Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think that's everywhere, isn't it?
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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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I think that's everywhere, isn't it?
PhoenixDark
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But in the north a daughter comes before an uncle.
Ah you're right. Still, the North would need someone to rally to, and as regent Jon (or whoever else might be chosen) would be essential.
Yeah I don't think it's likely, but there split second of Ygritte in the episode 10 preview is her preparing to shoot something with her bow.
Stannis needs to capture Ramsay so we can have Reek torture him.
theon betrayed his king (robb) and supported another traitor (his father). theon isnt getting out of the north alive.
#youronetrueking
TheChewyWaffles
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This comment, so good:
Although, he is probably not dead.
I'm thinking Jon is going to get Beric Donarrion'd.
Also, I re-read the Red Wedding chapter because I was damn sure that I didn't recall his wife being there. Someone remind me - what actually did happen to her?
Is Ep10 going to show the head-swap thing with Grey Wind? That will be worth a few more reactions from the TV watchers.
Also, what is Season 4 Ep 9's big one going to be? Tywin? I know Joff's is next. I assume that will be somewhere mid-way through Season 4.
Morrigan Stark
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We all are, lol. Either that, or he turns into some sort of Coldhands-like creature, or he wargs into Ghost, or a combination of all that.I'm thinking Jon is going to get Beric Donarrion'd.
Jeyne Westerling stayed at Riverrun. After Riverrun's surrender she was taken into Lannister custody (after they made sure she wasn't pregnant) and the last we saw of her, she was being escorted to Casterly Rock. Her mother, Lady Sibel, was part of the plot and fed her moon tea (and instead saying it was a fertility tea) to make sure she didn't conceive, in exchange for Lannister rewards and good marriages (lords and heirs) for her children.Also, I re-read the Red Wedding chapter because I was damn sure that I didn't recall his wife being there. Someone remind me - what actually did happen to her?
My guess is the trial by combat, Oberyn vs the Mountain. Oh man the non-reader tears... they will be all, "okay we can root for Tyrion now, he's the last good guy, and his champion is cool, he'll win..." then D&D and GRRM will go, "nope". xDAlso, what is Season 4 Ep 9's big one going to be? Tywin? I know Joff's is next. I assume that will be somewhere mid-way through Season 4.
D&D hinted that season 4 will have a battle bigger than Blackwater near the end, so it's probably the attack on the Wall and "Stannis! Stannis! Stannis!" for episode 9. Though I hope that happens as soon as possible.
They usually have a big moment by episode 4 as well, though it's obvious what that will be.
They usually have a big moment by episode 4 as well, though it's obvious what that will be.
Basileus777
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I'm trying to decide once and for all if the Jeyne/Talisa changes were a good move by D&D.
The whole pregnancy and babby stabbing definitely added an extra level of tragedy, but it made zero sense for Robb to take her to the wedding. None whatsoever.
I can buy that TV Robb was too dumb to realize this, but you'd think someone would have pointed it out - specifically Cat.
I dunno. The sequence was phenomenal, but that lapse in logic is a bit irritating.
It makes sense to bring her to the wedding for the TV show. Leaving her alive would be a loose end that would be better off ended.
I think that's everywhere, isn't it?
Probably, but I remember that this was a specific issue for House Karstark.
KingHenrik30
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God I love this thread. Unmarked spoilers, knowledgeable people.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Probably, but I remember that this was a specific issue for House Karstark.
It's not really anything specific for Karstark. It's just brought up in relation to them in the fifth book.
Outside of Dorne, inheritance laws are pretty much identical. Sons come before daughters, daughters before brothers, brothers before sisters, sisters before uncles, etc.
What event could possibly happen in TWOW that would make you react in the same way as you did to the RW or even Oberyn Martell?
Maybe it's because the RW has desensitized me (with the help of last night's episode) but at this point, I don't think even Tyrion's or Dany's deaths would shock me, no matter how suddenly or brutally they die.
If anyone of importance dies in the next book, I believe it'll be one or more of: Stannis, Bolton(s), Frey(s), Jaime, Cersei, Brienne, or Greyjoy(s). I don't believe an event like RW/Ned's death will happen again, partly because Westeros is in such a huge mess right now, with betrayals happening left and right and no one being 100% sure of who is actually alive or dead.
If Dany dies before Westeros, I walk. What a bullshit waste of my time that whole damn arc would be.
I completely agree
If Euron dies in the Battle for Meereen I'll be super pissed off too
Supermanisdead
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I could see stannis biting it after killing his wife as a sacrifice or something. And mace tyrell needs to go unless he already has (?)
All the iron born should be wiped out.
All the iron born should be wiped out.
If Dany dies before Westeros, I walk. What a bullshit waste of my time that whole damn arc would be.
Yep. Same for me if Jon is actually dead.
If Dany dies before Westeros, I walk. What a bullshit waste of my time that whole damn arc would be.
I would bank on Dany (+ the rest of the POV characters from book 1 who are alive tbh) making it at least to the final book.
Especially Dany. There is NO way she isn't reaching Westeros by the end. I just hope she doesn't decide to stay in Essos, or if she does, at least one person from Westeros (ie Tyrion, etc.) meets with her at some point. I remember being so hyped after reading the jacket of DWD, thinking Dany and Tyrion would meet in the book. :/
The red wedding reminded me of the bullshit Jon "death." Whether he lives or dies, it's just so annoying that that gray motherfucker is just incapable of giving us an awesome moment with a Stark character. Now THAT did feel like trolling your readers.
Jon better be revived completely. I don't want him turned into a wolf for the rest of the books. And if he is dead, then fuck GRRM and fuck everything.
edit: it'd be effing hilarious if Dany just stayed in Essos. If the TV show had come along after the books were done I'd imagine her entire character and narrative would be eliminated.
