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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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"God's Beard!"
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Speaking of crackpot theories, I half believe the Syrio = Jaqen one. Mostly because the idea of Jaqen being caught and thrown into a dungeon in the first place for Arya to free him is so unbelievable to me.
Morrigan Stark
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lol @ that parody ^
GRRM didn't forget about Benjen, even if he did I'm sure he gets a million emails asking what happened to Benjen, lol.
Hawt. My boyfriend looks like this, minus the patch, lol. Euron is such a piece of shit though. I hope he's not too hot in the TV show, cause it will be harder to hate him. >_> (I keed, I keed... mostly)
Huh? GRRM didn't forget the Red Wedding... are you thinking of that silly Onion article? xD
GRRM didn't forget about Benjen, even if he did I'm sure he gets a million emails asking what happened to Benjen, lol.
Most of Euron art looks a bit pretty boy like
Hawt. My boyfriend looks like this, minus the patch, lol. Euron is such a piece of shit though. I hope he's not too hot in the TV show, cause it will be harder to hate him. >_> (I keed, I keed... mostly)
CrashBandicoot
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DrForester
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Rock's fall, everyone dies.
The End.
The End.
Someone have the picture of robbwind that was just posted? I missed it and now it's gone
edit found it:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/975210af4b0723ed8003b1b0938108cd/tumblr_mo3493r6WO1rdm691o1_1280.jpg
edit found it:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/975210af4b0723ed8003b1b0938108cd/tumblr_mo3493r6WO1rdm691o1_1280.jpg
I think Benjen is in the Land of Always Winter, either captured by the Others or hiding out there. I think if either Jon or Bran head up there they will meet him. I know it would be kind of a cliché but I wonder if the Others have a base or headquarters. I imagine they are kind of like a hive.
CrashBandicoot
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This is one of the things I'm most looking forward to with the coming books, seeing the history of the others and generally learning more about them. I really hope they aren't just "summoned" by one of the gods or something, maybe The Other that Melisandre seems to talk about, I would prefer them to have a real culture and background of their own.
I would really like for Bloodraven to be evil like Melisandre thinks he is and turn Bran to the dark side too, and the Children of the Forest looking for revenge against the Andals too. Maybe teaming up with The Others for some reason that I can't quite think of at the moment, common enemy?
Steelyuhas
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Odd that it looks like they tarred the head, that's just a production still though, it might end up looking a bit different in the show.
Agreed on the bold. That's one of the things that's really interesting about the Walkers, as the supernatural big bad in a story like this, you'd usually expect them to just be destruction machines, but they appear to be intelligent beings and I assume they have some form of society and goals for their actions. Hopefully we get to explore that.
That was the Night's King, which some people believe to be Coldhands.
Morrigan Stark
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Nooooo I don't want this. #TeamBloodRaven
That'd be strange, the CotF fought the Others in the war for the dawn. Pretty sure they hate the Others more than the humans... then again, maybe not? :S
cj_iwakura
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I pray the AFFC TV version nails the Sand Snakes. Awesome clique.
I hear this all the time. What is the argument for it happening?
edit: oh, I see that he does use the Nightfort as his seat of power for now. So that's one thing.
Stannis is kind of awesome so naturally we're expecting something terrible for him.
Can someone link me to this? I haven't read the books in a pretty long time but I don't understand how this can even be possible.
I think George has stated that the Others are supposed to be alien, inhuman, and maybe even beautiful/elegant. They probably operate on very different principles, it would be fascinating to see what their society would be like.
I don't think Bloodraven has to be evil. I also don't think George would go for a traditional evil wizard character, but I do think at the very least there is some catch to Bran's new power. It probably involves human sacrifice, the famous Jojen paste theory. If Bloodraven and Bran truly believe they are fighting to save the world then perhaps they could feel justified in engaging in a lot of questionable activity.
Interestingly enough, according to the wiki article, Old Nan hinted that the Night's King was a Stark of Winterfell named Bran. I don't remember that part of the book but I am sure someone can check.
So if Stannis is using the Nightfort, that means Selyse, Shireen, and Patchface are also likely going to be there at some point.
isn't benjen being coldhands a very common/popular theory though? am i missing something? idk
daario being any greyjoy is an awful theory. i give the cleganebowl a better chance of happening
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I almost think it's too late in the game to bring back Benjen in any other way but through Coldhands reveal. I was kind of expecting him to be with the Children of the Forest when Bran arrived, but I guess now.
Louis Cypher
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Guys guys
What if both Rhllor and the Others and the Children are evil?
