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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
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So who do people actually want to be in power in Westeros at the end.
BlueTsunami
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So we can fully expect Beastiality in Winds of Winter?
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In power meaning the throne or just successful? I'd want a real stark leading the north and I don't really know who would be in power in kings landing I wouldn't mind anyone with a decent hand like tyrion or varys. I'd also like Sansa to take over the Vale she wouldn't be a good leader in the north or a queen but the Vale seems good for her.ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
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The people will never be hungry... They'll be eating their own fingers.catfish said:
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
I did like the idea of Tommen with Kevan helping him rule, but alas. I'm not really sure who I want, they all kind of suck. I guess if I had to pick one I'll go for the choice no one else will have, Sansa. I think by the time Littlefinger's done with her she'll know what's up, but because her parents raised her right she'll be a decent person and able to rule.
I'll tell you who I don't want on there. I don't want Jon, he's too cliche. And I definitely don't want Dany, she's been the most obvious one since the beginning, and she sucks.
No, she doesn't. Just because she doesn't drop lady-boys out of ships and just because she, SHOCKER, has some teen-girl feelings/problems doesn't make her a sucky character. :| She's proven to be resourceful in many situations and a just ruler. She went on trying to solve Meereen's problems in the wrong way, but that hardly makes her suck as a character.Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
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King Jamie and Queen Brienne.ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
OK, I've been avoiding this thread, but I just finished ADWD last night. So, what's the consensus on the book? Personally, I'm really disappointed. So much of the book just felt like pointless filler to me, especially Tyrion, most of Jon, and a lot of Dany. I got the sense that Martin has no real idea where this series is going, and he just decided to use this book as a transition for the next. We've been waiting years for this, and to have to wait even more years for SOME climax is really disheartening. I mean, the way he complained all these years, I would have thought something big was happening in this book, but I think he decided to avoid the "knot" completely in this book, by just having nothing conclusive happen.
Now, don't get me wrong, it felt at points like the best written book in the series, with a tremendous amount of polish, and Theon's perspectives are just amazing. Unfortunately, however, I feel like this book is the weakest in the series, and that we waited all these years for nothing.
Now, don't get me wrong, it felt at points like the best written book in the series, with a tremendous amount of polish, and Theon's perspectives are just amazing. Unfortunately, however, I feel like this book is the weakest in the series, and that we waited all these years for nothing.
The fan-service ending would be Jon and Dany ruling, with Tyrion as King's Hand and Arya as head of the Kingsguard, Varys back in his old position.
The real ending won't be quite that neat.
There's no way both Jon and Dany are alive at the end of the saga -- and since GRRM already blew his "kill Jon" load, I think Dany dies sometime during the last book, presumably after she stupidly lets someone else control Drogon.
I could see Jon ruling, but a harder Jon, one who's been changed irrevocably. You thought his execution of Slynt was hardcore? Wait till he orders the deaths of Tommen and Ser Pounce, and doesn't even bother to swing the sword himself.
The one character I most hope for having a happy ending is Arya, but somehow I don't see it happening. Just don't let a Stark kill her while she's wearing a disguised face.
The real ending won't be quite that neat.
There's no way both Jon and Dany are alive at the end of the saga -- and since GRRM already blew his "kill Jon" load, I think Dany dies sometime during the last book, presumably after she stupidly lets someone else control Drogon.
I could see Jon ruling, but a harder Jon, one who's been changed irrevocably. You thought his execution of Slynt was hardcore? Wait till he orders the deaths of Tommen and Ser Pounce, and doesn't even bother to swing the sword himself.
The one character I most hope for having a happy ending is Arya, but somehow I don't see it happening. Just don't let a Stark kill her while she's wearing a disguised face.
SoulPlaya said:
As far as I'm concerned, the Arya love comes from a perfect combination of endearing dramatic irony (we know a lot, lot more than her about life in general and what's going on in Westeros in general) and sheer moments of brilliance/courage ("I can't believe she thought of that/did that!"). She's both innocent and cunning; goodhearted and brutal. Loved her DwD chapters.
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SoulPlaya said:
i don't get the love for her either. She seems like a fairly stock standard fantasy character and thus far she's only had marginal plot impact.
Alternatively, I'm really interested to see what happens with Sansa. Mainly whether she starts to act independently from littlefinger or whether she continues to be a pawn.
I guess to me, she just hasn't done anything. There's a lot of mystery there, and I would normally give Martin the benefit of the doubt, but after this book, I don't think he knows what to do with her. I don't really find her arc all that compelling. Every perspective of hers seems to be the same thing.Sotha Sil said:
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SoulPlaya said:
I'm definitely interested in what Sansa is up to now, but I mostly hated her until she arrived at the Eyrie.
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The best thing with Arya was Jaquen. It's been pretty stale for me since.SoulPlaya said:
ZephyrFate
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And yet this same rhetoric is nothing more than hyperbole. ASOIAF is nowhere close to WoT in going out of control.i_am_ben said:
SoulPlaya said:
Arya's POV gave us the Brotherhood Without Banners
It gave us the reality of the war in the Riverlands
It gave us Braavos and the Faceless Men
Sansa's POV has really given us very little - just a little more insight into Littlefinger's plots in her last few chapters. Almost all of her chapters in the first 3 books overlap with other characters.
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I second this.
That was a while ago, and I don't find too many things interesting about the Faceless Men. It just seems to me to be something Martin created to have Arya spent her time with, until he can figure out what to do with her. It's been essentially the same chapter over and over again with her, since she's been with them.tokkun said:
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Interesting that in this video he is asked if you can warg into a dragon and he giggles and says "we'll see".
God.
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God.
Damn.
ZephyrFate
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Nooooo don't let this become The Bad Thread v. GAF
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bengraven said:
He also winked lol. Bran warging an ice dragon would be boss
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A SomethingAwful thread that lasted for ages where people made the worst, most vile, disgusting pejoratives towards GRRM, the novels, et. al. Basically where yacobod gets a lot of his shtick about GRRM writing too many Wild Cards novels and watching too much footballSoulPlaya said:
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On top of that, there was absolutely disgusting fanfiction people wrote about various characters fucking each other in the most disgusting ways. You come out of that thread completely disturbed.SoulPlaya said:
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PhoenixDark said:
It's also cool to see that he also hated Joffrey. "It was fun to kill that little shit".
ZephyrFate said:
Yeah, they're on thread 5 I believe...and this time the hammer fell and the admins are like "listen, talk about the books, don't shit this up, when time goes by and the next book isn't on the horizon we'll let you be immature again". Basically it was a thread for those people who were being driven nuts by the wait. Sometimes someone just simply said "rape" or "Lemoncakes" or "absolute fucker" or posted a pic of GRRM's face pasted over a gay bear who was fucking another hairy man. Sometimes all of the above. The fan fic stuff they wrote was brilliant at times, though main horrific.
Before this, it was basically the worst thread on the planet, though if you look at that thread you'll point fingers at me and go "um.."
Yes, you'll see my name in the last few threads there. I have no shame.
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No, duck, we're far far from the bad thread. Take the worst trolls and shit posters that GAF has ever had and put them in one place and that's the Bad Thread. Hell, the Bad Thread was basically worse than OA.
They commented on GRRM's livejournal after posting a 1x1x1 pixel picture that got past Ty, then changed the pic at the host to become this, for example.
They commented on GRRM's livejournal after posting a 1x1x1 pixel picture that got past Ty, then changed the pic at the host to become this, for example.
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