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Absolute firsts in video games
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Eco (Atari ST, 1988) might be the first game in which the player character can breed, i.e., produce variable offspring depending on its mate.
Edit: also, Megami Tensei (NES, 1987) appears to be the first game in which the player can recruit monsters. However, I'm not going to put either of these on the list yet, as they seem like the kinds of examples that would have fuzzier proto-examples. Actually, recruitable NPCs and recruitable enemies are both categories that I should look into more.
Another edit: now that I think about it, Galaga (arcade, 1981) might qualify for first recruitable enemy with its double firepower mechanic. But it's also a fuzzy example, because you have to let the enemies capture your fighter, and then recapture it from them, so it feels more like reclaiming your guy than controlling an enemy.
Edit: also, Megami Tensei (NES, 1987) appears to be the first game in which the player can recruit monsters. However, I'm not going to put either of these on the list yet, as they seem like the kinds of examples that would have fuzzier proto-examples. Actually, recruitable NPCs and recruitable enemies are both categories that I should look into more.
Another edit: now that I think about it, Galaga (arcade, 1981) might qualify for first recruitable enemy with its double firepower mechanic. But it's also a fuzzy example, because you have to let the enemies capture your fighter, and then recapture it from them, so it feels more like reclaiming your guy than controlling an enemy.
Don Juan (Amstrad CPC, 1984) appears to be the first game in which the player can go on dates. Might be considered the first dating sim, then.
There are several Japanese erotic games before then, but they all seem to be either straight-up sex simulators or puzzle games with nudity.
There are several Japanese erotic games before then, but they all seem to be either straight-up sex simulators or puzzle games with nudity.
Are there any games preceding Stunt Island (PC, 1992) that have an in-game gameplay recording feature?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunt_Island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunt_Island
I'm looking into the first "Collector's Edition" for a video game. Quake 3 (PC, 1999) may have been the first with its Limited Edition, but it's not clear if that was preorder-only, and the only difference is that it came in a tin box.
Diablo 2 (PC, 2000) appears to be the first Collector's Edition in the form we know now, with a bunch of extras like a soundtrack CD and artbook for those who preordered. I'm not talking about separate bonus T-shirts or whatever here, since those have been around for a long time; I'm talking a separate boxed edition intended for preorders.
Diablo 2 (PC, 2000) appears to be the first Collector's Edition in the form we know now, with a bunch of extras like a soundtrack CD and artbook for those who preordered. I'm not talking about separate bonus T-shirts or whatever here, since those have been around for a long time; I'm talking a separate boxed edition intended for preorders.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
That's a good line to look at... the first one in Japan could have been anything, though.
Was Dragster (Atari 2600, 1980) the first game with splitscreen multiplayer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cym2RvDc3ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cym2RvDc3ck
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darkwing-buck
Member
Was RE4's over the shoulder view a first in a third person shooter?
AlteredForms
Banned
Gentlemen, you seem to forget that which is important.
Outlawz sniper scope. Now we can thank campers for shooting us from miles away.
Outlawz sniper scope. Now we can thank campers for shooting us from miles away.
Could be either Dead Angle or Dynamite Duke, depending on how you define "over-the-shoulder view" and "third person shooter".
Nice. Adding these.
Also, Space Harrier (arcade, 1985) might be considered the first third-person shooter, period, though it would be a proto-example.
Edit: behind-the-back shooters go as far back as Nintendo's Radar Scope (arcade, 1979), and had some intermediate development with Space Harrier (arcade, 1985), Silpheed (PC-88), and the base levels in Contra (arcade, 1987), before reaching their fully-developed form in Devastators (arcade, 1988).
There are two games that have a claim to the modern snapping-to-cover system: Time Crisis (arcade, 1995) and Winback (N64, 1999).
Time Crisis might not count because it's a rail shooter and it's an inverse cover system (i.e., you press the pedal to get out of cover, not into it), but Winback has more or less the same system that modern third-person shooters use.
Time Crisis might not count because it's a rail shooter and it's an inverse cover system (i.e., you press the pedal to get out of cover, not into it), but Winback has more or less the same system that modern third-person shooters use.
Is Ultima Underworld (PC, 1992) the first game with first-person jumping?
Edit: also, I think Midwinter (Atari ST, 1989) might be the first polygonal AND the first first-person game in which the player can find and commandeer vehicles in the environment [snowmobiles, cable cars, hang gliders].
Edit: also, I think Midwinter (Atari ST, 1989) might be the first polygonal AND the first first-person game in which the player can find and commandeer vehicles in the environment [snowmobiles, cable cars, hang gliders].
darkwing-buck
Member
Woah, nice finds!
TheRedSnifit
Member
I'm pretty sure that Ultima Underworld was the first first-person game that allowed diagonal tiles. I also think that System Shock was the first FPS (or 3D game in general) with leaning, lying prone, climbing, recoil, and 3D, destructable objects (I'm also pretty sure that it's the only game ever to use both 3D objects and sprites).
Also, what kind of cover system did Maze Wars have?
Also, what kind of cover system did Maze Wars have?
Update to "first licensed athlete" category: Pele's Soccer (Atari 2600, 1980) appears to be both the first sports game featuring a real athlete and the first game of any kind carrying a celebrity endorsement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelé's_Soccer
Edit:
The simplest kind: getting out of view of your opponent. If "cover" is defined specifically as a barrier used to block projectiles, then the first is Gun Fight (arcade, 1975).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelé's_Soccer
Edit:
The simplest kind: getting out of view of your opponent. If "cover" is defined specifically as a barrier used to block projectiles, then the first is Gun Fight (arcade, 1975).