Then Dany become fire evil, Jon ice evil, Bran, grass evil
What if both Rhllor and the Others and the Children are evil?
Then Dany become fire evil, Jon ice evil, Bran, grass evil
KuwabaraTheMan
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Coldhands can't be Benjen, because they say that Coldhands died a long time ago. Benjen would have only died a couple of years ago at most.
I definitely believe that Coldhands is the Night's King.
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#TeamAirbender
Supermanisdead
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I swear if Dany spends all this time in the slave cities and doesn't keep going east to all those creepy magic lands, I will be annoyed. I want to see Asshai. And I want someone to go to Valyria.
The story is becoming clear now. Dany will take out Jon and Bran since Fire is super effective against ice and grass, and then Euron will take out Dany because water is super effective against fire.
Euron Greyjoy is the Prince who was promised, the third head (Third Greyjoy born after Balon and Aeron). Azor Ahai reborn (after being exiled.)
Euron Greyjoy the one true king!
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I really don't like the show's portrayal of the Others. They're slow, goofy-looking, and decrepit, and not distinct enough from the wights. They're a bunch of ancient ice-geezer-liches.
Supermanisdead
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These Daario-is-secretly-someone-else theories are wack. Daario is just some loser and he needs to get dead soon.
Yeah it really hasn't been good. These creatures inspire zero emotion. It is not really a budget issue, just bad choices. It kind of kills the weight of that entire story arc because the White Walkers no longer make you feel dread. A lot of the choices made for the storyline in the North, particularly Jon and Bran's storyline, have been very questionable. I am not saying those stories have no good moments, they are just wildly inconsistent and veer away from the books way too often.
CrashBandicoot
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I've got the feeling they'll be cut down to maybe two or three. Eight seems really unnecessary to me, and it'd be even harder to follow in the show, and the kids don't really do anything. They'll probably end up with the strong one, the pretty one with the poisons and the one in Oldtown. See, I can't even remember their names its so confusing.
Basileus777
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I'm not sure you need any sand snakes. Oberyn, Arienne, Doran, and Quentyn are probably the only Dornish characters they really need. The showrunners have already said they don't want to expand the cast further, and Dorne is an easy area to make cuts on. If I were them, I'd consider having Arienne accompany Oberyn to King's Landing next season, it'd be an easy way to introduce her character without having to create new sets. There are so many locations in AFFC/ADWD that they really need to look for ways to cut down on those. Maybe cut out the Oldtown plotline, I'm not sure it makes sense to send Sam there in the show.
CrashBandicoot
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All depends on where that plotline is going with Sam, maybe there's some important shit going on in the next book. It'd also be really, really easy to use all these Grand Maesters to just give the viewers loads of information on the lore of Westeros that they don't know, and tell them more about dragons or the horns or whatevz
Basileus777
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It wouldn't be worth building a bunch of new sets for that. There are already plenty of ways for them to give exposition.
Louis Cypher
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Yeah others are supposed to be ice elves
Basileus777
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He can be a guard standing around that has a few lines. Without the POV structure he isn't much more than scenery.
I think Dany will have the ships she needs after the coming battle. It's mentioned how she's surrounded by enemy ships in all sides isn't it? I'm thinking she will find a way to get thier fleet, with Victrarions help.
Edit. I think via Sam and Jon we will find out about the others. Jon will go on a quest where he will stumble across the Others and thier armies, and Sam will research more into them and discover an ancient prophecy that tells of thier rising, which happens to be imminent.
Edit. I think via Sam and Jon we will find out about the others. Jon will go on a quest where he will stumble across the Others and thier armies, and Sam will research more into them and discover an ancient prophecy that tells of thier rising, which happens to be imminent.
Basileus777
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It's likely that this is one of the Ironborn's main purposes in the story, to get Dany those ships.
Basileus777
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It hasn't even been two years yet, don't start getting impatient now.
Supermanisdead
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As long as they cast dreamboat ~*~*~*~*~*DaRkStAr*~*~*~*~*~* I'll be fine.
talisayNon
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So I did look back at the history of the 7 kingdoms and come to the conclusion that there really is no legitimate claim unless it's a Targaryen. So either Aegon or Danaerys should get it. So I guess Jon Snow is The "Prince that was promised"? Aegon would be too obvious right?
The Baratheons are descendants of the Targ so their entire bloodline has a legitimate claim. Considering no DNA testing exists this includes Tommen and Myrcella.
Basileus777
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The Children of the Forest have the best claim.
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