talisayNon
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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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20 dollar bet right now
DrForester
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No bet, but I still don't think so. We haven't heard anything about the wedding this episode so far.
Unless they're going to kill him before the wedding...
Which means we don't get the jousters...
Which means we don't get the reveal about Jeoffrey and the knife.
Unless they're going to kill him before the wedding...
Which means we don't get the jousters...
Which means we don't get the reveal about Jeoffrey and the knife.
talisayNon
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derp
DrForester
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NO STONEHEART! HUZZAH!
talisayNon
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terrible, does Asha even give a shit about her brother? Whatte hell was that?
DrForester
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I always got the impression Asha loved her brother. She didn't think he'd make a good captain or king, but hell if she's going to let some bastard shit torture him.
endlessflood
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One thing I'd really like to see in TWOW is Stoneheart vs Petyr Baelish. Cat is Littlefinger's kryptonite I think, so it will be interesting if Stoneheart finds out about his duplicity.
maybe they'll give her a (somewhat minor) new plot. most likely they'll push up the Sons of Harpy plot
DrForester
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She still has to take Mereen.
Argh I confused both cities.
yeah but i dont see how they can stretch that, iirc they take mereen just as boringly as yunkai
Basileus777
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They should cut out Mereen and have her stay in Yunkai. I don't see the point in having her take yet another slaver city other than to give Dany something to do. The audience won't care. Move her story along so she doesn't stay in Essos for 3 more seasons.
It's be interesting to see what they do with next season considering there's only about a 1/3 of ASOS left, they can't really stretch that out for 10 episodes. It looks like we're getting Asha/Yara's ADWD plotline next season, I wonder what else will be brought forward.
It's be interesting to see what they do with next season considering there's only about a 1/3 of ASOS left, they can't really stretch that out for 10 episodes. It looks like we're getting Asha/Yara's ADWD plotline next season, I wonder what else will be brought forward.
DrForester
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Truly capturing the character arc perfectly.
cj_iwakura
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Yep. Lackluster finale(whoops), but great setup for everything else. Loved Arya's scene.
LegendofJoe
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Damn it all I want to read Winds of Winter some time in the near future. May the cold, harsh winds of Winter be at your back George whenever you decide to stop working for weeks at a time to attend your ego stroking conventions.
DrForester
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Ending a season with Jon full of holes, and his survival unknown.
How daring.
How daring.
Heh. I didn't even think of that.
timetokill
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So what is Dany going to do next season? Chill in Yunkai, realize they're running out of food, then take the army to Meereen, the city coming over the horizon in the finale?
God I hate her storyline.
God I hate her storyline.
I am not sure what to feel about that prophecy. I kind of expect George to try and make us look at prophecies in a different way or perhaps ignore them altogether. I don't believe that George will have some kind of climactic final battle with Jon waving a magic sword around.
If the story is true however and Jon needs to stab his sword into someone I don't think it would be Dany. Is there really enough space in these two books for him to meet her and fall in love with her and then decide to stab her and kill the Others? The story has always struck me as a bit misogynistic and barbaric if interpreted literally. I don't know if George would insist upon the sacrifice having to be a female that Jon may like. I think the bigger idea behind it is that Azor Ahai sacrificed someone he loved. The only person who Jon loves that is close by is Bran. Or perhaps the meaning of the story is that the sword can only be awakened when Azor Ahai gives up something to which he is attached. Could Jon develop some kind of attachment to Melisandre? I could see it happening if he is dependent on her magic to survive.
Basileus777
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I can't look at GRRM's prophecies with anything but contempt after Maggie the Frog. I hope they are all bullshit.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Okay, someone explain to me why Maggie the Frog inspires such rage. It's not like she's Dornish or Ironborn.
curlyfriski
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yeah I don't get it either
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Probably Ghost, but I'd be a lot happier with a dead Dany.
CitizenVectron
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I also don't get it. Why the hate? Can anyone explain?
Buckethead
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She still has to get fingerblasted by the chick from Misfits.
