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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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Same here. And it was fantastic.
A Human Becoming
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None of the five officially released have serious spoilers. They're pretty much just cut chapters from ADWD instead of being newly written material.
EDIT: Well, even if the Arianna chapter was cut, it feels separate compared to the other four.
EDIT: Well, even if the Arianna chapter was cut, it feels separate compared to the other four.
The other POVs are not actively involved in the battles of Winterfell and Mereen. For me those two events are what separates ADWD and TWOW. You could argue Tyrion II I suppose.
PhoenixDark
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Arianne II has a pretty noteworthy spoiler though:
Aegon captures Storm's End, and a Tyrell force (likely led by Randyl Tarly) has left King's Landing to deal with it. Martin has said he's probably going to show the battle; I wouldn't be surprised if the prologue chapter shows it, or an early Connington chapter
Basileus777
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Even if these aren't major spoilers, I don't want to pick up the book and feel like I've already read a 1/4 of it. That already happened with AFFC and ADWD.
Incandenza
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Fun fact: the very first ASoIaF chapter I ever read was the Tyrion I sample chapter from ADWD. By the time I got around to reading the series I had forgotten all about it (good thing too, considering how much it spoils), but then when I read Dance I immediately was like, "Woah, I remember this!"
A Human Becoming
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I shouldn't have read that. I mixed I and II up, oh well. Yeah, that one is noteworthy. I was just talking about the first five.
New Winds chapter coming soon:
http://grrm.livejournal.com/361577.html
The tone of his post seems like he's in good spirits. TWOW to release this year!!
http://grrm.livejournal.com/361577.html
The tone of his post seems like he's in good spirits. TWOW to release this year!!
A Human Becoming
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Interesting this isn't just a re-posting of the chapter from the smartphone app.
Ah, it's the Arianne chapter he read at a con.
PhoenixDark
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"Mercy"
Arya?
Arya?
A Human Becoming
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He said Arianne in the journal.
EDIT: I misread. Maybe it will be a different POV.
He said he was taking down Arianne, not that it is her.
Arya is likely, if she is still in training mode. Anyone but Damphair, George!!
Brienne/Jaime or Theon/Asha make sense if the title is 'Mercy' as well, but I doubt those cliffhangers would be spoiled
You Know Nothing
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Please be an Arya chapter for the love of the gods old and new.
Pollux
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Obviously I hope it's Sansa, mainly because I wanna what this "maybe/maybe not controversial chapter" is, but I don't think we'll get any sample chapters from her.
I'd be really happy with Arya, too, and I can see a chapter from her being called that.
He says he wrote the chapter years ago before any sample chapters we've seen so far, and that it's been changed a lot since he first wrote it. Hmm
edit: and apparently someone trustworthy on the westeros forums confirmed that the chapter will answer a question fans have been wanting the answer to since 2011. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I'd be really happy with Arya, too, and I can see a chapter from her being called that.
He says he wrote the chapter years ago before any sample chapters we've seen so far, and that it's been changed a lot since he first wrote it. Hmm
edit: and apparently someone trustworthy on the westeros forums confirmed that the chapter will answer a question fans have been wanting the answer to since 2011. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I don't want it to be an Arya chapter. If it is, I'll be tempted to read it, and I want to remain as unspoiled as possible when it comes to my favorite little assassin-in-training.
PhoenixDark
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We know he wrote an Arya and Sansa chapter years ago, and they were removed. Same applies to the Damphair chapter he has tried to read at cons for years only to have fans select something else lol.
Ran said the "controversy" was moreso about character development than something insane or plot driven, imo
Supermanisdead
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I'm hoping for a Sam chapter and if not, Arya or Sansa.
That would be beyond Dany's planned ADWD arc though, no? And correct me if I'm wrong, but GRRM is yet to release a completely fresh TWOW chapter?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Darkstar chapter please.
A Human Becoming
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I bet it will be either Sansa, Arya, Arianne or Aeron. They each had chapters cut from ADWD. Good chance for Arianne if he's replacing her chapter on his website, which is what I originally incorrectly read in his blog post. Doesn't mean it still isn't happening.
Cornballer
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From a few days ago.
Just remember to please spoiler tag discussion.
Thanks, and got it.
You Know Nothing
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Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my goddskljgksgsjfsa.
I'll read it when I control my heavy breathing.
curlyfriski
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Well that was disturbing.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Oh my god oh my god oh my god
The Artful Dodger
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Just read it. Guess I have to read the other chapter previews now...
You Know Nothing
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I haven't finished yet. But oh my god, I love where this is going right now.