Jon better be revived completely. I don't want him turned into a wolf for the rest of the books. And if he is dead, then fuck GRRM and fuck everything.
edit: it'd be effing hilarious if Dany just stayed in Essos. If the TV show had come along after the books were done I'd imagine her entire character and narrative would be eliminated.
Basileus777
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It'd be a waste, but also a relief if Dany died. Go ahead and kill every character involved in an Essos plotline outside of Braavos.
Basileus777
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I would have been fine with Dany dying from the bloody flux at the end of ADWD, it would have given us some form of satisfaction to end the book with.
I would have been fine with Dany dying from the bloody flux at the end if ADWD, it would have given us some form if satisfaction to end the book with.
AND THEN SHE SHAT.
AND THEN SHE SHAT SOME MORE UNTIL SHE COULD NO LONGER SHIT AT ALL.
I enjoyed the Essos chapters quite a bit. Running a city can be pretty tedious I imagine. Also enjoyed Tyrion's journey as well.
Yep.
My least favorite subplot in the series is the Dornish stuff. But even then the Vipers aren't bad.
I enjoyed the Essos chapters quite a bit. Running a city can be pretty tedious I imagine. Also enjoyed Tyrion's journey as well.
In retrospect, Tyrions journey is just absolutely bizarre... It's awesome.
Yep.
My least favorite subplot in the series is the Dornish stuff. But even then the Vipers aren't bad.
I really love the Dornish though. They're so liberated compared to the rest of the world and it makes for a refreshing read, but I can see why some wouldn't.
In retrospect, Tyrions journey is just absolutely bizarre... It's awesome.
Making him join a mummers duo is so sadistic it is crazy. Having him ride around on a pig or dog or whichever animal he was stuck with is just so sick.
I love how through all that he kept his wits and found a way to drag himself out of the slavery. Tyrion is awesome. Which means he will die in the next book.
endlessflood
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What do we know about the Doom of Valyria? For such a cataclysmic event there doesn't seem to be much in the way of theories or speculation about it.
I would have enjoyed Tyrion's stuff but Penny.
Penny is a weird character.
Supermanisdead
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Who cares about Stannis and Dany, when will Jhalabar Xho reclaim his throne?
What do we know about the Doom of Valyria? For such a cataclysmic event there doesn't seem to be much in the way of theories or speculation about it.
Within the World of ASOIAF or within the fandom?
I find the whole Bank of Braavos situation interesting. What power do they really have? Just money to buy mercenaries? Money to buy the Faceless to do their dirty work? Actual armies?
I like the setup for how big a role they will play in the last two books with how deep their debt with the crown is and Cersei's mismanagement of that debt.
I like the setup for how big a role they will play in the last two books with how deep their debt with the crown is and Cersei's mismanagement of that debt.
I would have been fine with Dany dying from the bloody flux at the end of ADWD, it would have given us some form of satisfaction to end the book with.
That would be impossible because women don't shit.
That would be impossible because women don't shit.
Until they get married and then they magically can't stop. Stinky.
curlyfriski
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What do we know about the Doom of Valyria? For such a cataclysmic event there doesn't seem to be much in the way of theories or speculation about it.
I think I remember someone connecting it to the Faceless Men, based off when Arya asks the Smiling Man why the first Faceless Men didn't give the gift to the slavers instead of the slaves, and he replied they did, but that that was a story for another time. Seems too large scale of an event to be their work alone though. I'm expecting it'll have something to do with the overall mythology of the series and the Ice/Fire conflict. I also wonder if the Doom and the later death of the Targaeryan dragons are connected.
I find the whole Bank of Braavos situation interesting. What power do they really have? Just money to buy mercenaries? Money to buy the Faceless to do their dirty work? Actual armies?
I like the setup for how big a role they will play in the last two books with how deep their debt with the crown is and Cersei's mismanagement of that debt.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is fascinated by the Iron Bank.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
What do we know about the Doom of Valyria? For such a cataclysmic event there doesn't seem to be much in the way of theories or speculation about it.
It seemed a bit like a Volcanic/Seismic event along the lines of Pompeii to me.
curlyfriski
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I find the whole Bank of Braavos situation interesting. What power do they really have? Just money to buy mercenaries? Money to buy the Faceless to do their dirty work? Actual armies?
I like the setup for how big a role they will play in the last two books with how deep their debt with the crown is and Cersei's mismanagement of that debt.
When a government reneges on its debts they can call in loans on a whole bunch of merchants from that city or country, which can wreck the economy and make powerful rich people upset, which is bad news for the rulers who rely on those powerful rich people. They did that in Westeros when Cersei refused to pay them. I'd say that's a better power than an army.
It seemed a bit like a Volcanic/Seismic event along the lines of Pompeii to me.
Yeah but was it a naturally occurring volcanic event or was it caused by some sort of supernatural event?
Braavos is essentially Venice correct?
Pretty much the Assassin's Creed 2 version of it.
Braavos is essentially Venice correct?
I pictured it similar to Venice but a bit colder and marsh-ier
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Who cares about Stannis and Dany, when will Jhalabar Xho reclaim his throne?
He will never returns to the Summer Isles. He'll just have to make do with the Iron Throne.
I pictured it similar to Venice but a bit colder and marsh-ier
Venice can be pretty cold in winter though.
KingHenrik30
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Who cares about Stannis and Dany, when will Jhalabar Xho reclaim his throne?
Winner comment.
He's my favorite tertiary character.
I disagree. I feel like Ned's dream ("Promise me Ned") is one of the biggest pieces of evidence, and you don't get that in the show obviously.
Personally I thought about it very much after watching the show, but it came very little to the front after I read the book afterwards.That's not true...at all.
Ned's constant reminder of his promise to Lyanna, his dream, and then there's this:
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