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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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elrechazado
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Which reminds me - we have tons of possibly special horns:
Mance's horn supposedly the horn of winter to take down the wall, captured by stannis
Euron's horn, found in valyria, supposedly controls dragons
horn on the island of stannis's man, supposedly summons krakens
horn found by jon on the fist of the first men. Currently held by samwell? (many think this is the real horn of winter)
Mance's horn supposedly the horn of winter to take down the wall, captured by stannis
Euron's horn, found in valyria, supposedly controls dragons
horn on the island of stannis's man, supposedly summons krakens
horn found by jon on the fist of the first men. Currently held by samwell? (many think this is the real horn of winter)
elrechazado
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Yeah, i don't really believe the theory myself, but it's a pretty common one. It's also broken, so we'll see what happens with it. It's gotta be significant though.zmoney said:
elrechazado
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my bad, the kraken horn was claw isle, house celtigar
Is it possible that Mance's wildlings weren't running from just the others, but maybe there's something even worse/crazier back there? What if there were ice dragons/wyrms/whatever back there, and Bran ended up warging with them (sounds dirty), then some combination of the Starks rode against Dany on her...regular dragons, at least one of which would be stolen by Euron. Would make sense if ADWD wasn't the next book, but oh well.
Would never happen, but it'd be neat.
Also, they didn't end up clearing out the wildfire Aerys II had hidden, did they? I didn't think so as Jaime hasn't told anyone why he really killed the king, but some part of my mind thinks Hallyne found it when he was getting it all for Cersei. If not, King's Landing is going to light up when Dany rolls through.
Would never happen, but it'd be neat.
Also, they didn't end up clearing out the wildfire Aerys II had hidden, did they? I didn't think so as Jaime hasn't told anyone why he really killed the king, but some part of my mind thinks Hallyne found it when he was getting it all for Cersei. If not, King's Landing is going to light up when Dany rolls through.
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Tyrion uses most, if not all of it, in the blackwater. References to him using "aerys' overripe fruit".tuxor said:
elrechazado
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I love that quote in the book about nymeria not letting any lesser wolf mount herbengraven said:
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- The folks from Westeros.org talking about The Masterminds of Ice and Fire *spoilers for the first four books*
elrechazado
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so hawt. Maybe that could foreshadow bran getting with arya all targy style.bengraven said:
elrechazado
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yeah, those giants were never asleep either, they were always beyond the wall if you believe people like osha, and there's no reason to believe that the giants suddenly appeared. The wildlings seem to be very familiar with them.zmoney said:
zmoney said:
She gets chapters in ADWD, but I don't think she gets very many. She'll probably just get another 3-5 chapters, which should be enough to finish her training (or whatever else she might do in Braavos), assuming big time gaps in between.
My guess is her last chapter in Dance ends with her boarding a ship back to Westeros.
Basileus777
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hteng said:
It hasn't been released yet, no one here has read the book....
LaserBuddha
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hteng said:
Why would you want that?
LaserBuddha
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Hodor
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it is knownKingK said:
heliosRAzi
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Will his chapters just consist of one "Hodor" or will it be "Hodor hodor hodor. Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor. Hodor. Rodoh. Hodor hodor hodor" ?KingK said:
Basileus777
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Bullshit. If GRRM kills off Dolorous Edd I'm burning my copies of this series.
heliosRAzi
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The Iron throne felt cool against his massive manhood. It lay there, floppy like a ragdoll soaked in water. "Hodor," Hodor nodded and Varys, the master of whispers, shuffled over to him. Hodor noted that he smelled of lavender. "Hodor," the King spat.KingK said:
With a seductive look in his eye, Hodor looked upon Cersei, Dany, and Melisandre, and, with the faintest smile, he whispered to them, "Hodor," and pointed at his erect sword ready to thrust into their frothing parts.
I think I went too far
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heliosRAzi said:
Reads like Martin to me
LegendofJoe
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Some people still believe that Martin hasn't given up on the gap and plans to implement it in between ADWD and TWOW.
Basileus777
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LegendofJoe said:
There is no real reason to believe that will happen. All the reasons he scrapped it after ASOS still apply to after ADWD.
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LegendofJoe said:
Has to happen. Arya is still way to young to be the bitter seasoned warrior she's on the course to being. Maybe some micro gaps would be better? A large gap would definitely be a headache since Martin will have to reintroduce a lot of the characters since whatever (large) amount of time gone by will assuredly change the characters due to experience.
Even if time were to flow evenly from Dance to the last book in the series it will only be a few years I think. If Martin is to potentially fail at anything in this series I think it'll be this problem. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
LetsGoKiting
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Basileus777 said:
This. Dolorous Edd is like ASoIaF's Eeyore.
Wasn't there a scene before the Red Wedding when Robb chooses an heir? When I first read it, I thought it was important, but GRRM hasn't made any mention of it since. I assumed he picked Jon.
I posted this in the series thread because I started thinking about it while looking at the series and specifically the last two episodes but this thread might be more suitable because the discussion can be broader.
Watching Varys talking with Ned made me wonder how much Varys knew at the time about the threat of Mance Rayder and the White Walkers beyond the wall. It's implied through the books that Varys knows pretty much everything that's going on in the Realm. So it isn't really that far-fetched that he has informers at the Night's Watch and maybe even beyond the wall. This makes me wonder if he actually wanted Ned at the Wall because it wouldn't hurt to have some more capable Stark bodies up there. But it's never touched upon again and AFAIK Varys isn't really connected to the shitstorm brewing in the North in later books.
Watching Varys talking with Ned made me wonder how much Varys knew at the time about the threat of Mance Rayder and the White Walkers beyond the wall. It's implied through the books that Varys knows pretty much everything that's going on in the Realm. So it isn't really that far-fetched that he has informers at the Night's Watch and maybe even beyond the wall. This makes me wonder if he actually wanted Ned at the Wall because it wouldn't hurt to have some more capable Stark bodies up there. But it's never touched upon again and AFAIK Varys isn't really connected to the shitstorm brewing in the North in later books.
I'm sure Varys is aware of whatever the Nightswatch knows. Which is to say not much. But what they do know they would inform to Winterfell and Kings Landing. So there is literary zero reason for Varys or Littlefinger to have spies there.
Varys wanted Ned at the wall because its a way for Ned to confess without having to die and thus turning the North against Kings Landing
Varys wanted Ned at the wall because its a way for Ned to confess without having to die and thus turning the North against Kings Landing
LetsGoKiting said:
Because everyone who knew about it is either dead, locked up in the Twins or MIA. I am sure it will come to play somehow since its such an awesome plot point.
There's speculation it could not be Jon but all evidence points to Robb legitimizing Jon as a Stark and appointing him heir over Sansa.
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zeroshiki said:
Well they thought Sansa was fucked in the head (she is) and was siding with the Lanisters didn't they?
Really loving Feast on my first reread. Even the Brienne and Cersei chapters! Not a fan of the Soiled Knight's chapters, though. They kind of feel like an extended ASOIIF prologue/epilogue: even of the first read, you know things will end horribly for the POV, and his stupidity is quite painful to read. Plus Darkstar reads like he just came out of a shonen manga.
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