Awesome read. With this and the Tyrion chapter release on the app I am realizing how much I miss Martin's prose and the way he writes the banter. I swear, I'll eat the book whole in a day once it comes out.
And so Arya's hit-list grows shorter. Still, pretty bizarre sexual content in that chapter, lol.
bodyofanamerican
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I am trying SO hard not to freak out at my desk at work right now.
That was SO. GOOD.
That was SO. GOOD.
You Know Nothing
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Wow, that was amazing.
I NEED MORE.
I NEED MORE.
Morrigan Stark
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OMFG
That was
Holy shit.
I was waiting with baited breath for the end of the chapter, and it fucking delivered. I am giddy as hell. And kind of disturbed too. But damn that payoff was gold.
I lost it at "Think so?". My boyfriend looked at me funny haha.
ARYAAAAAAAAAAAAA <3
I lost it at "Think so?". My boyfriend looked at me funny haha.
ARYAAAAAAAAAAAAA <3
Morrigan Stark
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Yeah. I think he's telling us that Arya is growing up a bit. She's at the cusp of puberty, so it's unavoidable.
Was that kiss by Raff her first kiss? If so, poor Arya, lol. Still, worth it.
"Think so?"
So good.
Was that kiss by Raff her first kiss? If so, poor Arya, lol. Still, worth it.
"Think so?"
So good.
Holy shit holy shit holy shit.
That might be one of my top ten favourite chapters in the series.
That might be one of my top ten favourite chapters in the series.
I didn't get what the play was about until the dwarf started practising his lines about his family being made of gold, probably should have got it from the fat king who dies after fighting a demonic boar really.
Written by a Forel? Hmm.
Had to check who had a chicken sigil, kind of forgot about that guy.
When you realise it's Raff...
When she gets him to say "You need to carry me"...
Is the bit where Yoren threatens to nick that artery on a Gold Cloak in the show in the books as well? I can't find it if it is, but that would be awesome if he's the one who taught her to do that. In fact seeing as D&D would have possibly seen that chapter by then I wouldn't be surprised if that scene was added especially for this.
Written by a Forel? Hmm.
Had to check who had a chicken sigil, kind of forgot about that guy.
When you realise it's Raff...
When she gets him to say "You need to carry me"...
Is the bit where Yoren threatens to nick that artery on a Gold Cloak in the show in the books as well? I can't find it if it is, but that would be awesome if he's the one who taught her to do that. In fact seeing as D&D would have possibly seen that chapter by then I wouldn't be surprised if that scene was added especially for this.
Morrigan Stark
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Yeah, the Forel bit made me go "hmmmm". A historic Forel, ancestor to Syrio, or a living relative? Now I want to know.
Rooster sigil is House Swyft. Blue rooster on yellow background. link to image.
When "Mercy" said he was handsome, I tried to think of who was left on her list, and immediately thought of Raff. Awesome. Who's left now? She sorta removed the Hound from her list, and she probably doesn't know Gregor's fate, so: Cersei, the Mountain, Ser Ilyn Payne, Ser Meryn Trant, Dunsen?
Rooster sigil is House Swyft. Blue rooster on yellow background. link to image.
When "Mercy" said he was handsome, I tried to think of who was left on her list, and immediately thought of Raff. Awesome. Who's left now? She sorta removed the Hound from her list, and she probably doesn't know Gregor's fate, so: Cersei, the Mountain, Ser Ilyn Payne, Ser Meryn Trant, Dunsen?
Edit: sorry, can't seem to really spoiler-tag URLs? Anyway, I obfuscated as much as I could.
Zoso Achilles
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Sample chapter spoilers:
So do we know specifically who this envoy is, and who this "Black Pearl" woman is?
The only person it could be is Harys Swyft.
You Know Nothing
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From the description, sounds like Ser Harys. Kevan's father-in-law. I believe he is currently the master of coin.
Zoso Achilles
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Cool, thanks. I wonder if I should do a second re-read of the series before tWoW, starting to lose track of characters again.
The Black Pearl is a courtesan from Braavos IIRC. She's descended from the first Black Pearl, who incidentally was one of the Great Bastards, legitimised bastard daughter of Aegon IV The Unworthy and sister to Bloodraven, Daemon Blackfyre, Bittersteel and King Dareon. So this lady has some Targ blood. She buys some cockles off Arya in AFFC.
Yeah the Westerosi envoy is Harys Swyft, Kevan Lannister's father in law. He was briefly Hand of the King in AFFC, now Lord Treasurer, and recently was sent by Kevan to treat with the Iron Bank. Seeing as they're off negotiating with Stannis I doubt that will go well for him.
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