Update to "vehicle as weapon" category: Destruction Derby (arcade, 1975) preceded Death Race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uuV89IQ5w0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uuV89IQ5w0
Was there anything with 3D terrain destruction/modeling before Magic Carpet (1994)? It impresses me even compared to today's games -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yqnOhhwhqU&t=1m16s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yqnOhhwhqU&t=1m16s
Art of Fighting also appears to be the first game with a desperation attack.
Edit: I've been trying to avoid genre-specific categories (i.e., "the first time an enemy dolphin appeared in a JRPG" or stuff like that), but I'll make an exception with super moves, as "moves" carry a different connotation in a fighting game context from, say, a really good secret sword in an RPG.
Oof, too bad about the parenthetical. I, Robot had that feature in 1983.
I have no idea why you would believe this.
MrCunningham
Member
Gentlemen, you seem to forget that which is important.
Outlawz sniper scope. Now we can thank campers for shooting us from miles away.
This is a pretty good find, and it was released two months before MDK was released.
Outlaws: March 1997 (PC)
MDK: May 1997 (PC)
Though watching this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKeEE5esh4Y, Outlaws doesn't seem to have an adjustable scope, but it still has one never the less.
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ichtyander
Member
Still looking into the jumping, Dark Side (1988) had a jetpack so there's that kind of vertical movement in the game, but it's not the same thing.
As for controllable vehicles, there's The Colony (1987 or 1988) for the Macintosh. It's one of the earliest examples of realtime first person adventure/puzzle game with 3D graphics. The interesting thing is that there's a forklift vehicle you can enter and drive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1XENlUUOhA&feature=player_detailpage#t=362
Now that I think about it, Mercenary (1985) had the drivable land and air vehicles in a realtime 3D environment, just not with filled, shaded polygons.
Btw, The Colony might have a lot of firsts like storytelling told through logs, it was very exploration oriented, it had a main mission (power up your crashed ship and stop an evil alien race) but it also had completely optional sidequests, realtime top view mini map and maybe has the first flushable toilet in a first person game.
The tvtropes entry has a lot of details about possible firsts, like having a ripped sample from 2001: A Space Odyssey or having a holiday mode (On December 25, the potted plants become Christmas trees) .Dr Zhivago
Member
Midwinter on the ST had a sniper scope in 1989:
Keen wasn't even the first shareware game /by Apogee/.
Chauncy Talon
Member
Chrono Trigger was the first to...
have the protagonist die before the halfway point.
TitusGroan
Banned
I am absolutely certain that the original Splinter Cell predated the over the shoulder view by three years or so. It was a stealth game rather than a pure TPS, sure, but pulling your gun didn't just make the view go over-the-shouler, the controls were almost identical to how TPS games play now (character slows down, left thumbstick to move and strafe, right stick to aim) as opposed to RE4's slightly more unique tank controls.
It also used cover in a similar way to how games like Gears would later implement it, with Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory having cover-to-cover prompts and blindfire prompts even.
According to Giantbomb
Over-the-shoulder aiming was first brought to prominence by its use in Capcom's Resident Evil 4, which demonstrated this perspective at E3 2003, but was delayed and re-worked, eventually releasing in 2005 to considerable acclaim
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Not quite...
The protagonist of Doom (1993) also dies, at the end of the first chapter. You continue playing as him in the next chapters though, except you're literally in Hell.
kamikazekoala
Member
Well, it is way earlier. Batman Forever for the SNES had a collector's edition already and it was an retailer exclusive one too (Woolsworth). So maybe this was the first exclusive retailer collector's edition too?
And Street Fighter II Turbo had one too.
Hmz, did this game come before or after Batman Forever?
Or maybe it was the Fire Emblem one that was Japan-exclusive?
Man, I know one thing. There were still collector's edition before the year 2000 at least.
nssdigitalchumps
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nssdigitalchumps
Member
First home console = Ralph Baer's Brown Box (1966), which was also produced the first light gun for a home console.
EDIT: On the list already! My bad.
EDIT: On the list already! My bad.
First home console = Ralph Baer's Brown Box (1966), which was also produced the first light gun for a home console.
It's in the OP, there's a list there with all the confirmed "firsts" so far, give it a read
AlteredForms
Banned
Midwinter on the ST had a sniper scope in 1989:
It would be helpful to quote my post and then submit your response. As for your submission, I think this is a viable answer. On a different note, it's made by the same person who did Lords Of Midnight.
nssdigitalchumps
Member
It's in the OP, there's a list there with all the confirmed "firsts" so far, give it a read
Thank you. I'm an idiot.
TheRedSnifit
Member
"Brought to prominence".
RE4 was probably the first 3D game to have the camera *permanently* locked over the shoulder (as opposed to behind the back, like Star Wars Battlefront). I'm pretty sure that MGS and a few other games had the camera snap over the shoulder when aiming.
MrCunningham
Member
Keen was the first legitimate 2D side scroller on the MS-DOS/ IBM-PC platform, and it was the biggest selling shareware game of 1990, but those things don't really mean anything out side of PC gaming.
Well, it is way earlier. Batman Forever for the SNES had a collector's edition already and it was an retailer exclusive one too (Woolsworth). So maybe this was the first exclusive retailer collector's edition too?
And Street Fighter II Turbo had one too.
Hmz, did this game come before or after Batman Forever?
Or maybe it was the Fire Emblem one that was Japan-exclusive?
Man, I know one thing. There were still collector's edition before the year 2000 at least.
Damn, nice. Updating.