' Christ almighty.
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marjo
Member
Just finished chapter 3, and I'm not sure what to think. The graphics are excellent, the setting unique, and story seems pretty good, but the gameplay just seems so prescribed.
Like most of these cinematic 3rd person action games, I feel like the creators have a certain way they expect you to do things, are you're just basically going through the motions. The one 'puzzle' I came across basically had the characters tell you exactly what to do. Step by step. What was the point? Where's the player agency?
I don't know, maybe this type of game just isn't for me.
Like most of these cinematic 3rd person action games, I feel like the creators have a certain way they expect you to do things, are you're just basically going through the motions. The one 'puzzle' I came across basically had the characters tell you exactly what to do. Step by step. What was the point? Where's the player agency?
I don't know, maybe this type of game just isn't for me.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Left the overlay on to show performance. With DLSS 3.0 the fps speaks for itself. Runs perfect and game is very enjoyable so far.
Rig
5900x
64gb DDR4
4090
Win11
Note that the screenshots were converted to jpeg to accommodate web host.
protonion
Member
Finished the first two chapters on PS5.
The graphics are truly incredible at times.
Some performance issues here and there but the do not bother me.
The game itself on the other hand...
I loved the original and this is more of the same, but at the same time something feels off.
The stealth sections are bigger with many routes and options which may sound good, but the focused and puzzly stealth design of the first game is lost.
The original also had a way stronger beginning.
It's not bad by any means but I really hope it gets better.
The graphics are truly incredible at times.
Some performance issues here and there but the do not bother me.
The game itself on the other hand...
I loved the original and this is more of the same, but at the same time something feels off.
The stealth sections are bigger with many routes and options which may sound good, but the focused and puzzly stealth design of the first game is lost.
The original also had a way stronger beginning.
It's not bad by any means but I really hope it gets better.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
That sounds pretty annoying. The first game was almost all super easy and scripted with one obvious way to go. Not the best gameplay, but it kept the pace moving along nicely.
Stuart360
Member
Well there are quite a lot of these large areas with different routes where yuo have to sneak past multiple enemies. The game doesnt always make it clrear where you are actually trying to get to though as there is no map or markers etc
Negotiator101
Member
Actually after playing Scorn then coming to this I'm finding rather straightforward. Scorn was quite frustrating at times.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Regarding my screenshots
I WAS IN THE POOOL
I WAS IN THE POOOOOOL!
I think it has to do with HDR being on since I didn't even mess with things hardly when it comes to brightness.
I WAS IN THE POOOL
I WAS IN THE POOOOOOL!
I think it has to do with HDR being on since I didn't even mess with things hardly when it comes to brightness.
MaKTaiL
Member
Disable motion blur, it's not very good here.
twilo99
Gold Member
I am getting a lot of blown highlights as well, what's the remedy? Do i need to upgrade to Win11 for auto HDR? I can't find any HDR settings inside the game.
Otherwise this game looks incredible.
Everything on HIGH @ 1440p the 6800xt runs it between 50 and 120 frames so basically unplayable without a VRR panel.
Otherwise this game looks incredible.
Everything on HIGH @ 1440p the 6800xt runs it between 50 and 120 frames so basically unplayable without a VRR panel.
Negotiator101
Member
You want nice graphics the framerate must suffer unfortunately.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm thinking it's an HDR or bloom issue. I think you disable bloom in the video settings. Not home right now but I'll try later. It does look pretty good and runs stellar.
More than anything I have to try it without frame generation to compare exact performance differences.
Bojji
Gold Member
First thing I did
Horizon FW looks about on par in terms of fidelity, yet it is fully open world and either 4K/30 (compared to 1440p here) or 60FPS with dynamic res and CB (looks ok after the patch).
Asobo has fucked up priorites here and even after adjusting to this "cinematic" framerate I still have to deal with pixelated depth of field and other screen smearing techniques they used (thank god player can disable CA).
Negotiator101
Member
Budgets my friend.First thing I did
Horizon FW looks about on par in terms of fidelity, yet it is fully open world and either 4K/30 (compared to 1440p here) or 60FPS with dynamic res and CB (looks ok after the patch).
Asobo has fucked up priorites here and even after adjusting to this "cinematic" framerate I still have to deal with pixelated depth of field and other screen smearing techniques they used (thank god player can disable CA).
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Seriously. The first game took a while but got a free next gen patch. I think they just struggled to get it out the door on time. I expect optimization to improve over time, unfortunately. Even Horizon had to get patches though.
Negotiator101
Member
You expect a 60fps version on console? Hopefully but it's a lovely looking game IMO.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
I would be shocked if they couldn't do a 1080/60, but I have no real informed opinion on it. The game looks awesome, but I didn't think it was a whole generation ahead of the last one. The first one looked super good also.
Strider Highwind
Banned
On a 4090 with everything turned up at 1440p. Like my 1440p monitor it has a really high refresh rate lol
FunkMiller
Gold Member
What TV are you on? Feels pretty smooth on my CX.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
Considering the fact I hate stealth games I'm here to report that I've been playing this for the last 2 or 3 hours.
It commits two of my biggest gaming sins being a stealth game with unstable performance and I still can't stop playing.
It's really fucking good.
It commits two of my biggest gaming sins being a stealth game with unstable performance and I still can't stop playing.
It's really fucking good.
Bojji
Gold Member
As I said, bad priorities. They should have made performance target from from the start and build game around it or just implement dynamic resolution on consoles with optional performance mode.
I would be shocked if they couldn't do a 1080/60, but I have no real informed opinion on it. The game looks awesome, but I didn't think it was a whole generation ahead of the last one. The first one looked super good also.
I have 5700XT so in raw power around PS5 GPU (slighty worse), PC version can do 60FPS in 1080p with mix of low, medium and high settings (with v. high textures).
yamaci17
Member
wait until you arrive the 300k rats place. then the game becomes super CPU bound. supposedly 3700x tops around 35-40 fps in those scenes. which could explain why they locked it to 30/40. ihowever the game is not completely compromised of rat scenes, so a VRR unlocked mode would be great
yeah, gladiator place definetely kills the CPU with rats;
joys of having full creative control over VRR thankfully enabled me to play the game at 60+ frames up until this point. it is still interesting however. i will proceed to play with variable framerates
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