For me I think that was the best episode I have seen of this show even though Stannis should be cooler.
Also lol at the person who mentioned them leaving Jon with a bunch of open holes at the end of a season, hadn't even thought of that or put that together.
The only thing I disliked from the episode was the whole Asha/Yara going to Dreafort, sure the music was exciting but unless they make major changes we know its not going anywhere.
Also I thought the music in this episode was fantastic.
Also lol at the person who mentioned them leaving Jon with a bunch of open holes at the end of a season, hadn't even thought of that or put that together.
The only thing I disliked from the episode was the whole Asha/Yara going to Dreafort, sure the music was exciting but unless they make major changes we know its not going anywhere.
Also I thought the music in this episode was fantastic.
Buckethead
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Speaking of Jon, it seems they focused quite obviously on the whole warging thing.
Pity they seem to be dropping the prologues.
Pity they seem to be dropping the prologues.
CrashBandicoot
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Just saw a great valonqar theory, Sandor Clegane. It would make sense from Bran's dream in the first book that the Hound is the Faith's champion in Cersei's trial, and after killing Gregorstein... I dunno, turns on Cersei? Or maybe he's choking the life from her metaphorically by effectively sentencing her to lifetime imprisonment (assuming that she wouldn't be executed?).
Trojita
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There is always Ygritte dying as well.
Yeah, I'm wondering where they're going with that. At first I was thinking that it was just a plot device to get her back out to the North (since obviously she isn't holding a castle now) so that she could run into Stannis and get captured.
But then I remembered the King's Moot hasn't happened so it should be too early for her to be captured. But maybe the show will skip that and we're getting confirmation that the whole Ironborn plot was as irrelevant to the overall story like I always thought.
On that note, I was disappointed that Balon didn't die in this episode. I think it would have been a great way to give non-readers an extra bit of hope that Joffrey will be dead soon if 2 of the 3 named usurpers were dead at the end of this season. It would have given them something to look forward to in Season 4.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Ahahahaha, well hopefully the lesson was learned.
Last Hearth
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That's hilarious.
Better Dany than Ghost, which is the popular alternative among theorists.
The other thing you're overlooking is that Azor Ahai was probably an asshole badguy, since R'hllor and everything around him is at best unsettling.
Did she also learn Ramsay commanded Theon to do the foreplay? No? Now that would have been hilarious...
Dude ( if he even existed that is ) allegedly stabbed his wife without batting an eye. Pretty nasty when you think about it.
Basileus777
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It's said he did it with "a heavy heart," I'm not sure where you are getting that he did it without batting an eye,
He forged his sword for a hundred days with "a heavy heart", this is true. But when it came down to it, he stabbed her rather quickly, while the iron was still hot, hence why I said without batting an eye. I didn't mean to say he didn't care, just you know, Azor Ahai choose some prophesy and sword over his wife. I get that it is a story about sacrifice. Doesn't make it any less unsettling that he killed his wife, whether it was with heavy heart or not.
Basileus777
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The tone of that story isn't implying he's a villain though, just a hero making a grave sacrifice to stop the darkness. He could end up being a terrible person, but I don't see that story supporting it.
Oh, I don't think he is a villain, nor is Melisandre. I see them as products of a religion, with all its quirks. They will be neither good or evil in the context of the story. Still, I think that religion and their prophecies is a farce.
I was mostly jesting. I agree that the Swamps route looks unfeasible.
From no book readers thread
CrashBandicoot
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Finished another read through A Storm of Swords for probably my fourth time. For all the crazy shit that goes down in that book I think my favorite single moment is the last Sansa chapter where she makes a snow castle Wintefell. So beautifully written and always makes me tear up. Of course it is immediately ruined by Robert being a crazy kid and Littlefinger creeping on Sansa, but still.
Probably going to try that combined AFFC/ADWD reading order soon. I've heard a lot of good things.
Probably going to try that combined AFFC/ADWD reading order soon. I've heard a lot of good things.
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